YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 510

LeftCoaster · #**10181** Posted **Oct 17, 2016, 10:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Canadian74

I suspect a lot of Y tickets are being sold by travel agents and people haven't selected their seats yet, waiting until check-in ?

The intro prices were genuinely good so I'm sure Y will be quite full this season

Is that a thing? I thought one could pick a seat immediately with a Y purchase for an international flight. Has than changed?

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Interesting that the dollar value of $100million was put out there as the price of a Dreamliner; that's less than half its list price. It pulls back the curtain a bit on Air Canada's discount from Boeing.

Good catch, I didn't even pick up on that. That's a huge discount if accurate.

SFUVancouver · #**10182** Posted **Oct 17, 2016, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Good catch, I didn't even pick up on that. That's a huge discount if accurate.

Agreed! That's less than the list price of a B739ER, if I'm not mistaken.

I was just poking around the Boeing website to see if I could find list prices for the different Dreamliner models and I noticed something neat: real-time Dreamliner flight-tracking using Flightaware data.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787/#/flight-tracker

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**10183** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 12:32 AM**

does anyone know when YVR's future plan for the airport coming out? i remember reading it was sometime in October this year.

casper · #**10184** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 12:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Is that a thing? I thought one could pick a seat immediately with a Y purchase for an international flight. Has than changed?

One can, that does not mean one does. The travel agent has to book the ticket and then go in and assign a seat. If the customer does not ask for a seat assignment the travel agent is not required to assign one. In many overseas markets it also common with many airlines to not do seat assignments.

Seat assignments also get screwed up by codeshare and connecting tickets. For example a ticket issued on united stock from say San Francisco to Vancouver connecting to India. You can assign seats on the United flight, but to do the same on the Air Canada segment, you have to call United, get them to give you the PNR number in Air Canada then call Air Canada.

Johnny Aussie · #**10185** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 2:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

does anyone know when YVR's future plan for the airport coming out? i remember reading it was sometime in October this year.

You are right... Official announcements on a few things are not far away.

Lots of colourful and exciting times ahead!!

Don't you just hate having to wait!!?

As for YVR-DEL, no question huge demand but as discussed... Will wait and see if it will meet AC's targets.

Good to see they are highlighting the fastest elapsed flying times from YYC, YEG, SEA, PDX and LAX are via YVR. Some relatively large South Asian communities in those cities.

Hot Rod · #**10186** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 2:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Is that a thing? I thought one could pick a seat immediately with a Y purchase for an international flight. Has than changed?

Good catch, I didn't even pick up on that. That's a huge discount if accurate.

it's no surprise that Boeing doesn't make any money on the 787. There was an article in the Seattle Times which stated that Boeing loses at least $26M per airplane on the 787.

The big money maker for Boeing is the 777 and to a lesser extent the 737.

casper · #**10187** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 4:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod

it's no surprise that Boeing doesn't make any money on the 787. There was an article in the Seattle Times which stated that Boeing loses at least $26M per airplane on the 787.

The big money maker for Boeing is the 777 and to a lesser extent the 737.

They were very late with the 787. They had to pay compensation to ah Canada and others. Some of the 777 and 767 were discounted as comoensation

Speedbird1 · #**10188** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 5:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

You are right... Official announcements on a few things are not far away.

Lots of colourful and exciting times ahead!!

Don't you just hate having to wait!!?

Makes me curious about whether Qantas might be one of the airlines being alluded to.. they're supposed to be making announcements regarding routes and seating on the 789s on Oct. 27.

Johnny Aussie · #**10189** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 5:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Speedbird1

Makes me curious about whether Qantas might be one of the airlines being alluded to.. they're supposed to be making announcements regarding routes and seating on the 789s on Oct. 27.

Speculation is rife with YVR being one of the new QF 789 routes... The first route is going to be on an exisiting year-round Australia-Asia route.... but one of the "new" routes may in fact be SYD-YVR.

The route I'm alluding to is a new airline for YVR...

excel · #**10190** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 5:29 AM**

Virgin Australia?

Johnny Aussie · #**10191** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 6:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by excel

Virgin Australia?

Hmmmm.... not quite colourful enough!

trofirhen · #**10192** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 7:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Speculation is rife with YVR being one of the new QF 789 routes... The first route is going to be on an exisiting year-round Australia-Asia route.... but one of the "new" routes may in fact be SYD-YVR.

The route I'm alluding to is a new airline for YVR...

Jetstar?

excel · #**10193** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 7:49 AM**

^That would be awesome. It would be Jetstars first mainland NA destination. (Honolulu being their only current NA destination)

Johnny Aussie · #**10194** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 8:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Jetstar?

Hmmmm... MEL-HNL-YVR on JQ and SYD-YVR on QF.

trofirhen · #**10195** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 1:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Hmmmm... MEL-HNL-YVR on JQ and SYD-YVR on QF.

Nah! I take it all back. Why? You said these planes would be pretty and colorful, and Jetstar is pale grey with black and orange ... blecch .... the morning after of Hallowe'en

Canadian74 · #**10196** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 5:18 PM**

It would be nice to have Thai A350

LeftCoaster · #**10197** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by casper

One can, that does not mean one does. The travel agent has to book the ticket and then go in and assign a seat. If the customer does not ask for a seat assignment the travel agent is not required to assign one. In many overseas markets it also common with many airlines to not do seat assignments.

Seat assignments also get screwed up by codeshare and connecting tickets. For example a ticket issued on united stock from say San Francisco to Vancouver connecting to India. You can assign seats on the United flight, but to do the same on the Air Canada segment, you have to call United, get them to give you the PNR number in Air Canada then call Air Canada.

Interesting. I'v never used a travel agency before. That sounds like a huge hassle, but I guess worth the savings of not booking from the airline website.

Well hopefully economy is in fact full, because like I said, the business cabin was surprisingly well sold (easily half full at rates of $4,000 one way).

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Speculation is rife with YVR being one of the new QF 789 routes... The first route is going to be on an exisiting year-round Australia-Asia route.... but one of the "new" routes may in fact be SYD-YVR.

The route I'm alluding to is a new airline for YVR...

Qantas certainly seems like a when not if, and a pretty immanent when too. That said I will miss the 744s when they pull them off the YVR route.

vanlaw · #**10198** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 10:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Hmmmm.... not quite colourful enough!

Might be a long shot, but could Southwest be planning expansion to Canada? There was a G&M article a couple years back about their desire to do so. Definitely a colourful vertical stabiliser. Notwithstanding that my money is on Thai given the previous discussions on it.

Speedbird1 · #**10199** Posted **Oct 18, 2016, 11:40 PM**

Going off of the a.net post this morning about Air India expanding their North America services, is there a possibility they might be about to tack on their own flights to here?

casper · #**10200** Posted **Oct 19, 2016, 12:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Interesting. I'v never used a travel agency before. That sounds like a huge hassle, but I guess worth the savings of not booking from the airline website.

Well hopefully economy is in fact full, because like I said, the business cabin was surprisingly well sold (easily half full at rates of $4,000 one way).

Same problem exists if you book online. If you book a flight on Air Canada that includes a Lufthansa or United connection, you can't pick the seats on the Air Canada site. You need to get the locator and go to the other airlines website.

All said, I don't know how the flight is doing. I also hope they are filling it up.