Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[ortelius]

Thanks for the update!
I saw some new renderings on the IBI Group's page.
http://www.ibigroup.com/projects/ottawa-lrt-confederation-line

[Guideway]

Originally Posted by ortelius

Thanks for the update!
I saw some new renderings on the IBI Group's page.
http://www.ibigroup.com/projects/ottawa-lrt-confederation-line

I also took a picture but I can't find it. Ill try to post it.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

From a planning perspective, why are 3 open spaces being installed at one of the best intersections for high-intensity development? Seems like bad planning to me.

oooo ooOOO OOOO!!! Pick me!

The reason is because you are in the CAPITAL OF CANADA.

Go to Washington. That National Mall could make a great row of condos.

[PHrenetic]

"Using the mined construction technique yields large clear open spaces and specifically double height passenger concourse gallery space at Rideau Station without interrupting street operations overhead."

Ohhh....really ??!? wow. I did not know I have not been interrupted. Oh, My, Gosh !

And the planner p(ics) ! the huge concourse pic I think must consist mainly of the interconnections spaces to the buildings, 'cause if you study the biggest pic (the one of the train-level Rideau station) it sure looks pretty darn narrow to me for being THE main station of the whole darn line ! Anotherwords.... what I have been fearing all along - Toronto-style narrow crowded impossible-to-manoeuvre-at crush-hour platforms. (My apologies to Toronto. I'm from Montreal where even the large platform stations get crowded, and the narrow platform stations are 'difficult') And still no idea if they gave us connected concourses - are they still expecting us to slide past each other to get to the appropriate east or west end exit on the platform level ? Thanks, Jim.

[Aylmer]

I will point out that, unlike in the most crowded stations in Toronto, there are no other high-capacity transportation connections which would flood the platforms with hundreds and hundreds of people per minute. The only thing we have (so far) is buses, which release a smaller volume of passengers more evenly in time. So it is unlikely that enough people should head down into the station between frequencies (2 minutes) to flood the platforms.

For the one transfer station we do have, Bayview, it would however be important to have platforms large enough to accommodate the sudden dumps of passengers from the (eventually upgraded) Trillium Line.

[Aylmer]

From the aforementioned IBI link










I particularly like the ceiling in the second picture.

[McC]

Great stacks of rails appeared east of Bayview at the beginning of this week.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by PHrenetic

"Using the mined construction technique yields large clear open spaces and specifically double height passenger concourse gallery space at Rideau Station without interrupting street operations overhead."

Ohhh....really ??!? wow. I did not know I have not been interrupted. Oh, My, Gosh !

And the planner p(ics) ! the huge concourse pic I think must consist mainly of the interconnections spaces to the buildings, 'cause if you study the biggest pic (the one of the train-level Rideau station) it sure looks pretty darn narrow to me for being THE main station of the whole darn line ! Anotherwords.... what I have been fearing all along - Toronto-style narrow crowded impossible-to-manoeuvre-at crush-hour platforms. (My apologies to Toronto. I'm from Montreal where even the large platform stations get crowded, and the narrow platform stations are 'difficult') And still no idea if they gave us connected concourses - are they still expecting us to slide past each other to get to the appropriate east or west end exit on the platform level ? Thanks, Jim.

Not sure the platforms are as narrow as they appear in that picture.

Rideau station construction pictures are hard to find, but if you look at Lyon station

The platform is pretty much the width of two trucks. It will be narrower in places (because of escalators and such) but there will be a fair bit of waiting space.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by Aylmer

I will point out that, unlike in the most crowded stations in Toronto, there are no other high-capacity transportation connections which would flood the platforms with hundreds and hundreds of people per minute. The only thing we have (so far) is buses, which release a smaller volume of passengers more evenly in time. So it is unlikely that enough people should head down into the station between frequencies (2 minutes) to flood the platforms.

For the one transfer station we do have, Bayview, it would however be important to have platforms large enough to accommodate the sudden dumps of passengers from the (eventually upgraded) Trillium Line.

The trains will not be running at 2 minute frequencies even during peak periods. That is the maximum frequency that can be implemented.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

The trains will not be running at 2 minute frequencies even during peak periods. That is the maximum frequency that can be implemented.

The maximum frequency is every 90 seconds once ATC is enabled (which, as all the wiring for it is already being roughed in, is a fairly easy upgrade).

We'll be somewhere between 3m and 3m30s at peak periods on opening day, and 5m in almost all off-peak times. (The latter a huge improvement over the Transitway, both current and pre-2015, especially east of Blair).

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by acottawa

Langevin is not built on a human scale. The ceilings are over-sized (for a human), the main staircase is over-sized, the hallways are over-sized, it was designed to be impressive.

The fact that teenagers can climb something does not make it human scale.

There are degrees of monumental scale between typical monumental architecture and ridiculous nazi scale.

Again, you are confusing size and scale.

Size != scale

Humans like walking past a building like Langevin. It has doors and windows where they should be. It has texture and rhythm. It is built to a human scale.

