Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015)

[noodlenoodle]

Originally Posted by hilman

Wow, I never thought I'd see this day but I totally agree with noodle, WTF?

Heck, as an Oliver resident who commutes a whopping 9km daily (round trip), I likely benefit less directly from the Henday than most people in Edmonton.

Yet I can see how much of a boon this is for the city, even if it does facilitate some of the sprawl & induce more demand. It's a necessary evil & I'm glad that we're now able to reap the benefits of decades of planning & years of work.

[s4.audios]

The new completed Hendey is pretty damn cool, used it on couple occasions and it has reduced my driving time.

But I'd rather circlejerk around the new Stantec, NoodleNoodle care to give a helping hand?

[noodlenoodle]

Nah, I tend to stay out of Downtown, both physically & mentally. I may live in the "neighborhood next door" as it were, but given my druthers I'd sooner drive any way but east to get what I want or where I want to go. Not enough unique things Downtown to pique my personal interests, certainly not enough to deal with the (partially intentional) difficulties getting in or out of Downtown. Juice isn't worth the squeeze.

[Coldrsx]

Lol

[stefanYEG]

Was driving and didn't get a chance to stop for a pic, but the Hyatt now has signage out front.

[noodlenoodle]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Lol

Right back atcha.

Seriously, what can I get Downtown that I can't get elsewhere besides Minor League Hockey at Major League pricing? My groceries come from Oliver & Kingsway. My clothes are either made-to-measure or most easily obtained at WEM. Daily sundries are available in my own neighborhood 24/7 & for other odds & ends it's far more convenient to get to Kingsway than CCM from West Oliver if I don't wanna wait for Amazon.

I dig the AGA & am cautiously optimistic about the RAM, but those are both a couple times a year, max, like the TWOS or the Muttart. Other than a couple Saturday afternoons a year I don't really need Downtown at all.

"Lol" indeed.

[feepa]

Lol

[240glt]

Originally Posted by noodlenoodle

The completed Henday will have a lot larger effect on the day to day life of more Edmontonians than any of the buildings, lightposts, arenas or any of the other inconsequential shit that the people on this forum lose their shit over on a regular basis.

Your statement is a perfect encapsulation of how dramatically out of touch many of the posters on this forum are with the rank & file residents of their own city.

Yup the completed Henday has a huge positive impact on my daily life, much moreso than being mentioned in a travel magazine or a new arena.

For some the arena will be more important and that's fine, but what I find sad is that some are so myopic that they can't even fathom how something else may have more of a positive impact than the things they feel will

[Albicaulis]

I've spent the last 4 years involved with the Henday. I can attest that the excitement (or relief) that the north-east leg would be completed was significant. "When's it going to open" was almost a daily question to me and for good reason.

I think we should be happy that this project is completed and also be pleased with the progress of our downtown. This isn't a zero sum game.

I know urbanists sometimes deride new urban freeways, and for good reason, but I think having an effective ring road will be a big long-term positive for the City.

[s4.audios]

People are dragging this topic too long me thinks.

This doesn't even have anything to do with what is more important, it is just a difference in point of view.

I am with Dave in that it is more interesting and would/should focus on these other fascinating developments more than just a road. Yah the road is a HUGE benefit to everyone's quality of life, but it is not a point of attraction. Downtown is and what's happening in it is. The point isn't that the road is of no relevance, there's just more exciting things to even just look at, whether you use it or not, it brings interest to the city.

Personal trainers often say you gotta work out the core and your back.. the muscles that are used most and important in your health. But are we not more inclined to develop our 'glamour' muscles such as biceps, that are not as important in any necessary act in life?

[Coldrsx]

Awesome piece.

http://www.avenueedmonton.com/City-Life/...To-Read-The-Signs/#.V-_cjd2pzWw.facebook

[noodlenoodle]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Awesome piece.

http://www.avenueedmonton.com/City-Life/...To-Read-The-Signs/#.V-_cjd2pzWw.facebook

It was kinda cute up until that last blurb packed to the gills with fully fallacious reasoning.

"Then on a walk home from her downtown school. Mom, why do so many apartments say A-D-U-L-T O-N-L-Y? Because some people are afraid of children. But that’s just silly. You’re right. Well, then someone should really take down those signs. "

I rent a number of properties out & none of them to families, intentionally. It's not because I'm afraid of children, rather I'm tired of dealing with entitled parents who feel like their special snowflake is beyond reproach & that includes the additional wear & tear on properties that comes along with children. Unfortunately there's very little I can do to manage or assess the risk of whether someone is a responsible parent or not until it's too late, so I just avoid the whole rigmarole & rent to childless people.

[feepa]

40,000 to 70,000 people will use the new section of the Henday daily.

what's the max capacity of the arena?

[240glt]

^^^^ again, that's your perspective and that is great that you find downtown developments so interesting. I like buildings too.. I've worked in commercial construction and property management for the last 17 years and have spent more than my fair share of time in office towers, cultural and sports venues and institutions. I think what's happening downtown is good... Lord knows this area has come a long way but beyond the cheerleaders and boosters I don't think most Edmontonians have anything close to the level of engagement or interest that some here do, despite the best efforts of David Staples and the other propagandists that will say anything and everything they can to further their agenda

The proselytizing here though is so over the top that it's almost hilarious, you get the impression that some folks have never lived anywhere else. And That may be the case, but more than anything is reinforces just how adolescent and immature this city really is. That's exemplified by those who seem bothered than a large event that they don't feel is as important as what's going on in the downtown is gathering so much attention

I don't care who disagrees, and I'm sure most here will, but that's how I see it as an outsider looking in

[Coldrsx]

This isn't about Downtown or even Edmonton, it is about a human rights act and it choosing to allow discrimination based on AGE.

Let me remind you that we are the last Province in Canada to allow this blatant and disgraceful 'choice' of non-choice.

Time for change.

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Originally Posted by stefanYEG

Was driving and didn't get a chance to stop for a pic, but the Hyatt now has signage out front.

I heard that the Hyatt has been delayed until next spring. Apparently Prem has not been paying his contractors so work has stopped. Can anyone in the know confirm this?

[Albicaulis]

^^
I think managed apartment buildings should not be able to refuse rental to responsible parents w/ kids.

Privately owned condos, absolutely not. Not anyone's business but the owner. Human rights won't pay for a new hardwood floor.

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by Albicaulis

^^
I think managed apartment buildings should not be able to refuse rental to responsible parents w/ kids.

Privately owned condos, absolutely not. Not anyone's business but the owner. Human rights won't pay for a new hardwood floor.

What about a building with all the condos owned by one private owner? Hard to write a law to account for this difference.

[Albicaulis]

^
Not too sure, I'm a bit outside my area of expertise on this one.
I just thought that noodlenoodle should be able to rent his property to whoever he wanted. If he wants a tenant that doesn't have kids, so be it. If he wants a tenant that will not have more than 7 cactus's, so be it.

[Coldrsx]

Condo bylaws would be trumped by the Condo Act which would be trumped by the Human Rights Act.