The Ultimate Vancouver Rumour Thread!

[logan5]

The rumour trick wouldn't be so disappointing if the Broadway Commercial plan wasn't so disappointing.

When you look at all the transit options that station will have, there should be no less than FSR 10 for sites that close to the station. after about 10 or 12 stories, heights are irrelevant. Person on the street simply doesn't notice the extra height, and shadows from taller buildings are cast into the buildings across from them.

[giallo]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

5.7 is not that high for that height of a building

Highest density for that area then? I'm just trying to read between the lines of jlousa's post.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by logan5

Your posts crack me up. The genuine anger you articulate is hilarious, but you still hold on to some hope that, one day, one of these rumours might actually come true. As usual, in the end... disappointment.

That's so funny. I was the only one to state categorically that if the rumour was not a trick, then it was complete ignorance to get the least bit excited about this, since there is no hope that such a proposal would ever be approved by this city council. I quote from my reaction to the trick and everyone's excitement about it:

Originally Posted by Prometheus

Seriously, anyone who is actually getting excited about this is out to lunch. If the proposal is for Vancouver proper (i.e., the City of Vancouver) and is of a height and density that is unlikely to get surpassed, then the proposed height and density being rumoured about will never be approved under current city policy and leadership.

Contrasted with your reaction, speaking of hope and hilarity:

Originally Posted by logan5

Hope your right. We need a game changer. Well served by transit? Maybe a Waterfront Hub proposal?

[logan5]

Contrasted with your reaction, speaking of hope and hilarity..

Contrasted by this...

Originally Posted by logan5

Logically, we would have to pick a site DT that has no height restrictions, but is also well served by transit.

Originally Posted by logan5

What's that building at the SW corner of Georgia and Burrard? It looks like the western half of that site allows for a 700 footer. It's pretty close to Burrard Station. Though 700 feet doesn't seem like something that wouldn't be "surpassed".

Your posts are funny. Nothing wrong with that.

[Metro-One]

For the Commercial Broadway proposal I am guessing three towers, tallest being 25 floors?

That seems bland and uneventful enough for Van proper on the regions busiest transit hub.

While Burnaby is routinely building and proposing 150 meter + towers around their train stations....

[red-paladin]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

For the Commercial Broadway proposal I am guessing three towers, tallest being 25 floors?

That seems bland and uneventful enough for Van proper on the regions busiest transit hub.

While Burnaby is routinely building and proposing 150 meter + towers around their train stations....

This was the initial concept in 2013 and even it's too small for that site in my mind...


From: http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/07/tall-buildings-coming-to-commercial-drive/

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

there should be 200-250m towers on that site. Millennium-Line from UBC to the TriCities, with connections to the Canada-Line from Richmond, YVR, and Downtown. then the Expo-Line from Downtown to Langley. all of the GVRD will have direct SkyTrain access, and we are building small crappy 🞵🞵🞵 buildings. for a city that wants to promote non-personal-car modes of transportation, they certainly don't build all that much when given the opportunity. if only the site owners would sit on this property until a real council that has competency comes into power that actually wants to make the most of this opportunity. same thing with the proposal for the Edgewater Casino, (that proposal from England), if someone would just sit on it until a better council comes along, there can be such an opportunity.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by logan5

Your posts crack me up. The genuine anger you articulate is hilarious, but you still hold on to some hope that, one day, one of these rumours might actually come true. As usual, in the end... disappointment.

The hyperbole used by certain segments on this site is pretty funny. Don't take it too seriously, it's like the flip side of the typical SJW on social media.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

For a city that wants to promote non-personal-car modes of transportation, they certainly don't build all that much when given the opportunity.

That is because their desire to maintain political power outweighs their desire to implement the most rational (but militantly contested) urban plans. They fear (wrongly, I believe) that if they stood-up for the most intelligent and rational forms of land use for this site (and many others across the city), they would alienate their political base and lose their hold on council, their final criterion of decision-making.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by logan5

The rumour trick wouldn't be so disappointing if the Broadway Commercial plan wasn't so disappointing.

When you look at all the transit options that station will have, there should be no less than FSR 10 for sites that close to the station. after about 10 or 12 stories, heights are irrelevant. Person on the street simply doesn't notice the extra height, and shadows from taller buildings are cast into the buildings across from them.

With what's being built or planned to be built around suburb city skytrain stations such as Brighouse, Lansdowne, Gilmore, Brentwood, Lougheed, Surrey Central, etc, Vancouver needs to save some face and probably has a change of heart now to allow the redevelopment of the Commercial-Broadway Safeway site to make it go much taller. They have already been softening on areas such as Joyce-Collingwood and Marine Gateway as these are the gateway stations into this relatively backward city. I expect Renfrew area to get higher FSR proposals soon too.

