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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 8:33 PM
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Any mention of traffic always = bridges. Lonsdale itself is actually great for traffic because you can't go anywhere from here so it's all local.
Well, maybe residents should see that if North Vancouver becomes more self-contained, with more work, commercial, retail and residential spaces created in a denser city centre core, then perhaps less people would have to use the bridge. More people can even make use of public transit at the Lonsdale neighbourhood, like adding more buses along Lonsdale Avenue and up to two more seabuses to ply the Burrard Inlet crossing.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2016, 12:22 AM
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Took a few photos today.

Grosvenor Ambleside

Grosvenor Ambleside, West Vancouver by chrisjohann, on Flickr

Grosvenor Ambleside, West Vancouver by chrisjohann, on Flickr

A 360 panorama of The Shore from the courtyard. Doesn't really do it justice, looks much better in person.

The Shore panorama, North Vancouver by chrisjohann, on Flickr

And from the LoLo thread

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West Quay update. Third tower confirmed

West Quay, North Vancouver by chrisjohann, on Flickr
Bonus nature shot. Very happy with the photo quality on my new phone

West Vancouver by chrisjohann, on Flickr

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Old Posted Oct 31, 2016, 7:17 PM
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Thanks for the update. The buildings at The Shore look terrific, but I'm not sure about this "West Coast piazza" space. Why would anyone want to spend time on a small paved surface surrounded by a giant access road?
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2016, 7:50 PM
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The entrances to the parkade are before the plaza so it's a nice quiet space unless some nerd decides to take panorama shots.

Also to anyone wondering about Whole Foods on Lonsdale, I asked a NS News reporter to look into it (we talk on twitter quite a bit) and he said it's scheduled to open in 2018. That seems a bit late?
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2016, 10:04 PM
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The entrances to the parkade are before the plaza so it's a nice quiet space unless some nerd decides to take panorama shots.

Also to anyone wondering about Whole Foods on Lonsdale, I asked a NS News reporter to look into it (we talk on twitter quite a bit) and he said it's scheduled to open in 2018. That seems a bit late?
That's the date they gave in 2014:

http://www.nsnews.com/news/whole-foods-to-replace-safeway-at-lonsdale-and-13th-1.893942
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Old Posted Nov 3, 2016, 8:07 AM
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@NVdistrict says it needs just a couple dry days to finish and open the new Keith Road Bridge. So..... April then?

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2016, 9:18 PM
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Looks like Park Royal has given up on towers on the southwest corner of Marine and Taylor way for the medium term:



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More parking for Park Royal but tower development question lingers

The White Spot restaurant at Marine Drive and Taylor Way will be demolished to make way for temporary parking following a council decision Monday. photo Mike Wakefield, North Shore News
It may one day be residential towers, but for now, the corner of Taylor Way and Marine Drive in West Vancouver will just be parking.

District of West Vancouver council voted unanimously Monday night to approve Park Royal’s request to demolish the old White Spot restaurant and revamp the space to hold an additional 38 spaces as well as improve the landscaping around the site.

The temporary parking permit granted Monday night is valid for up to three years with the option to extend for another three-year term.

The mall’s management has for years been looking to redevelop that corner of the property, with the last proposal being for 27-storey and 12-storey towers containing 251 condo units. But in April, council told the developers to come back with a proposal for shorter towers and a more robust traffic reduction plan. That application is now effectively in stasis until the developers come back with a plan more in line with council’s wishes.

“The old White Spot is a forlorn building and it’s only going to improve things to take it down and provide more parking in the short-term and we’ll see what happens in the medium to long-term,” said Coun. Craig Cameron.

Although every member of council was in favour, Coun. Nora Gambioli expressed disappointment that the temporary parking use runs counter to the district’s transportation goals, in that it simply encourages more use of single-occupancy vehicles without any consideration for reserving space there for carpool parking, or car-sharing services.

Park Royal does have long-term plans for such things, including bike sharing and a bicycle valet, as part of its larger strategy for the area, according to Rick Amantea, Park Royal’s vice-president.

“At this stage of the game, it’s really about getting a derelict building off that corner and improving the landscaping and just making it a little bit more hospitable than it is today,” he said.

Park Royal does already offer park-and-ride spots and hosts transit shelters on its property, Amantea added.

