YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

Rumours on flyertalk: YVR - BKK and MNL coming soon on Air Canada.

Both make sense, will be interesting to see the next batch of AC789s and where they end up.

Fingers crossed AC exercises their options on the 789, that would really increase the likelyhood of the growth continuing.

Originally Posted by nname

More? Would they bring back SMF?

The new morning flight is good for connection to the Asian flights around noon.

Love this increase, times into the first Asian bank beautifully. This is the kind of transborder growth that will really help AC/star alliance sustain its growing Asia hub here.

Originally Posted by casper

The Alaska Mileage Plus program includes earning and redemption on: Cathay, Air France, AeroMexico, KLM, and Qantas who all serve YVR but do not serve Seattle.

Since they are dropping code share and millage redemption/earn with Delta. It may be good for YVR.

I would assume their drop with delta affects all star alliance partners so they would no longer redeem/earn with KLM, Cathay etc.. either.

[vanlaw]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I would assume their drop with delta affects all star alliance partners so they would no longer redeem/earn with KLM, Cathay etc.. either.

You mean Skyteam I think. I hope that's not the result. Hopefully the drop of Delta is more a result of their pissing match over Seatac and not a move away from more of their Mileage Plan partners..

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by vanlaw

You mean Skyteam I think. I hope that's not the result. Hopefully the drop of Delta is more a result of their pissing match over Seatac and not a move away from more of their Mileage Plan partners..

Haha yep.

I'd be surprised if their spat with Delta didn't roll over to the rest of the alliance though, Delta are pretty influential as a founding member after all.

[vanlaw]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Haha yep.

I'd be surprised if their spat with Delta didn't roll over to the rest of the alliance though, Delta are pretty influential as a founding member after all.

True. That would be unfortunate. That's one of the big reasons why Alaska's Mileage Plan is so attractive.

[LeftCoaster]

Found some cool shots of the intl pier from a YVR ATC's twitter:

All shots from: https://twitter.com/Towerden

This one showing a portion of the Europe block:


This one showing the afternoon Asian block (including a bonus 3 747-800s)



Looks to me that there are
4 777-300s
1 7772-200
4 747-800s
2 A330-200s

That's a lot of plane in one shot!

[Gordon]

Great shot. which airline is the light blue 747 landing.

I was looking at the updated google maps satellite shot of YVR. There is no sign of any permanent construction at Pier A They have expanded The temporary facility to include gates A 6 & A7 bu not permanent ground level holdrooms. Can the area inside the main terminal handle the load from 6 full Q400 at once?

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by Gordon

Great shot. which airline is the light blue 747 landing.

Korean air

Why is there two KA747s at YVR?

[vanlaw]

Originally Posted by moosejaw

Korean air

Why is there two KA747s at YVR?

I think one is cargo.

[jmt18325]

One is - you can tell by the difference in the upper deck. The Cathay is also a 748F.

[nname]

So according to airlineroute, CA's YVR-PEK will become '777HD' starting March, and BR's YVR-TPE will be their version of '777HD' starting June... Seems like YVR is getting a collection of high-density planes...

[POCO]

Originally Posted by nname

So according to airlineroute, CA's YVR-PEK will become '777HD' starting March, and BR's YVR-TPE will be their version of '777HD' starting June... Seems like YVR is getting a collection of high-density planes...

I have to fly to HKG early next year and I'm trying to decide between the BR 747 before it goes away(maybe I can get upper deck economy...) or the CX 777. I'd rather avoid 14hrs in a 10 abreast 777 (Air Canada) if at all possible. I know the 777 would be a much more modern a/c and IFE but I've never had a chance to fly on a 747 and with fewer and fewer flying now...

The wife will probably want the direct non-stop flight with an afternoon departure anyway

I will definitely hit up that CX A350 on the way back in the late summer though

BR seems to have the cheapest flights to HKG and I have to imagine that a HD777 gives them room to fight any potential price drop Hong Kong Airlines or other less expensive mainland airlines are forcing on flights to that part of Asia. I guess it'll also help them avoid dropping the number of daily seats aswell. They retire their last 747s in March. It looks like their new 777s are coming in HD config and the older ones are being refurbished to the same.

I was going to say that I'm sure some evil person is thinking of how to squeeze 10 abreast in an A350 but it looks like someone already has... sub 17 inch seats.

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by nname

So according to airlineroute, CA's YVR-PEK will become '777HD' starting March, and BR's YVR-TPE will be their version of '777HD' starting June... Seems like YVR is getting a collection of high-density planes...

