YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 493

Johnny Aussie · #**9841** Posted **Sep 15, 2016, 7:16 PM**

According to this article TS will increase YVR-YYZ and introduce new YVR-YUL flights next summer. Mainly to connect to their European flights from YYZ and YUL.

YVR-YYZ increases to daily and YVR-YUL will have 2 flights pw.

http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-rel...ts-its-2017-transatlantic-flight-program

Next summer TS will have at least 30 flights per week out of YVR... subject to confirmation of the domestic flight scheds as not sure if all YYZ flights are non-stop, some may be via YYC.

casper · #**9842** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 2:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

It looks like Air Canada has has started using jet bridges for some of their Seattle & Portland flights from yvr. I didn't think AC,s Q400s had the proper front doors

In other markets they normally use bridges. Saskatoon is a market where Jazz almost always uses a bridge for the Q400. Last few times in Calgary it was also on a bridge.

Johnny Aussie · #**9843** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 4:37 AM**

Sounds like YVR set to land yet another Asian carrier by next summer.

Yeah I know.... another Asian carrier... Cue the whiners and whingers!

Another colourful livery to add to the mix.

It was discussed just a couple of weeks ago but sounds like coming to fruition.

nname · #**9844** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 4:57 AM**

Hmm.. let me guess... Thai?

Gordon · #**9845** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 5:02 AM**

Hainan?

Does gate A12 have an adapter that allows the brige to used by A Q400

jmt18325 · #**9846** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 5:04 AM**

You heard it here first - Hainan using the adapter at A12 for their TPAC Q400 flights.

Hourglass · #**9847** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 9:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Sounds like YVR set to land yet another Asian carrier by next summer.

Yeah I know.... another Asian carrier... Cue the whiners and whingers!

Another colourful livery to add to the mix.

It was discussed just a couple of weeks ago but sounds like coming to fruition.

Thai Airways? They've started taking deliveries of their A350s so possible...

trofirhen · #**9848** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 9:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hourglass

Thai Airways? They've started taking deliveries of their A350s so possible...

..... quite possible, it seems, as they've already announced BKK > SEA and BKK > YVR as planned destinations.

Johnny Aussie · #**9849** Posted **Sep 16, 2016, 8:57 PM**

Well whatever it is... We should know more by late October...

Also, Hainan still undecided what to do with its remaining 2 allotted frequencies. Not the ideal number it wants/needs for YVR-TSN. And with YYC's reduction on YYC-PEK only temporary.... who knows..

Sooooo with any luck, YVR should have at least 23 overseas foreign carriers by next summer.... probably 24 and possibly even 25 or maybe even 26.... depending on what falls out in the next few months.

I honestly think the chances of Hainan launching only twice weekly to TSN is becoming less likely. I know somebody mentioned that Chinese carriers are happy to have fewer frequencies on a route, but that still has to be looked at on a route-by-route basis. If Hainan doesn't see the commercial viability to operate only two flights per week, they may just abandon those plans. Their hands are tied due to the cap. Clearly the demand for Chinese carriers wanting to add more Canadian routes and also develop current routes with more frequencies outstrips the supply for now.

Edit: I suppose my comments rule out Hainan being the carrier I am talking about....

Gordon · #**9850** Posted **Sep 17, 2016, 2:08 AM**

Gate A12 is strictly Encore's gate & has no boarding bridge?

Speedbird1 · #**9851** Posted **Sep 17, 2016, 7:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Sounds like YVR set to land yet another Asian carrier by next summer.

Yeah I know.... another Asian carrier... Cue the whiners and whingers!

Another colourful livery to add to the mix.

It was discussed just a couple of weeks ago but sounds like coming to fruition.

From the ones talked about recently:

HK Air (who appear to be getting their first A350 in May or June next year), Thai, Tianjin/Hainan, and Vietnam..?

jmt18325 · #**9852** Posted **Sep 18, 2016, 8:44 PM**

Re posting from the YWG discussion:

Has anyone ever done travel through China under the TWOV rules?

I was thinking in the spring I'd like to do YWG-YVR-PEK (spend 3 days there) and then fly direct to HKG (as the rules state) and spend 3 days there. I'd then fly back HKG-YVR-YWG.