Frustration about the existing bottleneck of vehicles trying to cram onto the Lions Gate Bridge remains, particularly for Coun. Bill Soprovich who was dismayed to hear from staff that rejigging the traffic signals at Taylor Way and Marine Drive is not on the table, as it is a provincially controlled intersection that borders on Squamish Nation land.

“What about the people that are sitting in gridlock all the time, which is getting worse? Are we not obligated in West Vancouver to step up in relationship to the situation we have with … transportation and growth in the area? Is it not some of our responsibility, rather than say it’s other jurisdictions?” he asked.

The Ministry of Transportation won’t “lift their finger” to do anything about nearby traffic patterns, he added and similarly, there are no solid plans for improved transit coming to West Vancouver.

- See more at: http://www.nsnews.com/news/more-parking-...-1.2546206#sthash.jTNQjWSO.ufK6V3yw.dpuf
This was the last render I think. Screwed over by poor infrastructure investment again



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Old Posted Nov 9, 2016, 10:17 PM
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If I were Park Royal, I would get this approved before the mess from all the new Capilano Road development appears (even if they take it into account in their traffic models)
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2016, 11:23 PM
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The note about 'no solid plans for transit expansion' is incorrect. The north shore will be getting a B-Line from Dundarave -> Phibbs Exchange in the very near future, so long as Phase 1 of the Mayor's Plan is approved (very likely).
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2016, 12:00 AM
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The note about 'no solid plans for transit expansion' is incorrect. The north shore will be getting a B-Line from Dundarave -> Phibbs Exchange in the very near future, so long as Phase 1 of the Mayor's Plan is approved (very likely).
But if Marine Drive is clogged how will the B-Line help. It's not as if service is slow because the buses are making too many stops (which is the problem most of the other B-Lines eliminate).

Also, it's asinine that they have buses going from Lonsdale to downtown that are packed because the SeaBus is some magical two zone over the water. (Even though the SeaBus is already fairly maxed out during peak hours)
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2016, 12:20 AM
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But if Marine Drive is clogged how will the B-Line help. It's not as if service is slow because the buses are making too many stops (which is the problem most of the other B-Lines eliminate).

Also, it's asinine that they have buses going from Lonsdale to downtown that are packed because the SeaBus is some magical two zone over the water. (Even though the SeaBus is already fairly maxed out during peak hours)
Introduce HOV and bus lanes.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2016, 1:50 AM
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As always the bridge is the traffic issue, not local north shore traffic. One lane from West Van to North Van on Marine more than handles the cross-north shore traffic. A b-line is nice but doesn't address the obvious problem.
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2016, 1:16 PM
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An "architect and urban planner" won the vacated seat on West Van council yesterday. Hopefully that means a step in the right direction.

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“People want to see revitalization and so do I. People are prepared to see growth, and so am I. But people also want to protect the essential character of this community, and so do I.”
See more at: http://www.nsnews.com/news/breaking-pete...-1.2961944#sthash.KbFfKMvl.m5MThXij.dpuf
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2016, 10:19 PM
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The first new rental housing development in 40 years in West Vancouver is coming up for council approval on November 28. It's called Hollyburn Gardens and it will supply 41 rental apartments in two low-rise buildings, a 3 storey and a 3 1/2 storey. It'll be at 195 21st Street.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2016, 12:34 PM
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Have we seen this render of the Seaspan HQ at the south end of Pemberton?



Regardless, I think it's already topped out. The only time I can see it is at the top of the 2nd st overpass though.

One day I'll drive down there and get a real photo.

Also, posted this in the Seylynn Village thread

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Compass update. Smaller building with pool/gym etc is completely done (or very close). Couldn't get a good angle of that one now that Compass is growing.

Seylynn Village, North Vancouver by chrisjohann, on Flickr

Keith Road Bridge still can't fully open because they need three days without rain and that hasn't happened for many weeks.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2016, 7:43 AM
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DNV council members looking to kill additional density. Although they are right about traffic - too bad they can't work with the province/etc. to get that fixed instead of treating the symptoms.

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The District of North Vancouver is giving its master plan a second look as the community goes through some growing pains.
Council passed a motion Monday night to conduct a high-level review of its official community plan starting in 2017.


