Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[McC]

Originally Posted by passwordisnt123

...talking about digging a new metro tunnel. Is that because there wasn't any tunnel there to begin with or because the tunnel they had before was totally incompatible with metro?

I didn't understand that part either. The tunnels should be large enough, since they have room for overhead wiring and everything, and the vehicles can be designed to fit (think how small London's oldest Tube tunnels are, Paris' are on the small side too), and that tunnels are usually built to last longer than 60 years. But in terms of how big a job it is or isn't, look for some pictures of the station platforms to see the way they designed them, and the stairs, etc., for eventual conversion to high-floor operation. I think that it would be much more difficult to do that with stations that hadn't been designed with such changes in mind. E.g., I think changing the height of an elevator entrance would be particularly problematic. Basically, I don't think it would be worth the effort, the light metro train has left the station.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by passwordisnt123

That's good. So it doesn't sound too onerous a task. Though the second paragraph there scares me a little bit when they're talking about digging a new metro tunnel. Is that because there wasn't any tunnel there to begin with or because the tunnel they had before was totally incompatible with metro?

I think it might have to do with certain tram routes that would remain tram routes using those tunnels, so they need a tunnel for the metro and a tunnel for the trams. Not certain though.

[rocketphish]

Construction Update
Week of August 29

Guideway work begins to ramp up between the Rideau River Transitway Bridge and Tremblay Station with crews mobilizing to begin welding and pulling rail in sections, part of trackwork activities in the area. At Tremblay Station, construction advances as crews pour the concourse level.

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West Stations

Tunney’s Pasture Station: Station demolition is ongoing and crews remove existing structures.

Bayview Station: Ground improvement activities, foundation work and duct bank installations are ongoing. Work begins on the ancillary building.

Pimisi Station: Crews install rebar , formwork and pour concrete for station footings.

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Central Stations

West Portal: Excavation of the West Portal ramp continues and crews install reinforcements.

Lyon Station cavern: Crews continue work on the station concourse; activities include rebar installation and concrete pours for pillars. Shotcrete final lining is installed at the west transition.

Lyon Station west entrance: Crews backfill, waterproof, install rebar and pour the concrete raft slab. Mechanical and electrical installations also occur.

Lyon Station east entrance: Work on the walls continues and includes rebar installation and concrete pours. At the east vent shaft, crews begin rock removals.

Parliament Station cavern: Crews continue working on the station L-walls and slab; activities include waterproofing, rebar, mechanical and electrical installations, as well as concrete pours.

Parliament Station west entrance: Crews install rebar and pour concrete on the parking level and begin work on masonry walls. Removal of the foundation wall is ongoing. At the station entrance, crews excavate and install reinforcements. At the east vent shaft, rock removals occur.

Parliament Station east entrance: The station continues to take shape with structural steel installation. At the station entrance, crews continue reinforcements and removals.

Rideau Station cavern: Crews continue work on the station invert and walls; activities include waterproofing, rebar installation and concrete pours.

Rideau Station west entrance: Crews waterproof, install rebar and pour concrete for the station walls and raft slab. Jet grouting activities are ongoing. [post link to notice]

Rideau Station east entrance: Work continues on the station walls; crews complete waterproofing and install rebar and formwork.

Traffic restrictions on Rideau Street remain in effect.

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East Portal: Piling is ongoing in preparation for future guideway construction.

uOttawa Station: Crews install rebar for the station walls and suspended slab in preparation for concrete pours. Crews work on the columns and raft slab, and install mechanical and electrical works.

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East Stations

Lees Station: Utility installations and excavation is ongoing. Crews pour concrete duct banks.

Hurdman Station: At the station, crews construct the approach slab and install formwork in preparation for pouring of the concourse floor slab. Crews mobilize to begin installing steel for the slab. At the bus operators’ building, crews continue electrical installations and begin work on the roof. At the bus loop, crews begin pouring the platform.

Tremblay Station: Station construction continues to advance with structural steel and metal roof deck installations. Crews pour the concourse and work on the parapets and canopy footings. Elevator work is ongoing.

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St-Laurent Station: Crews install rebar and pour concrete for the station elevator. Masonry installation continues in the station and electrical room. Work on the hydro room begins. Crews begin coring in preparation for OCS installation.

Cyrville Station: Construction of the station platform level continues; crews install formwork in preparation for concrete pours. Work occurs on the station roof, parapets, and auxiliary building.

Blair Station: The station continues taking shape as crews work on the roof and install exterior wall panels. Crews mobilize to begin hardscaping work including utility, parking, curb and sidewalk construction.

