LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0 - Page 127

caligrad · #**2521** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 6:16 PM**

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The setbacks should line up with the street wall. Otherwise you get crap like this

This isn't a particularly good example but in Midtown Manhattan new hotels have to have a large setback that doesn't line up with the older buildings and feels weird and ugly.

Oh GOD no HAHA I didn't mean in that way.

I was referring to how the current 4th and Broadway tower is, where 7-10 floors are pushed up against the street to match the surrounding buildings street wall but the tower itself is set back from the rest of the building

ChargerCarl · #**2522** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 6:31 PM**

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Ha! The cards are stacked against them. The bill fast-tracking the project and others was signed today by Governor Brown. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-s...onmental-review-20160730-snap-story.html

This is great news!

blackcat23 · #**2523** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 6:36 PM**

Crane goes up for 9th & Hope

Jun · #**2524** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 6:38 PM**

^^^ shows how significant green space is to an urban environment. Wish we had more

caligrad · #**2525** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 6:47 PM**

^^^ I used to live across the street from this "park". I actually hated it. All kinds of things are wrong with it.

Great to see The crane is up for 9th and hope. Isn't the crane up for Onnis 50 story as well?

ChargerCarl · #**2526** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 6:53 PM**

It makes for a nice picture at least.

citywatch · #**2527** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 7:14 PM**

UWSartist, yimbyforums.com

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It’s nearly impossible to cruise the Westside’s high streets without seeing the name “Jay Luchs” in a retail window — though he’d like those banners to be quickly replaced by the signage of couture lines. Luchs, a retail broker at Newmark Grubb Knight Frank, has represented the likes of Celine, Louis Vuitton, Nike, Kitson, Soulcycle and the Kardashian’s fashion brand DASH. His main territory spans from the Beverly Hills triangle — specifically Rodeo Drive, Beverly Drive and the adjacent streets — to Venice Beach.

There have been unconfirmed rumors that an Apple store is coming to Downtown Los Angeles. What’s your take?

Apple may have looked in Downtown as they looked in Hollywood and other areas, but that doesn’t mean they are going there. I don’t think they are. I think they’ve looked and landlords have created more than what’s true because they want to build up an area and it could change the value of a property overnight. But until you hear Apple make an announcement, I would highly doubt Apple’s coming Downtown.

How do you feel about retail in Downtown L.A. — can we expect a Gucci store there anytime soon?

Development has catered to residential and food but it is not easy to sign a retail brand Downtown. I know because I have signed tenants in Malibu and West Hollywood that were intrigued by Downtown but at the end of the day, it wasn’t for them. Tenants aren’t going to make real money there for years. Acne Studios came. COS took the Olympic Theater space and I represented them. If rents stay moderate, the fashion brands will eventually show up, but it won’t be overnight. COS will do well because there is more of their customer around — they [attract] the locals and the people going to design school. But the tourist customer might not be there yet, and other brands need that.

Mojeda101 · #**2528** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 8:22 PM**

There will be tons of cranes going up in the next few months. The cranes have gone up for 888 South Hope(34 story), and 820 Hill(50 story), and the crane base has been placed for Apex(28 story).

I can only imagine the cranes will be going up for 5-OH(24 story), and 755 S Spring St(24 story) Not to mention the 37 story Mack Urban tower.

King Kill 'em · #**2529** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 8:55 PM**

I think they've placed the base for Frankentower 2 already.

Illithid Dude · #**2530** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 10:43 PM**

I don't see Gucci coming downtown for a while, and frankly, I wouldn't want it to. Ultra high end globalized fashion brands mark the end of a neighborhood, not the development of one.

scania · #**2531** Posted **Aug 29, 2016, 11:16 PM**

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I don't see Gucci coming downtown for a while, and frankly, I wouldn't want it to. Ultra high end globalized fashion brands mark the end of a neighborhood, not the development of one.

Totally disagree.

bzcat · #**2532** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 12:25 AM**

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I don't see Gucci coming downtown for a while, and frankly, I wouldn't want it to. Ultra high end globalized fashion brands mark the end of a neighborhood, not the development of one.

