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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 3:01 AM
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As I've said before, the delay in completion is not the big problem. The fact that we were told every thing was on schedule for us to move in this summer, up until the end of June is. Decisions based on that information (misinformation) could end in costing us up to $10,000. I can not believe a competent construction manager could not realize they were that far behind or that Concord Pacific would not inform us earlier.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 3:38 AM
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As I've said before, the delay in completion is not the big problem. The fact that we were told every thing was on schedule for us to move in this summer, up until the end of June is. Decisions based on that information (misinformation) could end in costing us up to $10,000. I can not believe a competent construction manager could not realize they were that far behind or that Concord Pacific would not inform us earlier.
I agree... so is there anything we can do about this? Like complain and get some kind of compensation?
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 6:15 AM
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As I've said before, the delay in completion is not the big problem. The fact that we were told every thing was on schedule for us to move in this summer, up until the end of June is. Decisions based on that information (misinformation) could end in costing us up to $10,000. I can not believe a competent construction manager could not realize they were that far behind or that Concord Pacific would not inform us earlier.
I'm fairly certain a competent construction manager told them exactly where they were on the schedule and that Concord staff could see it with their own eyes as with anyone else going by the towers on a regular basis.

So i'd say the fault is directly at the feet of Concord Pacific and their staff who simply fed you and others mis-information likely on purpose for likely legal reasons.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 6:17 AM
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I agree... so is there anything we can do about this? Like complain and get some kind of compensation?
Not unless they breached actual dates written into the disclosure agreement you signed. And if they said it then sent along an amendment and you signed it, then the date moves and everything they said was invalidated and meaningless.

At the end of the day people need to only go by their own eyes and what their contract/disclosure agreements say. And if it is that much of an inconvenience then when the amendment comes out you withdraw from the contract and take your money back. When I bought my townhouse we asked the sales team if we'd have ceiling lights in every room because it seems to be something nobody does these days in Metro-Vancouver vs the rest of the world and we wanted ceiling fans. They said "yes except the living room" so I had them write it into my contract along with assurance that the light fixtures will be rates to support ceiling fans, because they could have said "yes and with white elephants playing kazoos" but if they didn't deliver, if it wasn't in a contract with mine and their signature, it was meaningless. Did the same with our custom color scheme and even standard items like 30A circuits around our kitchen even though I was fairly certain they would do that. I wanted it all written down with a signature. And they did it because they were minor items and wanted to make a sale.

For dates it is different, those more often than not shift and you don't have any say on that.

So always go by your contract and any other document with signatures on them and just remember every amendment pushes the ball further down the road.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 6:06 PM
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I signed the latest amendment to signify that I had read it, not that I accepted it, as I clearly pointed out to them in an attachment. After 2 e-mails we sent to them expressing how we felt, we got the 2 word reply "well received".
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 6:16 PM
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I signed the latest amendment to signify that I had read it, not that I accepted it, as I clearly pointed out to them in an attachment. After 2 e-mails we sent to them expressing how we felt, we got the 2 word reply "well received".
So you did express to them that you were upset about the poor communication from Concord ?
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 7:01 PM
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So you did express to them that you were upset about the poor communication from Concord ?
Yes, but it's like they don't care.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2016, 8:28 PM
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Certain amendments can be executed without you needing to agree. By signing a purchasing agreement in the first place you are typically stuck to the contract especially if it is just dates being shuffled.

http://www.fic.gov.bc.ca/pdf/real_estate/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.pdf Page 6 in the Questions from Purchasers section.

Your recourse would be through the courts. If you're out a sizable amount of money as a result of their practices then you'd present that in a court and seek damages.

But quite frankly, amendments to dates happen in nearly every disclosure agreement and contract I've ever been witness too in large construction projects.

Again as I said earlier, lesson to you and everyone else to not put 100% faith and build your life and plans around completion dates until you're called in to do your inspection. At that stage you can be relatively certain the final completion date is more-or-less correct.