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Excavation of the running tunnel west of Rideau Station - 2016-08-17

Tunnel Excavation and Support

Excavation and installation of reinforcements are ongoing in the running tunnel west of Rideau Station.

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Guideway

Tunney’s Pasture Station to West Portal: On the guideway near Tunney’s Pasture Station, crews excavate and install formwork in preparation for traction power sub station installation in the fall. Grading, removals and granular installation are ongoing in preparation for future trackwork. Crews install OCS foundations and electrical work along this section of the guideway.

Mann Avenue Bridge to west of Lees Station: Crews continue welding as part of preliminary trackwork. Sewer work is ongoing on this section of the guideway.

Rideau River Transitway Bridge to Blair Station: Between the Rideau River Transitway Bridge and Tremblay Station, crews mobilize to begin trackwork activities including ballast installation, pulling rail and welding. Final trackwork activities occur from just east of Tremblay Station to Blair Station, including distressing rail. Systems and cabling installations continue in anticipation of vehicle testing as early as September.

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Other Activities

CPR Bridge near Bayview Station: Crews work on the pier caps, abutments and continue ground improvement activities.

Booth Street: Final works, including paving and line painting, are completed in anticipation of reopening Booth Street as early as September 4.

Mann Avenue Bridge: Reconstruction of the Mann Avenue Bridge begins with caisson installations.

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Upcoming Construction Activities

In the coming weeks, the following construction activities are scheduled to occur:

• Blasting at Parliament Station east entrance.
• Demolition of the Mann Avenue Bridge.
• Structural steel installation at Hurdman Station.
• Watermain work near St-Laurent Station, along the guideway.
• Vehicle testing along the guideway between Belfast Yard and Tremblay Station.
• Traction power sub station installations along the alignment.

http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-88/

[PHrenetic]

Good Day, all.... FYI......
Just in - Alstom selected by Rideau Transit Group to provide 30 yrs overall Confederation Line maintenance, as well as for the trains.
http://www.masstransitmag.com/press_rele...intain-ottawas-light-rail-transit-system
Enjoy !

[PHrenetic]

And as well..... that fire hydrant fiasco.... a danger to pedestrians and sidewalk snowplows... but look closer.....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/fire-hydrant-booth-street-bridge-1.3745699
Now, I drive, bicycle, and walk (and learned to do all 3 in Montreal...safely. So, 'nuff said).... So, again, I know all the sides of these arguements,
BUT - "Cyclists...can legally use the sidewalk as well" !!!!!!!
I know - a different thread - BUT - I think this needs to be brought to attention in this thread too... IMHO..... !!!!! NO !!!!!
I am very tired, as a pedestrian, in having to protect myself from 100-mph-maniacs.
Sorry, but even though this is 'legal' in select other areas as well, it is so poorly marked or acknowledged that it becomes incomprehensible and dangerous. And this in the middle of a transit station? NO. We go back to never-on-sidewalks. Ever. No.
(Yes, I know that they are only a minority. But they are a significant minority, and give all the bad rep.) I will not get into the other current controversies here. Not the place.
Thanks, all.

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by PHrenetic

And as well..... that fire hydrant fiasco.... a danger to pedestrians and sidewalk snowplows... but look closer.....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/fire-hydrant-booth-street-bridge-1.3745699
Now, I drive, bicycle, and walk (and learned to do all 3 in Montreal...safely. So, 'nuff said).... So, again, I know all the sides of these arguements,
BUT - "Cyclists...can legally use the sidewalk as well" !!!!!!!
I know - a different thread - BUT - I think this needs to be brought to attention in this thread too... IMHO..... !!!!! NO !!!!!
I am very tired, as a pedestrian, in having to protect myself from 100-mph-maniacs.
Sorry, but even though this is 'legal' in select other areas as well, it is so poorly marked or acknowledged that it becomes incomprehensible and dangerous. And this in the middle of a transit station? NO. We go back to never-on-sidewalks. Ever. No.
(Yes, I know that they are only a minority. But they are a significant minority, and give all the bad rep.) I will not get into the other current controversies here. Not the place.
Thanks, all.

Good news- cycling facilities on the bridge will be fixed by the time LRT opens in 2018 so they will not need to ride on the sidewalk.

Bad news- it will cost an extra $2M.

[PHrenetic]

Originally Posted by bradnixon

Good news- cycling facilities on the bridge will be fixed by the time LRT opens in 2018 so they will not need to ride on the sidewalk.

Bad news- it will cost an extra $2M.

