YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[nname]

Seems like AC had added second YVR-SAN flight for the month of April next year, so they would run the route 13x weekly (second flight x6). I would assume the second flight would extend through the summer?

So with westjet, YVR-SAN had gone from no flight last spring to 3 flights on some days...

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by SFTransplant

Don't forget SF has 3 international airports with Oakland now picking up many nonstop European routes that SFO simply doesn't have room for at this point... Not intending to provoke a city vs. city (or rather airport vs. airport) but comparing SFO and YVR is apples to oranges since it takes 3 intl airports to accommodate the Bay Area...

Two years ago, SFO had a nonstop to Lima on LAN which I had very high hopes for but it faded quickly. I'm continually perplexed (and frustrated) by the difficulty airlines have in non stops from the west coast to South America

You are right all three need to be combined... OAK and SJC have some decent int'l connections and seem to be attracting a lot of new ones lately...

But the fact remains for a city as small as Vancouver to have so much international connectivity is phenomenal. Even if 80% of the SF area Asia Pacific traffic would be incredible for a city less than 30% its size. I'm still impressed YVR's Asia Pacific traffic is almost as high as SFO's.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by SFTransplant

Don't forget SF has 3 international airports with Oakland now picking up many nonstop European routes that SFO simply doesn't have room for at this point... Not intending to provoke a city vs. city (or rather airport vs. airport) but comparing SFO and YVR is apples to oranges since it takes 3 intl airports to accommodate the Bay Area.(

Maybe I'm missing something here, but when I look at OAK and SJC international traffic I don't think about major competition for SFO.

OAK is a hub for Norwegian with less than daily services to 3 year round destinations and another 2 summer seasonal.

SJC has BA and LH Cityline to Europe. Their Asia traffic is more impressive At PEK, PVG, and NRT. Five daily flights hardly sounds impressive for a world gateway region.

SFO could easily handle all the TransAt and TansPac flights from the other two airports, although I guess this would impact domestic operations at A and G concourses. There would be a knock effect of making the terminal 1 renovations that much harder.

[Klazu]

I don't think it has been mentioned before, but I just came back from dropping someone at the airport and it looked to me like they changed all the road sign on the way to the airport all the way from north of Arthur Laing Bridge. I don't recall everything being in English and French before.

They have also added a lot more signs for the outlet which is now called Vancouver Airport Designer Outlet. Don't recall that name earlier either.

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I don't think it has been mentioned before, but I just came back from dropping someone at the airport and it looked to me like they changed all the road sign on the way to the airport all the way from north of Arthur Laing Bridge. I don't recall everything being in English and French before.

They have also added a lot more signs for the outlet which is now called Vancouver Airport Designer Outlet. Don't recall that name earlier either.

Is this in vancouver or sea island?
Sea Island has always had bilingual signs, vancouver proper....no

[Klazu]

On Sea Island. I have driven to airport quite a few times and I can almost swear all the signs are new, but perhaps I am imagining things.

[POCO]

Just checked streetview. They've been bilingual since atleast August 2015.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

Seems like AC had added second YVR-SAN flight for the month of April next year, so they would run the route 13x weekly (second flight x6). I would assume the second flight would extend through the summer?

So with westjet, YVR-SAN had gone from no flight last spring to 3 flights on some days...

Yes indeed. AC's summer schedule runs May - October (give or take) so this may indicate once the summer schedule starts to roll out we may in fact see this go double daily year-round. AC must see this as a successful route... It definitely was the largest unserved transborder route from YVR prior to its re-launch.

AC has a pattern of rolling out its international summer schedule first (normally September through November - eg last year YVR-DUB was announced in late November) then doing North America a few months later.

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by Klazu

On Sea Island. I have driven to airport quite a few times and I can almost swear all the signs are new, but perhaps I am imagining things.

Originally Posted by POCO

Just checked streetview. They've been bilingual since atleast August 2015.

Pretty sure they were bilingual since i was a kid? These are the blue signs right?
At age 5 i remember helping my mom drive back home to kensington after dropping dad off at the airport for a business trip. Mom just didn't know her way around town except for work and safeway.

I imagine the airport signage is the same requirement as national parks. (EG....banff national park) I read somewhere that signs issued by the Federal Govt are required to be Bilingual.

Perhaps you are right Klazu as they might have made a change that made the french language more apparent, but i assure you as a kid its always been there. I just havent been back in Vancouver for the last ten years at least.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by moosejaw

Pretty sure they were bilingual since i was a kid? These are the blue signs right?
At age 5 i remember helping my mom drive back home to kensington after dropping dad off at the airport for a business trip. Mom just didn't know her way around town except for work and safeway.

I imagine the airport signage is the same requirement as national parks. (EG....banff national park) I read somewhere that signs issued by the Federal Govt are required to be Bilingual.

Perhaps you are right Klazu as they might have made a change that made the french language more apparent, but i assure you as a kid its always been there. I just havent been back in Vancouver for the last ten years at least.

You're right. The signs have probably been bilingual on federal property since the late 70s-early 80s at least.

[SFUVancouver]

Perhaps a long-shot, but a colourful tail that's a pretty plausible get for YVR could be Hawaiian:



[Edit] Solved!

Thank you moosejaw for the assist.

[moosejaw]

Here you go SFU

[trofirhen]

what aircraft type is that, anyway?

[jmt18325]

Isn't that an A330?

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

Isn't that an A330?

Yes, an A330-200.

More specifically, it's an Airbus A330-243, registered N392HA, and operated by Hawaiian Airlines.

It is 3.6 years old, came off the assembly line in Toulouse and had its first flight on the 22nd of March, 2013, and it was delivered to lessor HKAC on the 11th of April, 2013. It is currently leased from Avalon.

In Hawaiian Airlines service, it goes by the special fleet name Hikianalia and it just got a temporary promotional livery for the Disney film Moana.

[abbymk]

One airline I haven't seen mentioned is Asiana. Not a colourful plane but the tail has a lot of colour.

[excel]

The signage has always been bilingual but went through upgrades shortly after the Canada line was finished and again more recently with more legible signs.

[nname]

Wait wait... I thought Johnny said its an Asian carrier


Anyways, rumors are going around that MU would start KMG-NKG-YVR on Dec 20th...

And... a Chinese news site mentioned that Canada and China both agreed to have more talk about the bilateral in 2017, and... also mentioned that Air Canada is studying the potential of new routes to some secondary Chinese airports.

Source in Chinese

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by nname

Wait wait... I thought Johnny said its an Asian carrier

Oops. Missed that hint. I haven't been reading the forum as steadily as normal.

[Johnny Aussie]

BA286 SFO-LHR has diverted to YVR.

Approx 2 hours into the flight over South western Saskatchewan, the flight turned WNW then WSW and landed in YVR about 15 mins ago.

It looked like it was going to head for YYC but turned WSW then headed straight for YVR.

If I learn anything more I'll post it.

Looks like it just parked at D64. A medical emergency.