Gucci is middle of the market, hardly high end, let along ultra high end.

If having a Gucci store means the end of a neighborhood, then I guess the entire city of Paris is dead and beyond hope since there is a Gucci store in almost every neighborhood/district.

Resident · #**2533** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 2:31 AM**

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^^^ I used to live across the street from this "park". I actually hated it. All kinds of things are wrong with it.

My favorite park in DTLA. The main people I know who hate it want to take their dogs in their and piss on the trees but the guards wont let them.

King Kill 'em · #**2534** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 2:40 AM**

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Gucci is middle of the market, hardly high end, let along ultra high end.

If having a Gucci store means the end of a neighborhood, then I guess the entire city of Paris is dead and beyond hope since there is a Gucci store in almost every neighborhood/district.

True. Paris is actually dead because the French would rather keep their overpriced museum city instead of evolving, as cities are suppose to, by building new housing to keep it more reasonably priced.

Illithid Dude · #**2535** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 5:20 AM**

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Gucci is middle of the market, hardly high end, let along ultra high end.

If having a Gucci store means the end of a neighborhood, then I guess the entire city of Paris is dead and beyond hope since there is a Gucci store in almost every neighborhood/district.

Nah, Gucci is high end. It always has been high end. I don't want to flex my fashion knowledge on you but Gucci has been steadily higher end ever since Tom Ford got rid of the licensing deals and brought everything in house, though there was a small period where Gucci dipped prices in relation to lower demand during the interim before Frida was brought on, and is now trying to become even higher end with the rebranded and appointment of Alesandro Michelle, following the similar success Kering had with YSL. But don't take my word for it, go online and see the $20,000 fur coats Gucci is selling, and rabbit fur too - not even the nicer mink. But I digress.

And I think Paris is pretty dead, except for the thousands and thousands of tourists who go there. Is there really any youth culture there anymore? Moreover, I think it unfair to compare the entirety of Paris, literally the luxury capital of the entire world, with Downtown Los Angeles, a small submarket. A more similar comparison would be SoHo, which has gone from an artistic community to a tourist destination filled with literally nothing besides high end globalized brands and clubs.

black_crow · #**2536** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 6:38 AM**

I agree and disagree with both of you.

Gucci is a high-end brand, but a Gucci store would be great for Downtown.
We will have thousands of luxury condos in Downtown. There should be no question about the sense of a Gucci or Versace store.

ladowntowner · #**2537** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 6:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mojeda101

There will be tons of cranes going up in the next few months. The cranes have gone up for 888 South Hope(34 story), and 820 Hill(50 story), and the crane base has been placed for Apex(28 story).

I can only imagine the cranes will be going up for 5-OH(24 story), and 755 S Spring St(24 story) Not to mention the 37 story Mack Urban tower.

Wait! I thought we were coming up on the "end of the cycle" some months back... How can this be??? I'm so confused!!!

Easy · #**2538** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 1:13 PM**

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My favorite park in DTLA. The main people I know who hate it want to take their dogs in their and piss on the trees but the guards wont let them.

Agreed. It's nice to have a park where you can sit in the grass. It's a pleasant park and I really enjoy sitting on a bench from time to time even if it's for only a couple of minutes.

Easy · #**2539** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 1:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by black_crow

I agree and disagree with both of you.

Gucci is a high-end brand, but a Gucci store would be great for Downtown.
We will have thousands of luxury condos in Downtown. There should be no question about the sense of a Gucci or Versace store.

I guess. I've never been in a Gucci store or bought a Gucci anything but I'm thinking that we'll need another grocery store or two before we need those. Maybe one south of 11th and one north of 6th. We're going to need more basics with all the new people moving in but there's room for both.

ChelseaFC · #**2540** Posted **Aug 30, 2016, 3:18 PM**

The notion that a Gucci store would kill Downtown LA is rather preposterous. Solid hyperbole. And that's assuming Gucci would even be interested in DTLA in the first place yet.