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Old Posted Aug 2, 2016, 11:53 PM
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Don't like to see YEG getting the beatdown they are currently going through
WestJet pins YEG down and Air Canada repeatedly boots YEG in the crotch, while YCC gets tortured with feathers.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2016, 2:25 AM
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WestJet pins YEG down and Air Canada repeatedly boots YEG in the crotch, while YCC gets tortured with feathers.
I wonder why that is? Is it simply because Winnipeg has slowly slipped from the fourth largest Canadian city down to the seventh (?). Metro well below 1 million.
Or is it because Winnipeg just isn't a major economic centre? Too bad. It has so much going for it culturally.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2016, 2:35 AM
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I wonder why that is? Is it simply because Winnipeg has slowly slipped from the fourth largest Canadian city down to the seventh (?). Metro well below 1 million.
Or is it because Winnipeg just isn't a major economic centre? Too bad. It has so much going for it culturally.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2016, 2:58 AM
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YEG = Edmonton
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh pardon the gaffe!! Nevertheless, what ARE the reasons? Economic, surely.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2016, 4:48 AM
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Their #1 hub is still YYC so they are naturally going to push as much through YYC as possible. I'm sure the route would do just as well if not better out of YVR but it suits their corporate goals much better to push PAX through YYC.
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I'm guessing some of the LAS decrease is also acknowledging AC putting the 763 and extra seats on the route.

Don't like to see YEG getting the beatdown they are currently going through, but glad some of the flights are going to YVR and not all out to YYZ.

YYC is more or less flat correct?
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Slight decrease of 4-5 flights per day according to Johnny in the Calgary Airport section, so less than a 5% reduction.
Yes. Absolutely makes sense for them to fly LGW out of YYC year round with their large base there.

Note Air Transat has pulled their winter flights YYC-LGW but have increased YVR-LGW to twice weekly for the entire winter. TS is going after the larger O&D out of YVR whilst WS will have a better chance of filling their flights out of YYC with all the feed they have from Western Canada.

Westjet is actually increasing transborder flying from YVR this winter overall. LAS is being reduced from YVR, YYC and YEG. The loss of once per week to LAS from YVR is just a minor tweak so I don't think really has anything to do with rouge. SNA also being reduced by one flight per week. Last winter they had reduced SNA to 6 weekly later in the winter season but this year appears to be for the whole winter.

Westjet is continuing to show some decent gains at YVR. Just a sign of the economic times I suppose.

YEG's losses are just business decisions. Nothing to do with emotion. Both YYC and YEG will be down this winter. YYC losing about 5 flights a day overall. YEG losing about 7 flights per day. YEG is geographically disadvantaged compared to YYC so it makes sense to consolidate more ops at YYC during economic slowdowns. Even if the downturn in YYC is worse than YEG. Westjet is doing now what Air Canada started doing a few years ago by shifting capacity out of YEG. But the AC bashing there will continue regardless.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2016, 8:27 PM
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YVR 1H 2016 Pax Stats

Although the detailed breakdown isn't uploaded yet....

This blog entry certainly paints a very rosy picture for June 2016!

http://www.yvr.ca/en/blog/yvr-air-traffic-six-month-update

Growth Highlights Jan - Jun 2016

Overall 10.5 million pax up 8.1%
Domestic up 7.6%
Transborder up 3.8%
International up 13.7%

International breakdown:

Latin America up 20.0%
Asia Pacific up 12.9%
Europe up 12.9%

Since the YTD figures at June exceed the YTD figures at May in each category this means June growth would have exceeded by at least May's YTD % growth in each category too. In some cases quite a bit.

To hit 10.5 million YVR would have had to have exceeded 2 million passengers in June (or have come pretty damn close!)

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Old Posted Aug 3, 2016, 11:02 PM
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Finally those crazy numbers I've been yearning for!

A little reverse engineering gives us the growth figures for the month:

Domestic: 991,269 (up 9.1%)
Transborder: 488,924 (up 7.2%)
Asia Pacific: 310,466 (up 13.4%)
Europe: 195,779 (up 19.1%)
Misc Intl: 33,967 (up 78.0%) <---- WTF?!?

Total Intl: 540,211 (up 18.2%)

Total PAX: 2,020,404 (up 10.9%)

These numbers are just nuts. Not much else to say about it.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2016, 11:23 PM
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Finally those crazy numbers I've been yearning for!

A little reverse engineering gives us the growth figures for the month:

Domestic: 991,269 (up 9.1%)
Transborder: 488,924 (up 7.2%)
Asia Pacific: 310,466 (up 13.4%)
Europe: 195,779 (up 19.1%)
Misc Intl: 33,967 (up 78.0%) <---- WTF?!?

Total Intl: 540,211 (up 18.2%)

Total PAX: 2,020,404 (up 10.9%)

These numbers are just nuts. Not much else to say about it.
I was hoping somebody would do this!