Pessimist's news - seen statements like this before.
ended up being make-do / make-shift / make-it-so !
Plus - cycling facilities in preliminary plans eliminated/lost/disappeared
thanks to bargain-basement Jim. Now - 2M to fix? ! gag me !
! sigh !

[Buggys]

Originally Posted by PHrenetic

And as well..... that fire hydrant fiasco.... a danger to pedestrians and sidewalk snowplows... but look closer.....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/fire-hydrant-booth-street-bridge-1.3745699
Now, I drive, bicycle, and walk (and learned to do all 3 in Montreal...safely. So, 'nuff said).... So, again, I know all the sides of these arguements,
BUT - "Cyclists...can legally use the sidewalk as well" !!!!!!!
I know - a different thread - BUT - I think this needs to be brought to attention in this thread too... IMHO..... !!!!! NO !!!!!
I am very tired, as a pedestrian, in having to protect myself from 100-mph-maniacs.
Sorry, but even though this is 'legal' in select other areas as well, it is so poorly marked or acknowledged that it becomes incomprehensible and dangerous. And this in the middle of a transit station? NO. We go back to never-on-sidewalks. Ever. No.
(Yes, I know that they are only a minority. But they are a significant minority, and give all the bad rep.) I will not get into the other current controversies here. Not the place.
Thanks, all.

Much safer for bicycles to be on the pavement with pedestrians than on the street with cars. It's good to finally have explicit permission for people to ride on the pavement.

Cars are several orders of magnitude bigger than people on bicycles, and can very easily kill or severely injure people on bicycles. However, people on bicycles are not much bigger than people walking, and cannot so easily injure people who are walking.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Buggys

Much safer for bicycles to be on the pavement with pedestrians than on the street with cars. It's good to finally have explicit permission for people to ride on the pavement.

Cars are several orders of magnitude bigger than people on bicycles, and can very easily kill or severely injure people on bicycles. However, people on bicycles are not much bigger than people walking, and cannot so easily injure people who are walking.

Yeah, a bicycle is what, 100 kilos moving at 10km/h (on a reasonably crowded sidewalk)? That's like 1 000N.

A car is a bit under 2000 kilos moving at what 50km/h (on a non-residential street downtown)? That's about 100 000N.

A cyclist being hit be a car is as such roughly a hundred times worse than a pedestrian being hit by a cyclist. One is a few scrapes, a broken born if things go really wrong, the other is numerous broken bones if you're lucky, death in plenty of circumstances.

[PHrenetic]

Yo... to Buggys and Beedok...
sorry , but I must disagree, heavily. Maybe safer for the cyclist, but NOT for the pedestrian. Try getting hit by a 'cycle. I have been. And just missed / breezed / winded far too often, and yelled at by A..H...s to make way for them way too often. NO!
Try walking down a pedestrian construction hoarding just barely wide enough for one person, and being confronted by a 'cycle headed straight at you at high speed. NO!
And yet 'cyclists claim to the 'rights' of a vehicle ? Then behave like one - responsibly !
If you're on the sidewalk, you ARE a pedestrian, with pedestrians, at the same speed as pedestrians. No faster, no yelling at people to get out of your way, no hogging the whole sidewalk. You want to go faster - there's the road. Use it. And by the way - use the correct side of the road - no contra-flow (yeah, I know about contra-flow bike lanes, and you know I am not referring to those.) either on the road or the sidewalk. NO.
Sorry guys... but NO.

[zzptichka]

Originally Posted by PHrenetic

Yo... to Buggys and Beedok...
sorry , but I must disagree, heavily. Maybe safer for the cyclist, but NOT for the pedestrian. Try getting hit by a 'cycle. I have been. And just missed / breezed / winded far too often, and yelled at by A..H...s to make way for them way too often. NO!
Try walking down a pedestrian construction hoarding just barely wide enough for one person, and being confronted by a 'cycle headed straight at you at high speed. NO!
And yet 'cyclists claim to the 'rights' of a vehicle ? Then behave like one - responsibly !
If you're on the sidewalk, you ARE a pedestrian, with pedestrians, at the same speed as pedestrians. No faster, no yelling at people to get out of your way, no hogging the whole sidewalk. You want to go faster - there's the road. Use it. And by the way - use the correct side of the road - no contra-flow (yeah, I know about contra-flow bike lanes, and you know I am not referring to those.) either on the road or the sidewalk. NO.
Sorry guys... but NO.

