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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 9:42 AM
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Post Cathay Pacific bids fond farewell to Boeing 747

don't know if this was posted, but this marks the end of an era!

Cathay Pacific bids fond farewell to Boeing 747

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The B747 helped drive Cathay's expansion to multiple new destinations during the 1980s, including London, Paris, Rome and Vancouver
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 1:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odAHH5AkqRE

Here is a recording of the live ATC between BA286 and ATC.

Pretty much confirms YVR was selected due to being more suitable for ground handling... A380 capable.

BA84 YVR-LHR also speaks to BA286 in this audio clip.
so what exactly happened to the crew? Was it like in Foo Fighters' Learn to Fly video lol?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 1:51 PM
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don't know if this was posted, but this marks the end of an era!

Cathay Pacific bids fond farewell to Boeing 747


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UPS and Boeing announced an order yesterday for 14 747-8F's. They stated that they new planes will be utilised for US-Europe and US-Asia cargo, but who knows, maybe they'll pop into YVR from time to time.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...eing-s-queen-of-the-skies-with-747-order
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 3:44 PM
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Does the end of the Boeing 747 including the 747-8i model ???
I thought it was going to be around a while.

Also, what's the capacity difference between the 747_8i and the 777-300?

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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 4:32 PM
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Lufthansa is continuing it's 744 service to YVR into next summer
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 8:32 PM
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Any idea on when the "few new announcements" could be made? Nov? before year end? next year? thought i read "soon"...
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 8:36 PM
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Any idea on when the announcement of a new airline at yvr could be made? Nov? before year end? next year? thought i read "soon"...
Ask Johnny. He would know if anyone would. Right, J.A.?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2016, 10:47 PM
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Does the end of the Boeing 747 including the 747-8i model ???
I thought it was going to be around a while.
Most definitely not. The 747-8s are brand new and will be around for a long time. Issue is that there are very few operators and due to poor orders production was slated to be halted after all current orders were completed. But with this UPS 787-8F order yesterday, it looks like production may continue! This is great news as Airbus ceased offering an A380 freighter version last year due to poor orders. The 747-8F offers the largest available capacity out of new aircraft being produced and is hopefully going to see more orders to come. Ideally this will spark more interest in the passenger version
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2016, 12:26 AM
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Most definitely not. The 747-8s are brand new and will be around for a long time. Issue is that there are very few operators and due to poor orders production was slated to be halted after all current orders were completed. But with this UPS 787-8F order yesterday, it looks like production may continue! This is great news as Airbus ceased offering an A380 freighter version last year due to poor orders. The 747-8F offers the largest available capacity out of new aircraft being produced and is hopefully going to see more orders to come. Ideally this will spark more interest in the passenger version
The theory behind the UPS order is UPS is seeing a shift in demand from high margin overnight to 2 day e-Commerce delivery (all that Amazon Prime stuff). That means it needs to adjust to higher cargo volumes, less frequent trips and at a lower price point. More optimized mix of air/ground. That means bigger aircraft.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2016, 3:31 AM
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The theory behind the UPS order is UPS is seeing a shift in demand from high margin overnight to 2 day e-Commerce delivery (all that Amazon Prime stuff). That means it needs to adjust to higher cargo volumes, less frequent trips and at a lower price point. More optimized mix of air/ground. That means bigger aircraft.
Until Amazon's "Prime Air" takes all that sweet sweet amazon traffic away from them.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2016, 6:07 PM
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Until Amazon's "Prime Air" takes all that sweet sweet amazon traffic away from them.
it is amazing how quickly Amazon has integrated so many aspects of its business. The Prime Air came out of nowhere a few months ago. The plan for 2,000 physical grocery stores in the US is another.

The Prime service is putting pressure on other retailers to offer the same. Most other retailers cant build their own airline from free cash flow. UPS has those, but I agree longer term as Prime Air builds out it is going to be difficult for UPS and FedEx.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2016, 10:55 PM
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Ask Johnny. He would know if anyone would. Right, J.A.?
I don't have an exact date but the next major announcement should be quite "soon." CZ should also be officially announcing MEX very soon too.

Still some rouge stuff to sort out as there is still unused capacity on a couple of their planes.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2016, 11:23 PM
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I don't have an exact date but the next major announcement should be quite "soon." CZ should also be officially announcing MEX very soon too.
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Still some rouge stuff ..............
Wow, Cathy adding Mexico City, too. Will this mean Air Canada, Aeromexico, and now Cathy doing the YVR-MEX route? I wish we could snag a MTY and / or GDL scheduled route.
     
     
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CZ is China Southern, not Cathay Pacific (CX).
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2016, 1:50 AM
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CZ is China Southern, not Cathay Pacific (CX).
Excuse me. Oh well, I was close.

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Kinda quiet in here, so until the announcement of Johnny's colourful surprise (or any other surprises) I'll put up all the summaries I've completed, in order of size.

YYZ:


SFO:


YVR:


YUL:


DFW:



SEA:


YYC:


Pretty easy to see each airports specialty, (YYZ and SFO are broad based, DFW is Latin American, YUL Europe, YVR is Asia etc...)

Working on the beast (LAX) and IAH right now.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2016, 11:10 PM
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For YYZ - Total Airlines: 384???

nvm.. you corrected it
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2016, 11:13 PM
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Haha ya it was pulling from the wrong cell.

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Old Posted Nov 1, 2016, 12:19 AM
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For a city of our size (roughly 2.5m metro) that's pretty darn good!! Of course what puts us in there is the preponderance of Asia-Pacific flights. London is good, but Europe a little lacking.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2016, 1:58 AM
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I don't have an exact date but the next major announcement should be quite "soon." CZ should also be officially announcing MEX very soon too.

Still some rouge stuff to sort out as there is still unused capacity on a couple of their planes.
Interesting. Third carrier to operate YVR-MEX.

Their Skyteam partner, AM is soon increasing to 10x weekly on MEX-YVR.

AC is at daily on the route. That will be a lot of capacity increase in a short while. Not that it's the main reason why they will start the route.

MEX-CAN non stop isn't doable, so a fuel stop is required anyways. I can see YVR's appeal over LAX or SFO.
     
     
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