As nobody has gone for inspection on any units in this project, I would take even the current anticipated dates with a grain of salt. Yes it 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵, but it is an unfortunate reality of buying off plans into a project not fully completed yet. I'd just suggest you contact Concord and try to speak with someone higher up the ladder about your concerns and annoyances. Wouldn't bother with E-mail it is likely being filtered by an admin assistant who isn't in a position to answer you at any length or with any substance.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2016, 8:42 PM
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Sorry to hear some of you guys having the delay problem. I'm also looking forward to my new place at University district. So far no delays (fingers crossed)
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2016, 9:23 PM
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Sorry to hear some of you guys having the delay problem. I'm also looking forward to my new place at University district. So far no delays (fingers crossed)
When is university district scheduled to complete ? also have you done the walk-through already ? I heard that some people already did.. is that true ?
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2016, 1:19 AM
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When is university district scheduled to complete ? also have you done the walk-through already ? I heard that some people already did.. is that true ?
There have already been some owners that has done the walk through - the lower floor owners but mine hasn't been scheduled as I'm on the higher floors. The whole thing should be completed by November.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2016, 6:34 PM
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Certain amendments can be executed without you needing to agree. By signing a purchasing agreement in the first place you are typically stuck to the contract especially if it is just dates being shuffled.

http://www.fic.gov.bc.ca/pdf/real_estate/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.pdf Page 6 in the Questions from Purchasers section.

Your recourse would be through the courts. If you're out a sizable amount of money as a result of their practices then you'd present that in a court and seek damages.

But quite frankly, amendments to dates happen in nearly every disclosure agreement and contract I've ever been witness too in large construction projects.

Again as I said earlier, lesson to you and everyone else to not put 100% faith and build your life and plans around completion dates until you're called in to do your inspection. At that stage you can be relatively certain the final completion date is more-or-less correct.

As nobody has gone for inspection on any units in this project, I would take even the current anticipated dates with a grain of salt. Yes it 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵, but it is an unfortunate reality of buying off plans into a project not fully completed yet. I'd just suggest you contact Concord and try to speak with someone higher up the ladder about your concerns and annoyances. Wouldn't bother with E-mail it is likely being filtered by an admin assistant who isn't in a position to answer you at any length or with any substance.
I appreciate your input and suspect most of it is true. While they may be on sound legal footing, their lack of consideration of problems incurred by withholding pertinent information to us despite repeated requests is inexcusable, while in fact telling us we would definitely moving in this summer up until the end of June. I guess I'm too used to dealing with more reputable people.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2016, 10:35 PM
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I appreciate your input and suspect most of it is true. While they may be on sound legal footing, their lack of consideration of problems incurred by withholding pertinent information to us despite repeated requests is inexcusable, while in fact telling us we would definitely moving in this summer up until the end of June. I guess I'm too used to dealing with more reputable people.
I don't disagree. I find this to be the case with many developers unfortunately.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2016, 11:01 PM
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There have already been some owners that has done the walk through - the lower floor owners but mine hasn't been scheduled as I'm on the higher floors. The whole thing should be completed by November.
Are you saying they are allowing walk throughs before construction completion?
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2016, 1:09 AM
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Are you saying they are allowing walk throughs before construction completion?
Not sure if you meant Park Avenue or not but a few messages back, I mentioned the walk through was for University District, not Park Avenue. But yes, UD already has some walk through.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2016, 4:04 AM
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Not sure if you meant Park Avenue or not but a few messages back, I mentioned the walk through was for University District, not Park Avenue. But yes, UD already has some walk through.
Yes, I meant UD. So is the building still under construction?
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2016, 4:45 AM
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Yes, I meant UD. So is the building still under construction?
Officially yes but they are offering walk through - albeit in hard hats and boots and you'll need to sign a waiver. I would imagine Park Avenue also offering this soon - if not already.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2016, 3:43 PM
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So for Park Avenue people.. no-one has done walk-through yet right ??
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