The motion came from Coun. Lisa Muri who argued many of the laudable goals in the 2011 OCP were not coming to fruition. The plan emphasized protection of the environment, greater choice in housing options, jobs and improved public transportation. But, she said, since that time, traffic has worsened, property values have only gone up, industrial land has been lost to redevelopment and businesses have been displaced, all while the effects of construction have sapped quality of life for existing residents. A moratorium on new developments would give council time to assess the impacts of the hundreds of units already approved or under construction, she argued.

It would be dishonest and disingenuous if we continue to allow consideration of (development) applications ahead of this review. It is not just about the built form. It is about all people from all different backgrounds from socioeconomic abilities that make this community rich and prosperous. We need to think outside the box. We need to slow down,” she said.

During council’s public input period, a string of community members, particularly those from the Edgemont and Upper Capilano area beseeched council to pass Muri’s motion.

Coun. Jim Hanson was sympathetic to the plea.

“If we’re just planning to build our way out of the issues of traffic, housing unaffordability and the scarcity of industrial employment lands, it’s not going to work. We need a new strategy,” he said.

Coun. Doug MacKay-Dunn too said the OCP would stand to benefit from some fresh study, especially as more census data starts being released in 2017.

“No plan ever survives implementation. Anybody who’s ever served in the military or a paramilitary organization knows this. You have to change the plan based on new information,” he said.

But, while council was largely receptive to a fresh look at the OCP, there was no consensus that there should be a moratorium on development.

The challenges experienced by the district are happening all over the Lower Mainland and to some extent, major cities around the world, Coun. Robin Hick countered. Stepping away from the OCP for the pleasure of people today would defeat the purpose of the forward-looking document, he added.

“It’s for the benefit of our children and our grandchildren – not necessarily the people who are living here now and I think the people living here now have to accept the fact that we’re going to have a lot more people coming here, a lot more challenges of affordability, but the work that we’re doing now is to accommodate those future people,” he said.

Coun. Mathew Bond, the only person from the post-baby boomer generation to be elected on the North Shore, also took issue with the implication.

“When I hear sentiment around the table that favours keeping things the same, for many, many young people, that means we have no opportunity to live in North Vancouver,” he said.

Part of the OCP’s purpose was to woo back the “missing generation” of young people who would work, start businesses and raise families. Cutting off the supply of new housing stock would send the message that millennials aren’t particularly missed, he said.

“It’s not just the generation that were lucky enough to buy their homes 20 or 30 years ago and are now sitting on a massive amount of wealth. It’s their children. It’s your children,” he said.

And if high housing costs are a problem now, just wait until the district experiments with restricting supply, Coun. Roger Bassam warned.

“We’re fighting against demand and market forces trying to create affordability and we’re suggesting, somehow, limiting supply might help that? That’s simply not going to work,” he said.

In the end, the vote to review the OCP passed with only Bassam opposed. The motion, however, did not amount to a freezing of development applications until the review is complete, much to Muri’s dismay. Council will hold a special meeting to set the parameters of the review, including whether to freeze development applications. Muri said she will also push council to revive its OCP implementation committee, which has been disbanded.

- See more at: http://www.nsnews.com/news/district-of-n...onal-rift-1.3179345#sthash.qyXvLSii.dpuf
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2016, 11:22 PM
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They've started pilings for the new Pier projects at Lonsdale and they're doing foundation work on the waterfront lot condos as well.
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At first read I thought this was a good thing - they had realised they need to build more, but upon reading it again I realised that they actually want to further decrease development . Even though I don't live in the c=City of North Vancouver proper I will for sure be going to the hearings and bringing my friends to speak in favour of more density
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An OCP review isn't necessarily a bad thing, however in this case it seems like it is only happening in order to slow things down in certain areas. Lisa Muri and her ilk have no issues with building towers at Seylynn or Lower Capilano as they don't live there and/or there are few voters to tick off in those areas. But a 22 unit townhouse development in Edgemont Village? God forbid! Pull up the drawbridge!

This is incredibly disappointing and these notions will obviously only worsen affordability in North Vancouver. Also, those traffic issues? The single-family housing redevelopment is the main cause for that congestion.
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I think they're anti-development across the board including at lower Capilano..
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