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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 7:41 PM
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So....maybe a silly question.

For all the sidewalk repairs front jasper as part of the Mayfair....why wouldn't the city do the jasper Ave street scape improvements at the same time. I assume Procura is just rebuilding the existing infrastructure which seems pretty silly since it is going to be ripped up in a couple years.

Assign a value for the damage that procura is responsible for and the city pays the difference.

Probably some silly bureaucratic reason it can't be done this way but it seems like an obvious win win for everybody.
That would have made more sense, but I don't believe there is any mechanism the City could have used to make that happen.
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^fancy and shiny, but I WILL miss the gold.
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A better questions is why didn't we shut Jasper down on that side during these couple of years for construction to do the new roadway work and eventual streetscape...
To avoid armed rebellion? It likely would make sense, but in the context of all the other lane and road closures DT, may have put some potential road ragers over the top.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 8:01 PM
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Mayor Iveson to announce Edmonton's census results

August 30, 2016

Media are invited to join Mayor Don Iveson as he announces the results of the 2016 Edmonton municipal census.

Date: Wednesday, August 31,2016
Time: 12:15 p.m.
Location: Media Room, second floor, City Hall
In addition to Mayor Iveson, Chief Economist John Rose and other City officials will be available for interviews and questions.
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Office:780-442-5423
Mobile:587-986-1736
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 8:22 PM
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^fancy and shiny, but I WILL miss the gold.
"Architect and manager won't miss the distinctive gold."

So what did the Royal Bank Plaza in Toronto do right that Scotia Place did wrong?

So lazy to convert to silvery glass. Scotia might as well wear an invisibility cloak because it could end up being so non-descript afterward that nobody will notice it's still there. The gold glass was the only thing that set Scotia apart.
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A few details on the Scotia Place re-skin. $22M makeover featuring 13,000 glass panels and horizontal LEDs.


https://twitter.com/tedgbauer/status/770734128123613184

Edit: Whoops, see daveography already posted about this, apologies.
     
     
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[QUOTE=Coldrsx;7546666]Mayor Iveson to announce Edmonton's census results

August 30, 2016

Media are invited to join Mayor Don Iveson as he announces the results of the 2016 Edmonton municipal census.

I'm guessing a lot of people left town??
I'll estimate 892,000 people.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 10:01 PM
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Very curious about the census.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 10:13 PM
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Re: 2016 Edmonton municipal census.

I'm guessing a lot of people left town??
I'll estimate 892,000 people.
Six of one, half dozen of another - some have no doubt left - others back from Ft Mac or Calgary living with mom and dad again.

Be interesting alright
     
     
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"Architect and manager won't miss the distinctive gold."

So what did the Royal Bank Plaza in Toronto do right that Scotia Place did wrong?

So lazy to convert to silvery glass. Scotia might as well wear an invisibility cloak because it could end up being so non-descript afterward that nobody will notice it's still there. The gold glass was the only thing that set Scotia apart.
Oxford takes care of their shit. Scotia glass is a dogs breakfast of mismatched panels with bad seals and I'm sure it leaks all over the place when the rain is driven into the building
     
     
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^ the italic portion of the quote was from the mayor. The proceeding paragraph which you bolded was my own commentary, supported by the opinions of many local residents, and which vision is shared by the mayor who stated he wished to see an integration plan and ARP pushed forward expediently.
I think you have taken quite the liberty constructing a sentence and framing it as the Mayors thoughts.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 11:26 PM
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^ you seem to be having quite a problem understanding the difference between what I wrote and the mayor's comments in italic.

I thought it was pretty clear. Apparently not
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 11:29 PM
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Speaking of exterior reclads, this is still crawling along at a snail's pace. What's the delay?

     
     
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 11:56 PM
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"Architect and manager won't miss the distinctive gold."

So what did the Royal Bank Plaza in Toronto do right that Scotia Place did wrong?

So lazy to convert to silvery glass. Scotia might as well wear an invisibility cloak because it could end up being so non-descript afterward that nobody will notice it's still there. The gold glass was the only thing that set Scotia apart.
it's not quite as simple as "what did they do right in toronto that wasn't done here".

firstly, toronto doesn't have the temperature swings that edmonton does nor does it have the same extremes from one side to the other that is very hard on curtainwall components and particularly on sealed glazing units.

secondly, the typical amount of "attic stock" taken in to inventory as part of the initial construction in order to replace failed or broken units will last a lot longer in toronto than in edmonton. once that stock has been depleted, replacement units need to be reordered and the subsequent lots are pretty much guaranteed not to be an identical match as the glass, the tints and the gases will never be exactly the same as the originals, never mind matching how the originals will have aged. gold glazing is one of the most susceptible to those variations being discernable.

lastly, gold tinted glass actually uses gold and while chosen primarily for how expensive it looks, it is expensive in fact and how expensive can vary a lot depending on the price of gold at the time. there are some manufacturers that no longer produce gold tinted glass because of the size of the investment it requires in their own inventory combined with the added security costs of managing that inventory.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2016, 12:14 AM
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Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2016, 3:17 AM
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Mayor Iveson to announce Edmonton's census results

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Media are invited to join Mayor Don Iveson as he announces the results of the 2016 Edmonton municipal census.
I'm gonna go ahead and guess we've breached the 900k mark? I hope so anyways

And I actually think the new glass on Scotia place will be an improvement! Gold was kinda tacky IMO
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2016, 3:22 AM
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900ish.

Classic, not tacky.
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A few details on the Scotia Place re-skin. $22M makeover featuring 13,000 glass panels and horizontal LEDs.


https://twitter.com/tedgbauer/status/770734128123613184

Edit: Whoops, see daveography already posted about this, apologies.
Are they really just leaving the podium as-is?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2016, 3:39 AM
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It appears as though Scotia is left, but the rest redone?
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