Humans don't like walking past the National Arts Centre or the Bell phone exchange on Slater.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Aylmer

I will point out that, unlike in the most crowded stations in Toronto, there are no other high-capacity transportation connections which would flood the platforms with hundreds and hundreds of people per minute. The only thing we have (so far) is buses, which release a smaller volume of passengers more evenly in time. So it is unlikely that enough people should head down into the station between frequencies (2 minutes) to flood the platforms.

Famous last words. Given how OC Transpo is incapable of preventing bus-clustering now, why would they be any more able to do so in two years' time?

For the one transfer station we do have, Bayview, it would however be important to have platforms large enough to accommodate the sudden dumps of passengers from the (eventually upgraded) Trillium Line.

Which all but guarantees it will be too small. (PS why haven't they already enlarged the platform at Carleton, even if only by a few feet in any direction, to prevent the jostling at peak times there? It's not safe.)

[rocketphish]

First phase of LRT an 'eye-opener' as council signs off on $30M in bus detours

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: September 14, 2016 | Last Updated: September 14, 2016 4:29 PM EDT

The first phase of LRT has been an “eye-opener” for the city, according to Mayor Jim Watson, whose council Wednesday signed off on accepting federal money to help pay for $30 million in bus detours.

The feds are offering $15 million for the bus detours, leaving the other half for city to plug into its 2017 budget. The spending is over and above the $2.1 billion LRT contract with the Rideau Transit Group.

“I think you’re never going to have a project that doesn’t have add-ons or takeaways one way or the other because they are just so massive and you come across situations that you could not possibly anticipate,” Watson told reporters after the council meeting. “The good thing about Phase 2 is that we have the lessons learned from Phase 1 and I think that has been an eye-opener.”

The feds want to pay half the costs for 57 transportation projects in the City of Ottawa, including the bus detours. Also on the list are projects directly related to the first phase of LRT, such as a bus loop at Tunney’s Pasture, customer waiting areas at stations, a crew room at Bayview station and bike lanes on the Booth Street bridge. Those four projects are worth $8.5 million and the federal money will pay for half the costs, leaving the city to pick up the rest of the tab.

The $30-million expense for bus detours after the Transitway closed for LRT conversion is also tied to the first phase of LRT. If the feds didn’t offer up $15 million for the detours, the city would have had to include the entire amount into its budget.

Watson said the detours cost more money than the city anticipated.

The detours have pushed most of the Transitway bus traffic onto Highway 417 east of downtown and Scott Street west of downtown. Both detours have worked well so far, probably even better than people thought.

The extra money might be helping the detour’s smooth operations on Scott Street. While residents around Scott Street envisioned a constant wall of buses rumbling up the road all day, Transpo has managed to make it work without many complaints from residents who live along the corridor. Regular traffic, while heavy during the daily commutes, has flowed well, despite lanes in each direction being dedicated exclusively to buses.

The city added paths and pedestrian-protecting fences around Scott Street, although the city originally said the work could be done within the $2.1-billion LRT budget.

Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper and Rideau-Rockcliffe Coun. Tobi Nussbaum were scratching their heads about the nature of the $30-million cost for bus detours and what the money is covering, beyond what was included in the LRT contract.

Leiper said it’s a reminder for the city to make sure the $3-billion second stage of LRT is planned and budgeted correctly with enough community consultation.

“In the wake of all that, let’s get Phase 2 right,” Leiper said.

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http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...-council-signs-off-on-30m-in-bus-detours

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Aylmer

From the aforementioned IBI link

Wait - the trains are gonna run on the left?

[McC]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Wait - the trains are gonna run on the left?

or will have B&W cardboard cutouts in the operators' cabs to soothe the feelings of people weirded out by automation?

It's always weird when you transfer from the Metro to the RER in Paris that the orientation of the platforms switches for trains that rung on the right to trains that run on the left. (a French-only explanation of why the SNCF still does here: http://maligne-ter.com/orleans-tours/20100212pourquoi-les-trains-roulent-ils-a-gauche-en-france/)

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Aylmer

From the aforementioned IBI link






I particularly like the ceiling in the second picture.

Love Rideau Station. Feels a lot airier than the design that came out in 2013.



Which station will have the multi-coloured ceiling?

[Aylmer]

It doesn't say. But I optimistically assume that it will be a concept applied to all the underground stations, hopefully with different styles and motifs.

[rocketphish]

Construction Update
Week of September 12

Work on the guideway is really starting to advance right across the alignment. This week, crews have mobilized at Tremblay Station for trackwork activities. The downtown integrated stations are also seeing real progress. Crews completed the construction of the head house at Parliament Station west entrance this week, and are now moving toward the next phase of activities, including installation of the roof slab.

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Forming walls at Pimisi Station

West Stations

Tunney’s Pasture Station: Crews complete final demolition and removals, and mobilize to begin working on the station foundation and footings.

Bayview Station: Ground improvement activities occur and crews continue work on the ancillary building. The north-south multi-use pathway realignment begins to allow caisson installations to take place.