Originally Posted by red-paladin

This was the initial concept in 2013 and even it's too small for that site in my mind...


From: http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/07/tall-buildings-coming-to-commercial-drive/

Small only relative to the projects going on in the suburbs. I'm sure everyone would find this a pretty large project prior to 2010 before the announcements of those mega-projects in the burbs. Even now there are forumers here who oppose to having anything tall built outside downtown Vancouver. So go figure.

[bb1510]

I heard from a friend in the industry that a Foster + Partners tower is in the works and will be launched next/the year after. He couldn't disclose anymore information. He did say that the developer was starting at $1750 psf.

He mentioned that there were multiple pipelines in terms of projects that Foster + Partners is working on in Vancouver.

Anyone know anymore information regarding this as well as where the possible location is?

[urbancanadian]

Looks like we can confirm the site jlousa was talking about? I cannot wait to see what is planned! The bigger the better for this regionally significant site, IMO. If I missed someone else posting the info on this then I appologize, I haven't been following SSP as closely as I'd like of late.

Originally Posted by jlousa

Figured I'd start a rumour to liven up the place. We will be seeing a proposal come forward soon, the scope of which BC has never seen before both in height and density and it's unlikely to get surpassed. I'm sure there will be vocal local backlash against it. The site is in Vancouver proper and will be very we served by transit. That is all anyone is getting for now, further update after Oct 8th. And before people get too carried away, my words were carefully chosen.

Open house slated for proposed Broadway-Commercial Drive development
Brian Morton
Published on: September 24, 2016

An open house will be held Oct. 8 into the proposed redevelopment of the Safeway lot east of the Commercial-Broadway SkyTrain station, which has been identified as a key site in the Grandview-Woodland community plan.

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http://vancouversun.com/business/real-es...ed-broadway-commercial-drive-development

EDIT - Ok I'm way behind - it's all on the page before. Anyways I'm looking forward to it!

[jlousa]

Originally Posted by bb1510

I heard from a friend in the industry that a Foster + Partners tower is in the works and will be launched next/the year after. He couldn't disclose anymore information. He did say that the developer was starting at $1750 psf.

He mentioned that there were multiple pipelines in terms of projects that Foster + Partners is working on in Vancouver.

Anyone know anymore information regarding this as well as where the possible location is?

I am only aware of one Foster project upcoming, it's by the firm and not the man himself, and is for along the broadway corridor but it's very early and they might even go with another firm. There could very well be additional project that I'm not aware of.

[urbancanadian]

^The fact that there is a (at least one) new Foster + Partners project in the works gets me super excited, thanks!

[jlousa]

With the sudden passing of Bing Thom the event regarding the BroadwayCommerical Safeway redevelopment for this weekend has been postponed. I'll let you guys know when it's rescheduled. His spirit will live on in his work.

[red-paladin]

That was indeed very sad to hear

[Tommyrey]

I haven't seen anything on this site about the proposed Empty House tax. As the owner of a condo in Yaletown that we use 6-8 times a year as a vacation home from our permanent residence in the States, I think it is a terrible idea to penalize us when everywhere else in the world we would be welcomed. We are already paying higher taxes than residents because it is not our primary residence, so how can they justify another tax? We don't want to rent it because it is filled with our clothes and furniture. If we wanted to own rental property we would do so close to home. Check out this link for more information http://vancouver.ca/people-programs/empty-homes.aspx

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by officedweller

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Yeah, it should be our Yonge & Eglinton.

Instead, the densest transit hub in the region outside the downtown (with 2 Skytrain lines) will be at Lougheed.

I bet when the M Line goes west one day, Granville-Broadway will really become our Yonge-Eglinton. At present, it is as you say, but at Granville will be classier and true "midtown.".

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Tommyrey

I haven't seen anything on this site about the proposed Empty House tax. As the owner of a condo in Yaletown that we use 6-8 times a year as a vacation home from our permanent residence in the States, I think it is a terrible idea to penalize us when everywhere else in the world we would be welcomed. We are already paying higher taxes than residents because it is not our primary residence, so how can they justify another tax?

well then go anywhere else in the world. you can afford a 2nd place in Vancouver's Yaletown. tough luck. Vancouver can't just cater to foreigners, that is what has created problems in the first place.

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I bet when the M Line goes west one day, Granville-Broadway will really become our Yonge-Eglinton. At present, it is as you say, but at Granville will be classier and true "midtown.".

I would think Cambie and Broadway, if not Commercial-Broadway, since it will have two rapid transit lines intersecting, and City Hall is right there too.