YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Looks like CZ will be announcing MEX soon as well for an April 2017 start (a bit delayed) 3 weekly 788 flights. CZ has loaded 787s back in the system for the daily YVR-CAN flight but they usually revert back to a 77W... there has been a pattern developing now that they have flown here long enough.

Also waiting to see when Interjet announces there flights....

3x weekly MEX and daily YVR...? where does that extra weekly come from? CA? HU?

[thenoflyzone]

Read on airliners that Rouge will be starting summer seasonal YVR-CDG in S17. Don't know how accurate the source is.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Read on airliners that Rouge will be starting summer seasonal YVR-CDG in S17. Don't know how accurate the source is.

So AC is timourously getting into the YVR - CDG scene. I'd rather see Westjet into Orly. (smaller, more accessible, and a bit less vast and sterile)

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Read on airliners that Rouge will be starting summer seasonal YVR-CDG in S17. Don't know how accurate the source is.

Just read that. Sounds speculative and no source of the speculation. I've read a lot about MAN too. Anyway still time for route finalisation for next summer but normally new services are announced prior to the end of the year for summer services.

[nname]

MU just announced that they have plan to start XIY-YVR in 2017. Didn't mention whether its one-stop or non-stop, and not sure where the extra frequency come from either...

[excel]

Couple pictures of our beautiful airport among my arrival from PHX yesterday.

[nname]

Hong Kong Airlines schedule eff. June 30th:

HX080 HKG1230 – 1010YVR 332 D
HX081 YVR1210 – 1650+1HKG 332 D

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...irlines-files-vancouver-schedule-in-s17/

The A330 have the range for this??

[nname]

Time change for Capital Airlines eff Dec 30th

Hangzhou – Qingdao – Vancouver
Departure time will move 3-4 hours earlier than previously planned schedule

JD471 HGH1115 – 1305TAO1505 – 1010YVR 330 357
JD472 YVR1210 – 1555+1TAO1755+1 – 1940+1HGH 330 357

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...madrid-vancouver-schedule-from-dec-2016/

Notice the arrival and departure time at YVR...

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

Hong Kong Airlines schedule eff. June 30th:

HX080 HKG1230 – 1010YVR 332 D
HX081 YVR1210 – 1650+1HKG 332 D

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...irlines-files-vancouver-schedule-in-s17/

The A330 have the range for this??

Yes, it does. DL flies their SEA-HKG route with an A332 as well.

They really wanted to get on this route ASAP and they don't want to wait u til the A350 arrives and is certified.

[nname]

Their plan also have London, New York for 2017, LAX, SFO for 2018, CDG, MEL, SYD for 2019, and MXP, CHC, ORD for 2020... A350 for YVR may have to wait for a while since they pretty much have to use it for New York and maybe LAX/SFO...

[Gordon]

Theses 2 departures will certainly make the asian departure block extremely busy

[nname]

Originally Posted by Gordon

Theses 2 departures will certainly make the asian departure block extremely busy

Those, and then add in FRA, TPE, NGO next summer... all depart at about the same time

I don't really think it fits anymore unless they're making 76, 77, 78 international

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by nname

MU just announced that they have plan to start XIY-YVR in 2017. Didn't mention whether its one-stop or non-stop, and not sure where the extra frequency come from either...

Assume it was in Mandarin? I haven't seen anything in the English media.

Seems like something the would be planning on in the event of new slots being available. Highly doubt they'd want to drop more PVG flying given they've already reduced from 14x to 11x with the Nanjing service.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by nname

Their plan also have London, New York for 2017, LAX, SFO for 2018, CDG, MEL, SYD for 2019, and MXP, CHC, ORD for 2020... A350 for YVR may have to wait for a while since they pretty much have to use it for New York and maybe LAX/SFO...

I think the 332 will be weight restricted from HKG though, so they may put the 359 on it anyway.

[nname]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Assume it was in Mandarin? I haven't seen anything in the English media.

Seems like something the would be planning on in the event of new slots being available. Highly doubt they'd want to drop more PVG flying given they've already reduced from 14x to 11x with the Nanjing service.

XIY-PVG-YVR maybe?

Yes, it's in quite a few of Chinese media now... This is coming from the speeches from the CEO of the Northwest branch of China Eastern during an event

[Gordon]

We may see all the swing gates inc C\D 48 & 49 be used or international flights during that block.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Gordon

We may see all the swing gates inc C\D 48 & 49 be used or international flights during that block.

Sounds like they need to move quickly on getting shovels in the ground with the expansion of the international terminal.

[zahav]

I posted this but didn't get any replies (it was the dreaded last post of a page so probably didn't get seen). Any thoughts?

I wonder if AC is considering making YVR-DEL year round. I know it's a very new route and relatively untested for a non-stop, but I wonder if that's where they might assign at least part of the 787 capacity from LHR? Note, AC is also dropping it's 2nd daily Paris flight, also a 787. So there is probably some new routes (or extensions of existing seasonal routes like DEL) in the process. Unless they just plan on sticking these aircraft on something boring like YYZ-YVR haha...

On another topic, has it been discussed if YVR ever considered building a 2nd airport hotel? I'm thinking somewhere like the economy lot just west of the parkade. Keep the economy lot on ground floor and maybe add a 2nd floor, and then hotel on top? I think the Fairmont is amazing, but it's $$ and higher end. I'm thinking a more mid-market hotel with reasonable rates. It would really have a big market I'd think. It could be connected to the parkade, and even a new overheard walkway directly across to the US terminal (not necessary if there's a good connectrion to the parkade direct through to the terminal entrance/skytrain). Even YYC now has two on-site airport hotels. The airspace above the Economy lot just seems like it could get good use from something like this

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by zahav

I posted this but didn't get any replies (it was the dreaded last post of a page so probably didn't get seen). Any thoughts?

I wonder if AC is considering making YVR-DEL year round. I know it's a very new route and relatively untested for a non-stop, but I wonder if that's where they might assign at least part of the 787 capacity from LHR? Note, AC is also dropping it's 2nd daily Paris flight, also a 787. So there is probably some new routes (or extensions of existing seasonal routes like DEL) in the process. Unless they just plan on sticking these aircraft on something boring like YYZ-YVR haha...

On another topic, has it been discussed if YVR ever considered building a 2nd airport hotel? I'm thinking somewhere like the economy lot just west of the parkade. Keep the economy lot on ground floor and maybe add a 2nd floor, and then hotel on top? I think the Fairmont is amazing, but it's $$ and higher end. I'm thinking a more mid-market hotel with reasonable rates. It would really have a big market I'd think. It could be connected to the parkade, and even a new overheard walkway directly across to the US terminal (not necessary if there's a good connectrion to the parkade direct through to the terminal entrance/skytrain). Even YYC now has two on-site airport hotels. The airspace above the Economy lot just seems like it could get good use from something like this

Regarding AC YVR-DEL, I often wondered .... wouldn't it be a blast if, considering it's the shortest route from Western North America, and given the large Indian population in Vancouver ...
... Wouldn't it be a surprising blast if it didn't, unexpectedly, "get big" on them, and become a real 'in demand' route. Vancouver has the population base for it, if there's a big enough J class.
...........................
ACCOR Hotels of France has numerous chains of hotels, ranging from pricey SOFITEL, down to budget IBIS, and everything in between. They might be interested. Another hotel seems needed.

[s211]

I'm curious who just bought the YVR Fairmont hotel. The sale was announced just recently.