Pimisi Station: Crews continue foundation work including rebar and formwork installations for station walls and footings. Grading, electrical and mechanical installations also occur.

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Lyon Station-concrete and rebar ongoing

Central Stations

West Portal: Excavation of the ramp is finalized; crews continue to install reinforcements.

Lyon Station cavern: Crews install rebar and pour concrete for the concourse slab and columns. Arch final lining pours are ongoing.

Lyon Station west entrance: Station construction continues to advance; crews install rebar, formwork and pour concrete. Mechanical and electrical installations also occur.

Lyon Station east entrance: At the concourse level, crews continue to install rebar and pour concrete for station walls. At the east vent shaft, rock removal occurs.

Parliament Station cavern: Rebar installation and concrete pours continue in the station. Crews install mechanical and electrical works, and waterproof the arch.

Parliament Station west entrance: Crews complete masonry installations and foundation wall removal. Rebar installation and concrete pours continue on the parking level. At the east vent shaft, line drilling and rock removals occur.

Parliament Station east entrance: Structural steel installation and welding is finalized and crews pour the station stairs. At street level, crews line drill and remove rock in anticipation of blasting in the coming weeks.

Traffic restrictions on Queen and O’Connor streets remain in effect.

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Rebar installations on L-wall-Rideau Station

Rideau Station cavern: Waterproofing, rebar installation and concrete pours continue as part of work on the station L-walls and invert.

Rideau Station west entrance: Crews install rebar, formwork, pour the roof, excavate and continue reinforcements. Overnight jet grouting and drilling occurs.

Rideau Station east entrance: Work on the station walls continues and includes rebar installation and concrete pours.

East Portal: Crews finalize piling and begin excavating the ramp in preparation for future guideway work.

Traffic restrictions on Rideau Street remain in effect.

uOttawa Station: Crews install rebar and pour concrete for the station walls and work on platform is ongoing as the station continues to take shape.

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Installing membrane-Lees Station

East Stations

Lees Station: Crews continue working on the gas mitigation membrane and mobilize to begin rebar installation for the raft slab.

Hurdman Station: At the station, crews install rebar, pour the concourse floor slab and mobilize to begin masonry installation on the block wall. Construction of the bus operators’ building advances.

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Structural steel and concrete work-Tremblay Station

Tremblay Station: Station construction continues to advance; crews work on parapets, canopy footings and install structural steel. Trackwork activities are ongoing.

St-Laurent Station: Crews install rebar and pour concrete for the station elevators. Masonry is finalized and work continues on the hydro room. Crews continue electrical work and begin structural steel installation on the plenum. Track work crews begin pulling rail on the westbound track this week.

Cyrville Station: The concourse level continues to progress; crews install rebar and pour concrete. Crews work on the station roof, auxiliary building and parapets. Mechanical and electrical work also occurs.

Blair Station: Crews work on the roof, soffit and install exterior wall panels. Hardscaping activities including utility, catch basin, parking, curb and sidewalk construction are ongoing.

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East running tunnel reinforcements

Tunnel Excavation and Support

Excavation and installation of reinforcements continue in the running tunnel.

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OCS foundations_grading-Guideway-CPR bridge to Preston St.

Guideway

Tunney’s Pasture Station to West Portal: Between Tunney’s Pasture Station and Merton Street, crews continue excavation, grading, and Overhead Catenary System foundation installation during the day and overnight. Crews mobilize to begin flash butt welding as part of trackwork.

Mann Avenue Bridge to west of Lees Station: Trackwork activities continue on this section of the guideway including track welding and ballast installation.

Rideau River Transitway Bridge to Blair Station: Trackwork continues between Rideau River Transitway Bridge and Tremblay Station; activities include installing ballast, pulling rail and welding. Just east of Tremblay Station to Blair Station, crews complete systems and cables installations in preparation for vehicle testing this month.

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CPR bridge reconstruction ongoing

Other Activities

CPR Bridge near Bayview Station: Crews install formwork for the pier caps. Work on the bridge abutments and ground improvement activities are ongoing.

Mann Avenue Bridge: Work on the reconstruction of the bridge is ongoing and includes caisson installations and work on pier caps.

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Upcoming Construction Activities

In the coming weeks, the following construction activities are scheduled to occur:

• Tunney’s Pasture Station work requiring right turn lane restriction.
• Blasting at Parliament Station east entrance.
• Overnight lane closures on Rideau Street for jet grouting activities.
• Weekend demolition of the Mann Avenue Bridge and full closure of the roadway.
• Vehicle testing and Overhead Catenary System to be electrified in phases along the guideway between Belfast Yard and Blair Station.
• Traction power sub station installations along the alignment.

http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-90/

[McC]

Originally Posted by McC

Great stacks of rails appeared east of Bayview at the beginning of this week.

They've now laid some of this track from about the Bayview bus platforms to at least east of Preston St., the grade changes blocked my view from the Albert MUP as I go further east. (users of the Booth Freeway might have a better view).

[dodoburd]

Overhead wire is now up around Blair (at least, one side is)