Sadly, 10 abreast is now the industry standard for the triple 7's. Been tracking the A350 deliveries and seems most are sticking w 9 abreast which will make them by far the most comfortable Y for now. Cathay and Singapore will be A350 dominant soon so good news for Asian travellers. The US3, DL, UA and AA all have them on order and my guess is they'll be 9 abreast as well.

[mezzanine]

Originally Posted by POCO

I have to fly to HKG early next year and I'm trying to decide between the BR 747 before it goes away(maybe I can get upper deck economy...) or the CX 777. I'd rather avoid 14hrs in a 10 abreast 777 (Air Canada) if at all possible. I know the 777 would be a much more modern a/c and IFE but I've never had a chance to fly on a 747 and with fewer and fewer flying now...

The wife will probably want the direct non-stop flight with an afternoon departure anyway

With BR, you may be better off to avoid the upper deck economy on the 747. It has a lower ceiling than the main deck and feels less spacious. It isn't hard to snag an empty middle seat if it's 2 of you flying on the main deck v the upper deck.

[mezzanine]

YVR-NKG direct started 2 days ago. Of note, YVR-asia fares seem to be very competitive going into Jan-Feb.

Today, Vancouver International Airport (YVR) celebrated the inaugural flight of China Eastern's non-stop service to Nanjing, China. This new year-round service will operate three times weekly to Nanjing Lukou International Airport (NKG).

"We want to thank our long-standing partner, China Eastern, for choosing YVR to introduce this new connection between Vancouver and Nanjing, a renowned Chinese historical epicenter and a key economic hub," said Craig Richmond, YVR's President & CEO. "This is another exciting first for YVR—offering passengers the only non-stop access to Nanjing in all of Canada."

China Eastern Airlines has been operating at YVR for the past 12 years after launching daily service to Shanghai Pudong International Airport (PVG) in 2004. In 2015, they added new direct service to Kunming—one of China's key connecting hubs as a tag onwards from Shanghai. The new service will fly non-stop to Nanjing and then carry on to Kunming. This new offering will further connect YVR's passengers with China Eastern's network, which includes 128 connections in China.

The new service will operate using an Airbus A330-200 on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, arriving at YVR at 8:30 a.m. and leaving at 10:30 a.m.

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/china-eastern-opens-up-access-to-nanjing-607633876.html

[Vin]

Nice find of many wide bodied jets from around the world, Leftcoaster!
Wait till YVR start hosting more A380 planes.

[sacrifice333]

Originally Posted by vanlaw

You mean Skyteam I think. I hope that's not the result. Hopefully the drop of Delta is more a result of their pissing match over Seatac and not a move away from more of their Mileage Plan partners..

The dropping of Delta was a function of their merger with Virgin, it was a requirement of the DOJ to approve the merger.

It would be a significant strike to the mileage plan if it were to impact the Skyteam earning/redeeming. If that's the case I would expect Alaska to consider a more formal relationship with the alliance. But who knows...

[CareerShow]

Originally Posted by nname

So according to airlineroute, CA's YVR-PEK will become '777HD' starting March, and BR's YVR-TPE will be their version of '777HD' starting June... Seems like YVR is getting a collection of high-density planes...

It appears actually that the daily Air China flight will continue to be the regular 773, with the now 3 weekly additional flight to be offered on the HD aircraft.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...h-america-service-changes-as-of-22dec16/

[nname]

Originally Posted by CareerShow

It appears actually that the daily Air China flight will continue to be the regular 773, with the now 3 weekly additional flight to be offered on the HD aircraft.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...h-america-service-changes-as-of-22dec16/

Beijing – Vancouver
CA991/992 eff 26MAR17 2-class 777-300ER replaces 3-class, 1 daily
CA997/998 21JUN17 – 29SEP17 Seasonal service reduced from 4 to 3 weekly (Overall from 10 to 9 weekly). 3-class 777-300ER operates until 31JUL17, switching to 2-class from 02AUG17

The regular flight goes HD in March; the seasonal flight goes HD in Aug.

[thenoflyzone]

AC announces codeshare with CX, one week after announcing codeshare with VA.

CX codeshare link

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/air-canada-cathay-pacific-introduce-200000404.html

VA codeshare link

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/air...-in-strategic-cooperation-606563026.html

[CareerShow]

Originally Posted by nname

The regular flight goes HD in March; the seasonal flight goes HD in Aug.

What happened to the 14 weekly schedule Air China had last year?