Zibi Gatineau Quebec | U/C

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

The whole sovereignty movement.

I think at this point the taxes are the main drag rather than much worry about separation. That said for this project I think the opposite might be true. There is a lot of pent up demand (from young professionals and downsizers who will only live in Quebec) and this will basically be the only "cool" walkable neighborhood in Gatineau. The Ottawa side is competing with a bunch of other projects and neighborhoods. Of course if you work in Portage the Ottawa side will be a great chance to walk to work and still pay Ontario taxes.

I worry it will end up like LeBreton though, especially given the soft condo market in Ottawa.

[passwordisnt123]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

The whole sovereignty movement.

I'm not sure if you've picked up a newspaper in the last 10 years, but support for sovereignty in Quebec is in the 30s. That's not too far off from the proportion of Albertans who say they'd be open to separation.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by passwordisnt123

I'm not sure if you've picked up a newspaper in the last 10 years, but support for sovereignty in Quebec is in the 30s. That's not too far off from the proportion of Albertans who say they'd be open to separation.

Reports of the movement's death have been, as usual, greatly exaggerated.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Reports of the movement's death have been, as usual, greatly exaggerated.

Exactly it will always be a factor in any investment decision.(along with taxes and language issues) Even if we put the chance of separation at say 5% in the next 20 years, if it happened it could lead to a huge loss, so smart investors have to adjust accordingly. People buying a home might not think about it anymore but it does impact the cost of land and therefore housing prices.

[passwordisnt123]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Exactly it will always be a factor in any investment decision.(along with taxes and language issues) Even if we put the chance of separation at say 5% in the next 20 years, if it happened it could lead to a huge loss, so smart investors have to adjust accordingly. People buying a home might not think about it anymore but it does impact the cost of land and therefore housing prices.

I doubt that even the most wide-eyed Péquist partisan zealot honestly thinks the chances of separation are as high as 5% in the next 20 years. I'd bet against that outcome with those odds any day of the week but I doubt there's any bookie who'd even offer those odds.

Other than that though, I basically agree with the rest of what you wrote.

[Citoyen du monde]

long time no see

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by passwordisnt123

I'm not sure if you've picked up a newspaper in the last 10 years, but support for sovereignty in Quebec is in the 30s. That's not too far off from the proportion of Albertans who say they'd be open to separation.

The sovereignty question comes and goes. Who knows what will happen in another 10, 20 years. That said, it certainly not the number 1 reason to avoid moving to, or expect to pay a lower price in Québec. The high taxes and lack of services (if you don't have kids) are the big issues facing Québec. I don't think anyone can say that the pricing for 400-500 square feet at Zibi's Québec side condos is 100% fair.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

The sovereignty question comes and goes. Who knows what will happen in another 10, 20 years. That said, it certainly not the number 1 reason to avoid moving to, or expect to pay a lower price in Québec. The high taxes and lack of services (if you don't have kids) are the big issues facing Québec. I don't think anyone can say that the pricing for 400-500 square feet at Zibi's Québec side condos is 100% fair.

Fair? What's fair? It's whatever people are willing to pay.

[rocketphish]

Windmill offers more studio, one-bedroom units at Zibi in Gatineau

Anita Murray, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 25, 2015 | Last Updated: November 25, 2015 7:13 PM EST

Studio and one-bedroom units at Zibi’s first condo release on the Gatineau side, called O, have been so popular that builder Windmill Development Group has decided to divide some of its two-bedroom-plus-den corner units to meet demand.

Studios had sold out and the one-bedrooms were almost gone, says Windmill partner Rodney Wilts, so 10 revised units were made available. They include the Ebb, a 476-square-foot studio plus balcony starting at $220,000, and the Rivage, a one-bedroom with 679 square feet plus balcony starting at $323,000.

Zibi is Windmill and Dream Unlimited Corp.’s ultra-green mixed-use development on the former Domtar lands around Chaudière Falls.

http://ottawacitizen.com/life/homes/cond...io-one-bedroom-units-at-zibi-in-gatineau

[MattRichling]

Sales Update
- Phase one "O" is sitting about 65% sold
- Phase two "Kanaal" is sitting about 60% sold
- There are 15 new units being released this week for phase two (not included in %)
- 65% was the target for phase one allowing construction to begin
- Expecting completion late 2017 early 2018

[rocketphish]

Gatineau council approves first phase of Zibi project

Paula McCooey, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: January 27, 2016 | Last Updated: January 27, 2016 2:24 PM EST

Gatineau city council has given Windmill Developments a unanimous green light to start building the first phase of its Zibi multi-use community on the former Domtar lands.

Windmill Development Group co-founder Jeff Westeinde confirmed the company will start pouring concrete this spring once the excavation and remediation of the land is complete. The process is the launch of an ambitious community plan that will include a public square, condos and townhomes with pristine views of the river and Parliament Hill.

“The fact that we got unanimous approval from council again is encouraging just to show the continued, very strong support for the project,” said Westeinde.