I never ride on sidewalks but I'm not taking my 9-year old on the road, nope.
If you don't want to see bikes on sidewalks, next time you go to an open house make sure you voice your support for segregate bike infrastructure. Believe me cyclists don't want to be riding on sidewalks either.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by PHrenetic

Yo... to Buggys and Beedok...
sorry , but I must disagree, heavily. Maybe safer for the cyclist, but NOT for the pedestrian. Try getting hit by a 'cycle. I have been. And just missed / breezed / winded far too often, and yelled at by A..H...s to make way for them way too often. NO!
Try walking down a pedestrian construction hoarding just barely wide enough for one person, and being confronted by a 'cycle headed straight at you at high speed. NO!
And yet 'cyclists claim to the 'rights' of a vehicle ? Then behave like one - responsibly !
If you're on the sidewalk, you ARE a pedestrian, with pedestrians, at the same speed as pedestrians. No faster, no yelling at people to get out of your way, no hogging the whole sidewalk. You want to go faster - there's the road. Use it. And by the way - use the correct side of the road - no contra-flow (yeah, I know about contra-flow bike lanes, and you know I am not referring to those.) either on the road or the sidewalk. NO.
Sorry guys... but NO.

Plenty of streets you see more cars than pedestrians, so the cyclist being on the sidewalk is even safer for the drivers than them being on the road. So do we take the slightly increased safety of the majority as more important than the safety of the minority that could end up risking their lives?

Or do we accept that sometimes getting a few people out of a potentially lethal situation is worth more people being at risk for scrapes?

[PHrenetic]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Plenty of streets you see more cars than pedestrians, so the cyclist being on the sidewalk is even safer for the drivers than them being on the road. So do we take the slightly increased safety of the majority as more important than the safety of the minority that could end up risking their lives?

Or do we accept that sometimes getting a few people out of a potentially lethal situation is worth more people being at risk for scrapes?

Scrapes ? .... more like broken bones. No. Sorry, but, No.
Like I said previously, the majority (less than I'd like, but the majority) of cyclists are not a problem. Most people do have some brains and respect for others' safety and security. BUT.... sufficiently many do not such as (as is always the case) to render the point, and the law, necessary to forbidding this practice. Safety and security is always deserved by all, and no matter the reason otherwise, the only place pedestrians have is the sidewalk. As has been evidenced by far more incidents and near misses by pedestrians taking their risks (yes, both appropriate AND inappropriate) in downtown around the disastrously inconsiderate construction zones lately. BUT... they are taking the conscious decision to step into harms way in the street-way of both cycles and cars (yes, at the risk to all). They should not have to be taking a conscious decision to risk life and limb in the sidewalk. And yes, I am in effect and deliberately extending this to include those mobility scooters that are also being driven by maniacs on the sidewalks.... excessive speed and disregard for others' safety and security so that they can 'motor' along. No.

[acottawa]

If cyclists want to use sidewalks they should walk their bikes.

[DarthVader_1961]

Originally Posted by acottawa

If cyclists want to use sidewalks they should walk their bikes.

Agreed... To many times bikes come up behind as i am walking from baseline and richmond into Bells Corners. Most do not have bells on their bikes to warn me they are behind me and comming up.

[swimmer_spe]

Sidewalks are for walking.

The road is for bikes and other wheeled transportation.

Cyclists have made themselves a target over the years by disobeying traffic laws, such as: ignoring stop signs, stop lights, not signalling, and weaving in and out of lanes.

Respect goes 2 ways. If they want drivers to respect them, the should also respect drivers and the laws.

[eemy]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Sidewalks are for walking.

The road is for bikes and other wheeled transportation.

Cyclists have made themselves a target over the years by disobeying traffic laws, such as: ignoring stop signs, stop lights, not signalling, and weaving in and out of lanes.

Respect goes 2 ways. If they want drivers to respect them, the should also respect drivers and the laws.

Or what, get run over by a truck? Most cyclists respect the rules of the road, just as most drivers do. Somehow though, we don't use the odd jay walker or drunk driver as an excuse for mowing down pedestrians or other drivers.

Cyclists are entitled to their space on the road too; it shouldn't come with risk of death. I'm not really sure where the behaviour of some reckless cyclists comes into the equation.

I'm also willing to wager that most people who are opposed to Idaho stops aren't regular cyclists.

[1overcosc]

^ Idaho stops make a lot of sense and we should adopt the law here too.

[Guideway]

We are slightly drifting of into a direction that can be discussed in another thread. I'm pretty sure the safety of bikers and pedestrians deserves it's own thread. (Unless it's a must need) Thank you If you insist you can continue but i'm just reminding y'all the title of this thread.

[McC]

Back on topic: the Booth Street viaduct reopened today, and an excavator was already ripping up the Preston extension at (what I assume was) the LRT alignment when I rode past this morning.