CareerShow · #**9853** Posted **Sep 19, 2016, 4:08 AM**

I was recently on a BA a380 and have to say that the aircraft is by far the most comfortable with regards to economy seating. It really is too bad not more airlines chose to purchase the aircraft. When you compare the number of seats on the aircraft (469 for a BA a380 with the AC 777 450 seats) its easy to see why the journey is so much more comfortable. I have to say that the AC 763 are also a very comfortable aircraft with the 2 3 2 seating and quite a lot of space in economy. For the crew however it appears much less comfortable.

jmt18325 · #**9854** Posted **Sep 19, 2016, 5:19 AM**

More airlines don't fly it for exactly that reason. Most people flying want the lowest price they can get. That means more seats on the same plane.

teriyaki · #**9855** Posted **Sep 19, 2016, 5:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by jmt18325

Re posting from the YWG discussion:

Has anyone ever done travel through China under the TWOV rules?

I was thinking in the spring I'd like to do YWG-YVR-PEK (spend 3 days there) and then fly direct to HGK (as the rules state) and spend 3 days there. I'd then fly back HGK-YVR-YWG.

Assuming you are flying to HKG (never heard of HGK. Hope it isn't some obscure chinese airport because that would not work). Your 72 hour TWOV would work just fine. I've done this for trips to Beijing and Shanghai, both did not require a visa because of this rule. My advice is to make sure you have printed copies of everything available for them to review. Your arrival flight, departure flight, hotel stay, etc. I once had it on my phone, but of course wifi wasn't readily available upon arrival into PEK and had quite the ordeal trying to explain...

jmt18325 · #**9856** Posted **Sep 19, 2016, 6:05 PM**

Yeah, thanks - forgot the order of the code letters, and didn't check when I copied it over.

CareerShow · #**9857** Posted **Sep 19, 2016, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by jmt18325

More airlines don't fly it for exactly that reason. Most people flying want the lowest price they can get. That means more seats on the same plane.

Very true. However too bad many people are semi blinded by these cheap fares, as many travel with baggage, book seats, buy a drink and food etc. which works out to a similar price to the legacy carriers in most cases

Johnny Aussie · #**9858** Posted **Sep 19, 2016, 10:56 PM**

So with all the capacity Air Canada is adding in the YVR market, I did a fairly comprehensive summary of all the additions to International markets including transborder. I would have to say this is probably the most significant increase AC has ever had at YVR on just a YOY basis. Of course, the more additions, the greater the chance of error, but I am fairly confident this is it!

Comparisons to Winter 2015/2016. New services in bold.

As you can see very few routes have no changes, but they are not listed (LHR, HKG for eg)

I'll work on non-Air Canada changes - and there are A LOT of them as well some other time!!

BNE: *new* daily 789
DEL: *new* 3x weekly 789
ICN: 789 replacing 788 daily
NRT: 789 replacing 788 daily
PVG: 789 replacing 788 daily
PEK: 77WHD replacing 77W daily
SYD: 77LHD replacing 77L daily
CUN: increase from 1 weekly to 2 weekly rouge 763
PVR: increase from 1 weekly rouge 319 to 2 weekly rouge 763
SJD: rouge 763 replacing mainline E90 one weekly
ZIH: rouge 763 replacing mainline 319 one weekly
ORD: *new* daily E90
SAN: *new* daily Jazz CRA
SJC: *new* twice daily Jazz CRA
DFW: *new* daily Jazz CRA
EWR: 789 replacing 319 daily
PHX: 4 weekly rouge 763 replacing daily rouge 319
PSP: 3 weekly rouge 763 replacing 6 weekly rouge 319
SEA: 4 daily Jazz DH4 replacing 4 daily Jazz DH3
PDX: 4 daily Jazz DH4 replacing 4 daily Jazz DH3
LAX: 2 daily 321, 1 daily 320, 1 daily 319 replacing 1 daily rouge 763, 2 daily rouge 319
SFO: 3 daily 319 replacing 3 daily rouge 319
LAS: increase from 5 weekly rouge 763, daily rouge 319 to daily rouge 763, daily 319
HNL: decrease from rouge daily 763 to 6 weekly rouge 763.
Note about Hawaii: they did add an extra couple of flights per week to both HNL and OGG and an additional flight per week to KOA from about mid Feb to the end of March last winter. This doesn’t appear to be on the cards for this winter.

SFUVancouver · #**9859** Posted **Sep 19, 2016, 11:44 PM**

^ Fantastic summary of Air Canada year over year service changes. Thank you.

Johnny Aussie · #**9860** Posted **Sep 20, 2016, 12:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

^ Fantastic summary of Air Canada year over year service changes. Thank you.

Vielen vielen dank!

Hopefully this FINALLY puts to rest those who think YVR is lacking service or is getting screwed by AC.