YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

https://www.otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/ruling/2016-a-198

Colourful tail anyone

Planned start date is 30 June 2017. Daily flights.

Another daily flight to an exisiting destination... even though it's a new airline... yawn!

Now the second airlines from HNA group is going to fly to Vancouver... wonder if Hainan or Tianjin will come eventually...

So with this and the reduction of London, does Hong Kong now the top international destination from YVR by seats?

[SpongeG]

one of the new big screens in the domestic C gate - i don't know how long they have been in there but they really add a lot of animation to the area

this one is just running an Audi commercial

received_10157677768865004 by snub_you, on Flickr

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

https://www.otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/ruling/2016-a-198

Colourful tail anyone

Planned start date is 30 June 2017. Daily flights.

Another daily flight to an exisiting destination... even though it's a new airline... yawn!

Amazing news!

It's honestly astounding how airlines keep announcing new routes to Vancouver that are daily! No edging in with 3 day service, just taking the plunge on a new daily.

I'm assuming this will be another A350-900 route for YVR, Does that make 2 or 3 now with no other service in Canada?

Originally Posted by nname

So with this and the reduction of London, does Hong Kong now the top international destination from YVR by seats?

Nearly, London just barely edges it out:



That said with the seasonal reductions London sees that I don't think Hong Kong sees, it might be smaller on an annual basis.

Also still not convinced AC is just ditching its slot at LHR, it just makes no sense, unless they plan on selling it.

[LeftCoaster]

http://www.airbus.com/galleries/photo-ga...0-900-hong-kong-airlines/?return_id=3170

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Nearly, London just barely edges it out:



That said with the seasonal reductions London sees that I don't think Hong Kong sees, it might be smaller on an annual basis.

Also still not convinced AC is just ditching its slot at LHR, it just makes no sense, unless they plan on selling it.

Where is Frankfurt on that list, I assume it would beat out AMS?

[CareerShow]

Is Cathay's 3rd daily 3 weekly flight on the a350 year round? If so 31 weekly flights year round seems like a lot of capacity on this route. Also does anyone know why Cathay continues their YVR JFK route? Is it successful passenger wise or is it related to the cargo on the route? I remember reading somewhere as well that the HKG - YVR - JFK flights are operated by a 4 class 77w while the HKG - YVR flights are no first and just business.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by connect2source

Where is Frankfurt on that list, I assume it would beat out AMS?

Right you are, looks like it got neglected entirely. Here's the list with Frankfurt added. It drops Mexico City & Sydney off the list.

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by CareerShow

Is Cathay's 3rd daily 3 weekly flight on the a350 year round? If so 31 weekly flights year round seems like a lot of capacity on this route. Also does anyone know why Cathay continues their YVR JFK route? Is it successful passenger wise or is it related to the cargo on the route? I remember reading somewhere as well that the HKG - YVR - JFK flights are operated by a 4 class 77w while the HKG - YVR flights are no first and just business.

Anecdotal evidence, but from the 4 times i've been on the YVR-JFK route on CX in the last 2 years, its never been a light load. 2 of these trips have been in Business and those times have been 100% load factor in J class. These were all taken at different times of the year. In-fact, trying to book an award flight on this route usually requires booking a few months in advance. I'm sure it does reasonably well. I hope it never goes away, its easily the best intra-continent flight we have here in North America.

Very interesting to see Hong Kong Airlines gunning for the YVR market as well. It will be very interesting to see how the market plays out next year. Tonnes of one-stop options via places like TPE/NRT/HND/PVG/PEK if journeying to HKG. The pricing strategy will be important for Hong Kong airlines to compete. The top-end is dominated of course by CX with their superior product all around. The bottom-end sees a huge variety of carrier fighting for connecting passengers, with mostly China Eastern winning in terms of pure price point. If they price similarly to MU/CA, and offer direct service. I think they'll have a successful operation.

[Klazu]

Hong Kong Airlines is a great addition and our 3rd A350 connection! Wow, they are really adding up quickly.

Hopefully We will see them offering their famous ridiculously cheap business class seats on this route as well!

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by whatnext

CP used to fly YVR-BOS.

If that route pays, I hope someone (like AC, cough, cough) picks it up again. It seems like a route where there would be a fair % of J class.

[SpongeG]

i saw this plane on wednesday at YVR, never got to take a pic of it myself - also saw it in calgary on sunday, special livery for Air Canada

from flickr
Air Canada (Trans Canada Airlines) | Airbus A319-114 | C-FZUH by Patrick Lundgren, on Flickr

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i saw this plane on wednesday at YVR, never got to take a pic of it myself - also saw it in calgary on sunday, special livery for Air Canada

from flickr
Air Canada (Trans Canada Airlines) | Airbus A319-114 | C-FZUH by Patrick Lundgren, on Flickr

Wow nice catch!! That TCA retro A319 has been around for a while, I rode on it YYC - YVR in 2001. Love the look of it!!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Hong Kong Airlines is a great addition and our 3rd A350 connection! Wow, they are really adding up quickly.

