Metro Vancouver Road Infrastructure Discussion

[cornholio]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

AFB interim solution:



http://www.canadianunderwriter.ca/insura...uver-area-bridge-cables-snow-1004105595/

I wonder if they got the idea from Global when their helicopter knocked the ice off the cables and made a nice news video for them.
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[jollyburger]

I seriously doubt they would be able to get close enough and get enough wash from their rotors to knock ice off. More likely would see a Chinook flying around to knock the snow and ice off. And I think they need to stay 1,000 feet clear from the tallest obstacle.



http://www.classg.com/aircraft-performance-specs/Robinson-R44_Raven_II-specs/1047

[Stingray2004]

Yeah. They were utilizing a "zoom" TV lens, from quite distant, for that footage.

[Klazu]

I think I saw them hovering over the bridge for a very long time. They were really milking for this to happen.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I think I saw them hovering over the bridge for a very long time. They were really milking for this to happen.

IF they are wandering that close to the bridge do yourself a favor and notify the Transportation Safety Board or something. They aren't allowed anywhere near as close to the bridge as the lens makes you think.
Global themselves released a statement that they were not responsible for the falling snow in that clip. Stop witch hunting.

[s211]

A quick question for the forum here: does anyone know what jurisdiction is responsible for the Oak Street bridge? The reason I ask is that I drove south along the bridge yesterday and there were some of the largest, widest potholes I'd ever seen. Yes, blame the weather maybe but there was no appearance of temporary repairs to be seen, and cars were swerving and hammering on brakes to try to avoid them. Made for interesting driving, to be sure.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by s211

A quick question for the forum here: does anyone know what jurisdiction is responsible for the Oak Street bridge? The reason I ask is that I drove south along the bridge yesterday and there were some of the largest, widest potholes I'd ever seen. Yes, blame the weather maybe but there was no appearance of temporary repairs to be seen, and cars were swerving and hammering on brakes to try to avoid them. Made for interesting driving, to be sure.

Wikipedia says British Columbia Ministry of Transportation and Main Road Contracting.

Any reason why the Oak Street Bridge gets so many potholes? The type of vehicles using it?

[Stingray2004]

Originally Posted by s211

A quick question for the forum here: does anyone know what jurisdiction is responsible for the Oak Street bridge? The reason I ask is that I drove south along the bridge yesterday and there were some of the largest, widest potholes I'd ever seen. Yes, blame the weather maybe but there was no appearance of temporary repairs to be seen, and cars were swerving and hammering on brakes to try to avoid them. Made for interesting driving, to be sure.

Yeah, BC MoTI has jurisdiction over the Oak Street Bridge. To preface, for decades the OSB has been notorious for small/large potholes on the bridge deck during winter months when we have constant freezing/thawing periods. The overlying asphalt pavement never seems to adhere properly to the underlying concrete deck. Looking at the short/long-term weather forecasts, the OSB bridge deck looks like it will become brutalized even further into February.

BTW, I just put a social media note out to BC MoTI on this matter and they typically respond back within a decent time-frame. Suspect (hoping) that pothole repair with "cold mix" will occur relatively shortly as I'm sure other motorists are complaining as well (including me).

[whatnext]

Looks like the CoV is in full panic mode over icy sidestreets and sidewalks, and its not even an election year!

http://www.news1130.com/2017/01/03/thous...-property-owners-failing-clear-ice-snow/

[jollyburger]

Free salt!

Starting Wednesday morning, salt will be made available free of charge at 10 fire halls around the city between 9am and 8pm. Using their own shovel and up to two of their own buckets, residents should only take the amount of salt they need.

You can pick up salt at:

· Fire Hall #3 – 2801 Quebec Street
· Fire Hall #4 – 1475 W. 10th Avenue
· Fire Hall #7 – 1090 Haro Street
· Fire Hall #12 – 2460 Balaclava Street
· Fire Hall #13 – 4013 Prince Albert Street
· Fire Hall #14 – 2804 Venables Street
· Fire Hall #15 – 3003 E. 22nd Avenue
· Fire Hall #17 – 7070 Knight Street
· Fire Hall #19 – 4396 W. 12th Avenue
· Fire Hall #22 – 1005 W. 59th Avenue

[AForce]

Its not free salt. You pay for it with your property taxes...

