Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed - Page 496

Jebby · #**9901** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by nickbeaulieu

So I'm confused... Since when did Sapperton and Braid become part of the expo line? Was there some announcement that I didn't see?

The maps have been posted in this thread. It's been known for months now.

nickbeaulieu · #**9902** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

The maps have been posted in this thread. It's been known for months now.

Oh, so sorry for asking a simple question and not finding the info in over 400 pages of posts. Such a helpful person you are.

Jebby · #**9903** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by nickbeaulieu

Oh, so sorry for asking a simple question and not finding the info in over 400 pages of posts. Such a helpful person you are.

I wasn't trying to be rude, I was just saying that it's not something new. It's been known for months that they're going to change the line routes.

Jebby · #**9904** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by nickbeaulieu

So the millennium line won't run alternating with expo from waterfront anymore?

No, it won't. It will run across the new Evergreen Line and then from Lougheed to VCC.

This is what the network will look like:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e-zJqt3aW9c/Vh.../EyeLlScqJic/s1600/Future%2BSkyTrain.png

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Originally Posted by nickbeaulieu

do you know what made them decide to change it up like that? Where did they publish this information? I'd be interested in reading it.

Double interlining makes operations much more complex and would cause the entire system to suffer problems if a shutdown occurred on just one section.

Take a look at the Circle Line in London and you'll see the sorts of problems that double/triple interlining causes. That's also a reason why that line was changed over there.

nickbeaulieu · #**9905** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

I wasn't trying to be rude, I was just saying that it's not a something new.

Alright. sorry, it just came off as rude. It's difficult to pinpoint that info after 400+ pages of forum posts

nickbeaulieu · #**9906** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 4:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

No, it won't. It will run across the new Evergreen Line and then from Lougheed to VCC.

This is what the network will look like:

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Double interlining makes operations much more complex and would cause the entire system to suffer problems if a shutdown occurred on just one section.

Take a look at the Circle Line in London and you'll see the sorts of problems that double/triple interlining causes. That's also a reason why that line was changed over there.

Ahhh, interesting. OK, thanks. I appreciate it.

jsbertram · #**9907** Posted **Sep 7, 2016, 11:50 PM**

So fewer people are confused;
when Evergreen opens, the Millennium line from VCC to Lougheed will continue eastwards using the new Evergreen Extension (of the Millennium line)

Only the Expo line will run between Waterfront and New West, then splitting to either King George (the major terminus) or Production

there won't be an "Evergreen line"

Nor will there be an "Evergreen extension" of the Expo line

MIPS · #**9908** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 6:03 AM**

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there won't be an "Evergreen line"

Nor will there be an "Evergreen extension" of the Expo line

To anyone from out of town the map makes no goddamn sense.

They said take the Expo Line to Surrey, but does this train go to Surrey, or to Production Way/University??

Why is this an extension if I have to switch trains at Lougheed?

How much crystal meth have these people smoked?

officedweller · #**9909** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 6:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

To anyone from out of town the map makes no goddamn sense.

They said take the Expo Line to Surrey, but does this train go to Surrey, or to Production Way/University??

Why is this an extension if I have to switch trains at Lougheed?

Expo Line will be a branched line - just like the Canada Line.
And when the Port Coquitlam branch is built, the Millennium Line will also become a branched line.

The tourists going to YVR on the Canada Line seem to manage just fine
- I haven't heard reports of throngs of luggage laden passengers at Brighouse looking for a plane.

If you're on a Millennium Line train, you won't have to switch at Lougheed - so it IS a "continuation" of the line (i.e. an extension).

dpogue · #**9910** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 2:32 PM**

I've noticed M-Line outbound trains at VCC-Clark and Lougheed have started announcing "This is a Millennium Line train to Waterfront" when stopped at the station.

Express691 · #**9911** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 4:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by dpogue

I've noticed M-Line outbound trains at VCC-Clark and Lougheed have started announcing "This is a Millennium Line train to Waterfront" when stopped at the station.

Rode a mark 2.5 last week and it said "This is an expo line train to Waterfront." Started at Surrey central and heard it when I got off at columbia

nname · #**9912** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by dpogue

I've noticed M-Line outbound trains at VCC-Clark and Lougheed have started announcing "This is a Millennium Line train to Waterfront" when stopped at the station.

And inbound "This is a Millennium Line train to VCC-Clark" at both Lougheed and Production.

oy1234 · #**9913** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 5:20 PM**

@VancouverSun BREAKING: @TransLink's long-awaited $1.43-billion Evergreen Line will open before Christmas.

scryer · #**9914** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 5:41 PM**

I think that people over-complicate interlining....

If you were to use Moscow's or London's metro, of course you would be looking at the metro map to track where you are going, but you would pay more attention to where the train's final destination is so that you can verify if you're on the right train or not.

The colourful lines on the metro map really make no difference; it just makes it easier to figure out where you're going. Of course if there's a problem on the interlined tracks, it will effect more than one line but that would be the same case if that interlined portion was just a split line. So I really don't see the argument there

. And it's not like there needs to be a huge revamp of the software system to send a train to a different destination.

I just find it to be a huge inconvenience that for the commuter who leaves from Nanaimo or downtown to travel to Lake City Way Station (or something like that) is now forced to transfer trains (either at Commercial or Production Way) because of the updated system. I would rather have the Millennium line split than the expo line so that there are far less transfers for commuters.

mrtinvan · #**9915** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by oy1234

@VancouverSun BREAKING: @TransLink's long-awaited $1.43-billion Evergreen Line will open before Christmas.

Funny... We all thought it would open before Christmas, and the MoT puts out a press release this morning announcing they will give more cash to build parking spots at the stations. Don't think for one second Christy and the Liberals won't brag at election time saying they opened the Evergreen Line early.

Who wants to place bets on opening dates?

WarrenC12 · #**9916** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 6:04 PM**

"On time and on budget".

I'll guess Dec 20th.

officedweller · #**9917** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 7:22 PM**

Ah, yes ... the inherent dangers of "tunnelling risk".
At least it wasn't a Bertha-sized problem.

Two of the bored tunnels for Seattle Link Light Rail have also had sinkhole problems.

SkytrainCar026 · #**9918** Posted **Sep 8, 2016, 10:52 PM**

The north tunnel portal has now been fully buried!

Source: http://wcs.pbaeng.com/httphandlers/imagehandler.ashx?pid=20&iid=44687701&mode=orig

Construction camera website: http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit

jsbertram · #**9919** Posted **Sep 9, 2016, 12:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

To anyone from out of town the map makes no goddamn sense.

They said take the Expo Line to Surrey, but does this train go to Surrey, or to Production Way/University??

Why is this an extension if I have to switch trains at Lougheed?

How much crystal meth have these people smoked?

OH!
The Humanity!
What about the Children?

Pity the poor soul who lives in Surrey and goes to school at Douglas College - Expo line WB to New West; transfer to Expo line EB to Lougheed; Transfer to EB Millennium (using evergreen extension) to Lafarge Lake–Douglas Station

Or the reverse: Lives in PoCo and and goes to school at SFU.

The reality is that until the robo-cars are available to the masses allowing you to get directly from A to B, there will be some less-than ideal commutes on Skytrain

jsbertram · #**9920** Posted **Sep 9, 2016, 12:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by SkytrainCar026

The north tunnel portal has now been fully buried!

Source: http://wcs.pbaeng.com/httphandlers/imagehandler.ashx?pid=20&iid=44687701&mode=orig

Construction camera website: http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit

With the retaining wall being built, it appears that Clarke St will be rebuilt too.