Hopefully We will see them offering their famous ridiculously cheap business class seats on this route as well!

Yes another great addition. Will see what the timing is when the official announcement is made.

This one was hard to keep a secret as scrolling back a few had figured it out

As for Hainan... still no indication what they will be doing with their remaining frequencies.

There are still some other things in the works but this was the most concrete one so far.

As for what AC will do with its LHR slot?! Who knows!!

Looks like CZ will be announcing MEX soon as well for an April 2017 start (a bit delayed) 3 weekly 788 flights. CZ has loaded 787s back in the system for the daily YVR-CAN flight but they usually revert back to a 77W... there has been a pattern developing now that they have flown here long enough.

Also waiting to see when Interjet announces there flights....

[POCO]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

https://www.otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/ruling/2016-a-198

Colourful tail anyone

Planned start date is 30 June 2017. Daily flights.

Another daily flight to an exisiting destination... even though it's a new airline... yawn!

Awesome! As someone planning to take that trip next year (outbound in February back in August) I happily welcome more competition on that route. Although I may pay a small premium to fly CX's A350...

Edit: didn't know that Hong Kong Airlines had A350's on the way. I'll be really interested to see the pricing seeing as AC and CX basically price match each other and they get quite high especially in the summer.

[mezzanine]

This is odd - on flyertalk reports of a partnership agreement between CX and AC for ticketing direct to thailand and vietnam and philippines and malaysia. all this a day before the hong kong airlines announcement.

-i wonder if this is just interlining or a fuller codeshare. Would star gold benefits carry over to the CX connections booked with AC?
-AC to BKK and other points in SE asia via CX? would there be anymore route development on AC's part to SE asia?

CX has been in financial trouble over the past several months - I wonder how this would work out for them...

[Gordon]

Are aC & CX not in competing alliances?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yes another great addition. Will see what the timing is when the official announcement is made.

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Also waiting to see when Interjet announces there flights....

Are you referring to YVR-MTY and GDL? Geez, that'd be a fantastic addition !!

[Speedbird1]

Originally Posted by mezzanine

This is odd - on flyertalk reports of a partnership agreement between CX and AC for ticketing direct to thailand and vietnam and philippines and malaysia. all this a day before the hong kong airlines announcement.

-i wonder if this is just interlining or a fuller codeshare. Would star gold benefits carry over to the CX connections booked with AC?
-AC to BKK and other points in SE asia via CX? would there be anymore route development on AC's part to SE asia?

CX has been in financial trouble over the past several months - I wonder how this would work out for them...

They've been doing this for a while for flights to India.. In the past AC connecting to CX was usually one of the cheapest options available to DEL (as well as to BOM and maybe others) on the Air Canada website. Not sure if that's still the case.

Also, happy to see HX pan out!.. although I'm much more excited about having an additional option to get to MEX with CZ. One potential issue with HX is that it appears that HX is currently scheduled to receive just 1 A359 (B-LGA) sometime around May or June. AerCap may have some unclaimed aircraft available still, but this may be HX requesting more than what they plan to operate.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Speedbird1

One potential issue with HX is that it appears that HX is currently scheduled to receive just 1 A359 (B-LGA) sometime around May or June. AerCap may have some unclaimed aircraft available still, but this may be HX requesting more than what they plan to operate.

Apparently they have something in the works / figured out.

[zahav]

I wonder if AC is considering making YVR-DEL year round. I know it's a very new route and relatively untested for a non-stop, but I wonder if that's where they might assign at least part of the 787 capacity from LHR? Note, AC is also dropping it's 2nd daily Paris flight, also a 787. So there is probably some new routes (or extensions of existing seasonal routes like DEL) in the process. Unless they just plan on sticking these aircraft on something boring like YYZ-YVR haha...

On another topic, has it been discussed if YVR ever considered building a 2nd airport hotel? I'm thinking somewhere like the economy lot just west of the parkade. Keep the economy lot on ground floor and maybe add a 2nd floor, and then hotel on top? I think the Fairmont is amazing, but it's $$ and higher end. I'm thinking a more mid-market hotel with reasonable rates. It would really have a big market I'd think. It could be connected to the parkade, and even a new overheard walkway directly across to the US terminal (not necessary if there's a good connectrion to the parkade direct through to the terminal entrance/skytrain). Even YYC now has two on-site airport hotels. The airspace above the Economy lot just seems like it could get good use from something like this