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Looks like the CoV is in full panic mode over icy sidestreets and sidewalks, and its not even an election year!

The side streets are pretty icy, but those that are on level ground are easy enough to navigate. I hope they focus on the hilly ones first. I wish them luck - once that snow has compacted and turned into a thick sheet of ice it's not going to be easy to get rid of it.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Free salt!

That's been a big problem. I had about 15kg of salt to deal with my sidewalks going into the first snowfall back in December but it was obvious that it wasn't going to last and when I started to look for some more I discovered that the whole city was out of it. I managed to score another 40kg by checking store websites every morning - I spotted 200 bags at the North Vancouver Canadian tire and by the time I got there an hour later they were down to just a couple of dozen bags. I've gone through half of that now and so I'm back to checking the websites every morning...

This is the worst winter for snow here in Vancouver that I can remember. I think we've had bigger individual dumps in the past, but for a whole month now we've been in a pattern where we get a pretty decent dump every week without it warming up enough to melt, so it's just continued to accumulate. And another dump is coming on Friday. If you don't keep up with the snow clearing you end up with thicker and thicker compacted-snow-turned-into-ice and it becomes a huge chore to dislodge it.

Torontonians would laugh, but when you go a decade between major snow events this is serious stuff for us.

[excel]

We need salt here in Burnaby!!! I am up on Capital Hill and it is nothing short of disastrous. Everywhere I've been is sold out...

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by AForce

Its not free salt. You pay for it with your property taxes...

It's free if you don't live in Vancouver

[libtard]

This is the worst winter I've seen for damage to road surfaces

Vancouver is so ill prepared

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by libtard

This is the worst winter I've seen for damage to road surfaces

Vancouver is so ill prepared

I know, it is almost as if this is not a normal winter, so the cities can't really justify buying all the equipment / preparation for such a year.

And how is the road damage from this winter the cities fault? Please explain how they could have stopped the damage? It is almost as if freeze thaw cycles are havoc for pavement (hence why the roads in the rest of Canada are terrible every spring).

[Pinion]

The north shore is in much better shape - someone in those three municipalities figured out how to prepare for this. Can't believe how bad it is in Vancouver proper.

[moosejaw]

Your lucky you get winter..Ive had to use my AC every day since March 2016. Bloddy horrible. My sweaters are not being used!!!!

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Looks like the CoV is in full panic mode over icy sidestreets and sidewalks, and its not even an election year!

http://www.news1130.com/2017/01/03/thous...-property-owners-failing-clear-ice-snow/

Icy sidewalks are an impediment to people of all ages and abilities. I'm in strong favour of strict bylaw enforcement to get people to clear their sidewalks, and I'm able-bodied.

Roll your eyes all you like, but when people can't leave their houses because they can't walk on the sidewalks, that's a problem.

[logicbomb]

This is a major issue in Vancouver right now, and one that I have been dealing with around VGH and lower Cambie.

This is where the City needs to take action and circulate warnings/letters to every resident in Vancouver and outline fines/penalties for not clearing their walkways and sidewalks.

I used to live near Shaughnessy back in the day when we had these things called "communities." My neighbor used to assemble a team consisting of other neighbors to clear sidewalks and pathways of the elderly. It didn't stop there, they used to also shovel side-streets and alley's.

The harsh reality is that we have seen an influx of affluent immigrants; and many scoff at the idea of doing any "hard labour." The communal aspect is long gone and the sad reality is that many people have been trapped in their homes for weeks due to the treacherous sidewalks.

It's also time to target businesses. Some gas stations have plowed snow ONTO the sidewalks, and it seems like many businesses along Main, Fraser, Knight haven't even bothered to do anything.

Also blame is shared with the municipal government. We've enjoyed a snow-free strech thanks to 5 weak to moderate El Nino's in the past 8 years....But there was talk about a weak La Nina winter back in Sept and these have brought some of the worst snow (1989/90, 2006/07, 2008/09). They did nothing to budget accordingly and have paid dearly due to any lack of preparation.