The Exchange | 115.7m | 31fl, 13fl | 400,000sqft. | Completed - Page 48

EdinVan · #**941** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 1:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

Do you or anyone have a scan of that sales brochure? Or is there any chance something taller, maybe just as tall or even taller than The Exchange could be built there?

It appears that the sales brochure is not on the website anymore. Last I checked was two weeks ago and it was still up. Perhaps the property has now been sold?

Anyway, if you type the following into Google, you should be able to view the cached PDF:

"833 West Pender Brochure - CBRE"

jollyburger · #**942** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 2:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

Do you or anyone have a scan of that sales brochure? Or is there any chance something taller, maybe just as tall or even taller than The Exchange could be built there?

Its such a waste of prime space and it would be silly if a measly 9 storey building is built on what little prime downtown land that we have...

Site Size: 6,240 Sq. Ft.*
Site Dimensions: 52 X 120*
Zoning: DD Downtown District (Sub Area “B”)
Density: Up to a 9.00x FSR Maximum Height: Up to 300 feet Maximum Buildable Area: Up to 56,160 Sq. Ft.

Draft architectural massing showing potential 9-storey commercial building on re-development.

Subject Site Disclaimer: The above model has not been shown to or approved by the City of Vancouver. It has been included for informational purposes to illustrate the density that may be allowable for the site under the City’s Downtown Official Development Plan

queetz@home · #**943** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 4:50 AM**

^^ Ok thanks for the info guys.

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Originally Posted by Jebby

It would be such an inefficient use of space with tiny floorplates (core + elevators) to build 35 stories on that site.

Well...that didn't stop the builders of this 35 storey office tower called MNP Tower from utilizing a small, constraint space, now did it?

Jebby · #**944** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 5:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

^^ Ok thanks for the info guys.

Well...that didn't stop the builders of this 35 storey office tower called MNP Tower from utilizing a small, constraint space, now did it?

The Edward Chapman site is less than half the size of the Credit Suisse site...

The MNP site is about 4 times as big as the Edward Chapman site.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**945** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 8:56 AM**

what about the building going next to RBC on West Hastings? that site is pretty small. seems to be about the same size as the proposed site.

queetz@home · #**946** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 11:20 AM**

^^ That too. Plus MNP Tower does not occupy its entire site. Besides, it doesn't even need to be an office building...what about 35 storey hotel? 1 King West in Toronto is extremely skinny but is 51 storeys tall.

Seems such a waste of space for a 9 storey groundscraper. You can also tear down that ugly 8 storey building beside it and build a bigger fatter office tower if combined with the Edward Chapman site. The location is just so prime it must not be wasted!

trofirhen · #**947** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 12:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

^^ That too. Plus MNP Tower does not occupy its entire site. Besides, it doesn't even need to be an office building...what about 35 storey hotel? 1 King West in Toronto is extremely skinny but is 51 storeys tall.

Seems such a waste of space for a 9 storey groundscraper. You can also tear down that ugly 8 storey building beside it and build a bigger fatter office tower if combined with the Edward Chapman site. The location is just so prime it must not be wasted!

Yes!! I would like to agree, esp about the ugly building next door. That belongs to another era and wouldn't be missed. _ That part of the CBD needs densifying, anyway IMO.

Jebby · #**948** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

^^ That too. Plus MNP Tower does not occupy its entire site.

It doesn't occupy the whole site, but it's floor plates are larger than the entire Edward Chapman lot at around 8,500 square feet.

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

Besides, it doesn't even need to be an office building...what about 35 storey hotel? 1 King West in Toronto is extremely skinny but is 51 storeys tall.

Even that has floor plates larger than the Edward Chapman site.

SpongeG · #**949** Posted **Jan 18, 2017, 9:37 PM**

make it happen lol

EdinVan · #**950** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 3:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Yes!! I would like to agree, esp about the ugly building next door. That belongs to another era and wouldn't be missed.

Perhaps it's ugly, but it adds variety and contrast, especially the colour. One reason The Exchange stands out is because of its contrast with its neighbours. If the downtown becomes too homogeneous, nothing stands out anymore and everything just looks the same--dull and boring.

Jebby · #**951** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

make it happen lol

I would love something like that in Vancouver.

It's actually a pretty decent sized lot.

officedweller · #**952** Posted **Jan 22, 2017, 12:30 AM**

Pics by me today:

mcminsen · #**953** Posted **Jan 22, 2017, 12:49 PM**

Jan.21 '17, my pics

Metro-One · #**954** Posted **Jan 22, 2017, 2:13 PM**

Great pics! That tower has a wonderful presence, especially in your first two pictures.

David · #**955** Posted **Jan 22, 2017, 6:27 PM**

It looks so good. I think it might be my favourite new tower in Vancouver in a while. It is a great addition to the area and I think they've done a great job incorporating the heritage facade.

trofirhen · #**956** Posted **Jan 22, 2017, 6:50 PM**

Great pictures, thanks.
I was wondering if, give the distate of some - including myself - of the Edward Chapman Store building - what about a miniature sized 'crystal court' such as in Minneapolis.

http://www.phototour.minneapolis.mn.us/pics/1607.jpg <please look
it could ultimately fit with the other building next door, if it is redeveloped,
complement The Exchange, and add streetwall continuity alongside.
Yes! It would need to be narrower, but could be part of another building, long and narrow, or integrated into the adjoining property, as has been mentioned.

LeftCoaster · #**957** Posted **Jan 23, 2017, 7:37 PM**

I'll admit I was not impressed with the renders when the first came out but I was completely wrong. This is one of the best office buildings in the city. It looks simply fantastic.

Now if only someone would lease some space in it...

EdinVan · #**958** Posted **Jan 24, 2017, 7:49 AM**

I like that the overhangs (or whatever the proper architectural term is) are quite subtle. I was worried that the building would like look a huge filing cabinet with open drawers at the top

queetz@home · #**959** Posted **Jan 24, 2017, 11:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I'll admit I was not impressed with the renders when the first came out but I was completely wrong. This is one of the best office buildings in the city. It looks simply fantastic.

Now if only someone would lease some space in it...

What do you mean? Is no one leasing office space in the building? Its pretty much going to be vacant? That's can't be good for the other more awesome office projects that have yet to be approved...

LeftCoaster · #**960** Posted **Jan 24, 2017, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

What do you mean? Is no one leasing office space in the building? Its pretty much going to be vacant? That's can't be good for the other more awesome office projects that have yet to be approved...

It's only 11% leased at this point.

Asking rates are quite high and the market has so far been unwilling to pay top dollar for a location it is deeming to be sub-optimal.

Personally I'm surprised it has had such little uptake, but the building does have its issues.

This will have a small effect on the new office projects, but this is largely viewed as an isolated case within the industry. I'd expect at least 2 of the next round of office towers to go ahead relatively soon.