The first phase will be located in the southwest corner of the site by Laval and Laurier streets, and the other phases — six phase over 12 years — will extend to the downtown core of Hull, down to the banks of the Ottawa River.

The project includes a public square on the waterfront called the Laval Street Square and the “O Condos” designed by Rubin & Rotman Architects. In Ottawa, Zibi rests on the western edge of downtown and includes both the Chaudière and Albert islands.

“O” will include around 280 residential units. Windmill has released 60 so far with a little more than half sold. The properties average around $400 per square foot. Some of the highlights will include oversized balconies and a shared rooftop terrace with views of the Parliamentary district, the Ottawa skyline and the Chaudière Falls.

Windmill expects the first phase to be move-in ready in 2017.

Over the next 15 years, the 37-acre parcel of land straddling the Ottawa River at the Chaudière Falls will be transformed into a pedestrian-oriented community featuring waterfront parks and open spaces, a blend of commercial, retail and 1,200 residential properties, a hotel, and a network of cycling paths.

Also Tuesday, Gatineau council authorized the rezoning of Village Place Cartier shopping centre at St-Raymond and St-Joseph boulevards in the Hull sector.

The centre, near the Lac Leamy Casino, plans to spend about $30 million to double its its retail space.

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http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/gatineau-council-approves-first-phase-of-zibi-project

[zzptichka]

Sounds like they are quite a bit behind their schedule.

[zzptichka]

Zibi has some good complete street plans for Chaudiere crossing (still up to the city to actually design and build it)
Would be a shame if the city goes ahead with the current design for Booth street bridge.

[silvergate]

I know they said it would be dangerous for bikers and peds to share the space behind the bus shelters, which is why they say they aren't putting a bike lane behind them on the new Booth Street bridge. Just biking past the shelters at Lebreton today I can see why they think that. Pedestrians were walking on every different part of the marked path, a lot of them were walking right on the middle line. I could see chaos at a busy LRT stop

[Buggys]

Then separate a bike path portion with chains. Not having a defined bike path means that there will be even more conflicts.

[LeadingEdgeBoomer]

The Ottawa Business Jouranl says that Cirque du Soleil is comin to Zibi for 2017, and if it worls out well, could be there for years to come.

Developers took the first step in establishing Zibi as a go-to outdoor event space today with the announcement that Cirque du Soleil will bring a new show to the site, starting in August 2017.

Windmill Development Group and Dream Unlimited Corp. (TSXRM), the developers behind Zibi, said today that they were partnering with La Ville de Gatineau and Place des Festivals to host the extravagant circus performance.
VOLTA, the new show from Cirque, will coincide with Gatineau 2017’s events and activities to commemorate Canada’s 150th anniversary. Thirty-one performances will run from Aug. 3-27, each with a capacity of 2,500 people.
The partnership with Cirque allows for the possibility of more shows to follow in the same location for the next six years if this first venture is successful.
Windmill executive chairman Jeff Westeinde told OBJ that the planned 10-acre site is a large event organizer’s dream.
“In the development game, it’s location, location, location,” he said, imagining Cirque du Soleil’s big top tent towering over the nearby river and bridges. He adds that the accessibility of the space via transit and bike paths will attract guests from both sides of Ottawa-Gatineau.
Mr. Westeinde is hoping VOLTA will be a coming out party for Zibi as a large event destination. He said there are a limited number of local sites for events of between 2,000 and 3,000 people, and that Zibi is well-positioned to fill that gap.
“Our hope is that this site will turn into a cultural hub for a lot of those big shows that come through,” he said.
Cirque du Soleil CEO Daniel Lamarre said in a statement that site selection plays an important role in the company’s touring plans.
“The location of the Zibi site is ideal for Cirque du Soleil because it is easily accessible for locals and tourists alike, but also allows us to be at the heart of the cultural offerings of the National Capital Region,” he stated.
The planned site sits on the eastern portion of the Zibi development on the Quebec side of the Ottawa River, closest to the Portage Bridge (map).
Currently, the land is a vacant industrial lot, but the area will be prepared for the show by Gatineau’s Place des Festivals with amenities such as access to water, electricity and sewage systems.
Gatineau’s municipal council approved a $300,000 grant yesterday for the work, and Windmill and Dream plan on investing an additional $400,000 to complete other necessary infrastructure such as parking

[SkeggsEggs]

Thinking of Zibi, anybody know how it is progressing?

[LaGrandeOurse]

I've seen several cranes ont the property from afar but haven't had a chance to have a look up close.

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by LaGrandeOurse

I've seen several cranes ont the property from afar but haven't had a chance to have a look up close.

Cranes at Zibi? Or the cranes at the Hydro Ottawa project?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7606955&postcount=29

[LaGrandeOurse]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Cranes at Zibi? Or the cranes at the Hydro Ottawa project?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7606955&postcount=29

ya that's probably it. I was wondering what those were, thank you.