YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 538

Cage · #**10741** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 5:43 PM**

Not to pull this thread off the China, China, China, California, China discussion, but we need to pay some attention to the announcements QF is making regarding their 789 operations. As announced in the previous three days:
- MEL-LAX-MEL will be daily on 789 and 388. This will require 2 789 FTEs.
- PER-LHR-PER will be daily on 17 hour flight. Plus the aircraft has to come from somewhere (ie either SYD or MEL). this will require 4 789 FTEs (well probably 3.5 aircraft but the 0.5 is useless unless on another domestic or trans Tasman run).

While the announcements do leave room for SYD-YVR, there is a case that YVR-SYD has lost the beauty contest for 789 services.

Of course the other answer is that QF has options on 2018 or 2019 789 deliveries.

nname · #**10742** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 6:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cage

- PER-LHR-PER will be daily on 17 hour flight. Plus the aircraft has to come from somewhere (ie either SYD or MEL). this will require 4 789 FTEs (well probably 3.5 aircraft but the 0.5 is useless unless on another domestic or trans Tasman run).

Well, daily SYD-YVR-SYD needs about 1.5 aircraft

There are still 2 more aircrafts for the order of 8...

Johnny Aussie · #**10743** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 7:35 PM**

Ha ha!

Yes following the QF movements and announcements very closely down here.

So far no real surprises as to QF's new routes. Let's see what plays out. YVR may just remain a seasonal QF 744 destination for the short to medium term.

As for the China, China, Texas, Ireland, Germany, California, China, China discussions on here... YVR is damn lucky to be having ALL these discussions unlike most Canadian airports

trofirhen · #**10744** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Ha ha!

Yes following the QF movements and announcements very closely down here.

So far no real surprises as to QF's new routes. Let's see what plays out. YVR may just remain a seasonal QF 744 destination for the short to medium term.

As for the China, China, Texas, Ireland, Germany, California, China, China discussions on here... YVR is damn lucky to be having ALL these discussions unlike most Canadian airports

How does the action expansion here stack up to YYZ?

LeftCoaster · #**10745** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yeah wouldn't pay too much attention to the CZ's flip flop they've now been here long enough to see there is a default pattern. My source says it should flip back again to the 77W so probably won't see the the 788 on that route again.

Figured as much. That said I wouldn't mind a 7x77W 2x788 rotation. Their dreamliner is pretty.

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Originally Posted by zahav

It will be with a 737-800. Which is no slouch, the -800 and -900 series are almost comparable to 757s. We are going to see lots of upper series 737s, both DL and AS are putting 737-900s to YVR for some routes, and UA hasn't yet but they are always changing their a/c scheds and usually have a -900 here in the summer. AA is using 737-800s on twice daily PHX and DFW routes, and of course DL and Westjet

Ya the 738s and 739s are nice, and as a passenger I think I would prefer them, but the 757 is jsut such a legend of a plane. Love seeing its occational appearances at YVR, especially in Icelandair livery.

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Air Canada's latest summer 2017 schedule update has the following additions:

LAX will have a 6th daily flight added - a late evening departure
SAN will in fact have a second daily evening flight added for the summer

The additional LAX flight will be operated by 320s and SAN of course on Jazz CRAs.

So yet even more AC expansion out of YVR next summer! 14 daily flights on AC just to California next summer.

According to my sheet, it's 27,700 seats per week to California now, 13,000 of which are on Air Canada!

Johnny Aussie · #**10746** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 9:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

According to my sheet, it's 27,700 seats per week to California now, 13,000 of which are on Air Canada!

That's A LOT of seats!!

You said you like variety... well Delta is also now showing a once weekly mainline 717 on the YVR-LAX flights... the afternoon flight on Saturdays.

LeftCoaster · #**10747** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 11:16 PM**

Nice! Delta is sure to give you variety. Looking at their fleetlist they seem to have at least one of every aircraft imaginable.

SFUVancouver · #**10748** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 11:19 PM**

^ With C-Series joining the mix, too, in the coming years.

LeftCoaster · #**10749** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 11:22 PM**

So a while ago I took a look at the top intl' airports in the US on wikipedia chart, and added in Canada.

I figured with all this growth it'd be interesting to see where YVR has gotten to on the list now:

Some impressive growth is yielding big results. YVR has leapfrogged Houston from 10th to 9th on the list and Atlanta and Chicago are well within striking distance.

