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Originally Posted by comoneymaker
I could have sworn it said 499 yesterday. Guess I was to tired.
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Not a problem... but I still think you're confused a little. IIRC, it's not the number of pages but the number of comments. Look to the upper right hand corner of each comment to see the total number. When that reaches 10,000 then BAM. For example your own comment is #9192
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Originally Posted by Cirrus
They're related. Unless, like Kotkin, you have an agenda.
Anyway, while there could be some truth to the notion that cities have to expand horizontally to remain affordable, there's absolutely zero truth to the parochial American assumption that horizontal growth has to mean leap-frog sprawl. Walkable urbanism is not inherently more expensive than sprawl (in fact it's inherently cheaper); it's only expensive because there's more demand for it than there is supply. Paris' suburbs are more walkable, more dense, and more affordable than central Denver.
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No particular agenda on my part. In fact I was preferring to avoid the whole urban vs suburban debate. MarketWatch only had the summary; the main article was in the WSJ. If it had an agenda you'll have to tell me bcuz I didn't read it.
I mentioned the migration to the south. Much of this is industrial related. They tend to be in more competitive businesses for which costs are important. There's a reason for why Boeing chose to build planes in South Carolina. There's a different reason for why they chose Chicago for their HQ.
Interesting piece in Bloomberg recently entitled:
Conditions Are Ripe for a Big-City Exodus No, I didn't really buy into this but it did make some good points. There is potential for some truth to the idea.
I'm also part way through JLL's 64 page mid-year tech analysis. Things are changing although tech continues to be a powerful engine. Stronger tech companies who need to grow their back-office operations are more likely looking for more affordable markets. This is a strength of Phoenix for example.
PBJ just wrote of the pending announcement of San Francisco-based McKesson developing a 2,000 worker regional operations center. Other tech companies want to expand in established tech oriented often urban markets.
The lower 48 states have many dynamic moving parts that keep this country powering forward. It's all very fascinating, really.
As to affordability, the fact that Denver isn't experiencing any sprawl driven by starter homes as was typical of past cycles is why not only downtown but the whole metro area has become less affordable as Denver continues to experience healthy growth. It's not just the urban center.
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