These types of lists totally benefit Canadian airports because US airports don't separate out trans-border, but its still pretty damn impressive.

LeftCoaster · #**10750** Posted **Dec 13, 2016, 11:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

^ With C-Series joining the mix, too, in the coming years.

Ya, I'm really hoping YVR becomes a big C series base for Air Canada. It's a sharp looking plane with economics that should open up some continental routes for YVR.

CareerShow · #**10751** Posted **Dec 14, 2016, 12:02 AM**

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Ya, I'm really hoping YVR becomes a big C series base for Air Canada. It's a sharp looking plane with economics that should open up some continental routes for YVR.

I would bet they will and these aircraft will replace many of the the thinner routes which have the a319 and CRA aircraft on them. Remember how big the E90's were here until they begun to get phased out. I would imagine AC would position a 737 pilot base here as well.

With regards to Delta, they seem to be the one airline in the world not overly eager to update their fleet, seems a lot of 763 and 752 and 753 will remain in the fleet for many years to come, as well as the 717. Seems they think its economically feasible to run these aircraft as they can buy them for cheap or have fully paid them off already.

I would imagine AC has a pilot base in Vancouver for all aircrafts other than the a330 no? Certainly enough 777, 787, a320's, CRA, and DH4 traffic through YVR to justify it and if not where do the pilots who fly these routes transition? from.

SpongeG · #**10752** Posted **Dec 14, 2016, 6:19 AM**

Singapore Airlines is starting a direct flight to New York, total trip time is 19 hours :O

I can't find the link now but BBC News posted an article of the world's longest airline routes, cause quantas is starting a new direct perth to london flight at 17 hours, so they listed long flights noting once the new singapre service starts it will take honours of being the longest routeat 19 hours

jmt18325 · #**10753** Posted **Dec 14, 2016, 1:26 PM**

They've actually had that flight a couple times. Hopefully the new more efficient aircraft makes it viable.

jmt18325 · #**10754** Posted **Dec 15, 2016, 3:30 AM**

Rumours on flyertalk: YVR - BKK and MNL coming soon on Air Canada.

Johnny Aussie · #**10755** Posted **Dec 15, 2016, 6:32 AM**

Another day another AC increase.

AC adding a third daily flight on the YVR-SJC route for the summer 2017 season.

The third daily flight will depart at 2010 arriving in SJC at 2223.

The return is an early morning departure from SJC at 0610 arriving YVR at 0820.

Operated by Jazz CRAs.

So make that 15 daily AC flights to CA next summer... I know more California increases! Sigh!

CareerShow · #**10756** Posted **Dec 15, 2016, 6:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Another day another AC increase.

AC adding a third daily flight on the YVR-SJC route for the summer 2017 season.

The third daily flight will depart at 2010 arriving in SJC at 2223.

The return is an early morning departure from SJC at 0610 arriving YVR at 0820.

Operated by Jazz CRAs.

Route must be doing well then!

SpongeG · #**10757** Posted **Dec 15, 2016, 6:56 AM**

I have a parking at the airport question, i need to park for about 8 days, but i am confused which is the best option and cheapest... jetset? park N fly? should i book online ahead of time, it seems they give you a better price then just driving up

casper · #**10758** Posted **Dec 15, 2016, 7:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

I have a parking at the airport question, i need to park for about 8 days, but i am confused which is the best option and cheapest... jetset? park N fly? should i book online ahead of time, it seems they give you a better price then just driving up

I have not looked for a while (six months or so), but last time I did it was prepaid jetset or park N fly offered the best deal. Some times if you google for discount or promo codes you can get good deals.

If you also need a hotel, some of the airport hotels will provide fee parking for a up to a few weeks if you book a room for one night.

YVR parking generally is over priced. Several months ago I had dinner at the Fairmount. Parking cost more than the meal. That says a lot especially given the prices at that hotel.

SpongeG · #**10759** Posted **Dec 15, 2016, 7:49 AM**

ok cool thanks, i will see what promos i can find.

nname · #**10760** Posted **Dec 15, 2016, 10:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Another day another AC increase.

AC adding a third daily flight on the YVR-SJC route for the summer 2017 season.

The third daily flight will depart at 2010 arriving in SJC at 2223.

The return is an early morning departure from SJC at 0610 arriving YVR at 0820.

Operated by Jazz CRAs.

So make that 15 daily AC flights to CA next summer... I know more California increases! Sigh!

More? Would they bring back SMF?

The new morning flight is good for connection to the Asian flights around noon.