On the Great Ocean Road and was just lying in bed listening to the waves crashing on the beach with my iphone when I saw the tweet from YVR.

This growth should carrry on for the next few months.
     
     
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These are very impressive numbers. Thanks for breaking them down.
     
     
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Someone should share these amazing numbers in the Canada Airport thread. I don't know how or I would do it myself.
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2016, 7:27 AM
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I already did, no replies on it. I noticed on the Canada threads people do not like when there's positive news on BC or Vancouver. I post quite a bit on the Canada Economy and Stats Can threads, and no one ever comments when it's positive news from BC lol... I think there's definitely jealousy right now with the rest of Canada (highest GDP growth, highest employment growth, lowest unemplyment in the country, and of course.. YVR growing at over 8% YTD, more than double that of YYC, YEG, YUL)
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2016, 6:09 AM
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I already did, no replies on it. I noticed on the Canada threads people do not like when there's positive news on BC or Vancouver. I post quite a bit on the Canada Economy and Stats Can threads, and no one ever comments when it's positive news from BC lol... I think there's definitely jealousy right now with the rest of Canada (highest GDP growth, highest employment growth, lowest unemplyment in the country, and of course.. YVR growing at over 8% YTD, more than double that of YYC, YEG, YUL)
I wouldn't worry about all that. I just read some articles on the booming film industry as well. Last year was already a record and this year is miles ahead of last year. Studios having to turn productions away. All of these economic factors really help boost YVR's numbers.

I'm just impressed with YVR's growth in general. And the international growth is phenomenal. Definitely solidifying YVR as not just the second busiest in the country but for international as well. YYZ is clearly in a league of its own of course.
Also YVR domestic has exceeded YYC domestic now for two months. YYC domestic has been leading YVR for a few years now.
Still waiting for the actual numbers for June as the rounding to 10.5 million could mean a bit of a variance from what Lefty posted but will be pretty damn close.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2016, 5:59 PM
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Vancouver International Airport planning major terminal expansion after record growth

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-international-terminal-expansion

Canada’s second busiest and largest airport is poised to experience another consecutive record breaking year for the number of passengers that travel through the airport. Vancouver International Airport (YVR) clocked 10.5 million passengers during the first half of 2016 from January to 2016, representing an 8.5% increase over the same period last year.

This comprises of a 13.7% increase in international traffic, 7.6% increase in domestic traffic, and a 3.8% increase in transborder traffic to and from the United States.

By the end of the year, the airport projects that it will see 21.3 million passengers – one million more passengers than the previous year.

Most of the growth can be attributed to the decision by a number of airlines to introduce new frequent, non-stop services to the airport in 2015 and during the first two quarters of this year. This includes new major WestJet services to London and Hamilton in Ontario and London, UK as well as Air Canada’s new services to Brisbane, Chicago, Dublin, San Diego, and San Jose.


More services are to be added throughout the latter half of the year. Just last week, Xiamen Airlines launched a new three times weekly service to Xiamen, China, and Air Canada plans to start a three times weekly service to Delhi, India beginning on October 20.

Additionally, WestJet plans to boost its existing routes with more frequent flights, adding 47 new weekly flights to the airport beginning in October 2016 on routes to Kelowna, Prince George, Toronto, Honolulu, Cancun, Cabo San Lucas, and Los Angeles. The airline’s direct seasonal service to Montreal will also be extended to the winter months.

“I would like to thank Air Canada, WestJet and our airline partners, who have contributed to a fantastic period of growth for our airport and our region,” said Craig Richmond, President and CEO of the Vancouver Airport Authority, in a statement. “Thanks to the ongoing support of our airline partners and the hard work of our team, which includes local tourism bodies, we are achieving our vision—to make YVR a world-class connecting hub.”

Last year, YVR saw a record 20.3 million passengers, representing a 4.9% increase over 2014’s cumulative figure of 19.4 million. The airport has seen record-breaking growth since 2013 when it recorded 17.9 million passengers, and it has a stated goal of reaching 25 million passengers by 2020.

YVR is expected to release an ambitious terminal building expansion plan to accommodate the projected growth next year as the facilities currently have a capacity for 25 million passengers.

A $400 million expansion to add 10 gates to the international terminal and old domestic piers could be completed by the end of the decade if the project is approved this year.

During a Vancouver Board of Trade presentation last year, Vancouver Airport Authority President and CEO Craig Richmond provided a glimpse of the options being considered for the bulk of the expansion work after 2020. It would consist of at least 20 more gates either as a massive new terminal building east of the existing transborder terminal, an extension of the existing piers, or an in-field terminal that is accessible to passengers by tunnel or shuttle.

“The numbers show we are well on the way towards reaching our ambitious goal of 25 million passengers by 2020,” Richmond told Daily Hive today. “As we approach that important milestone we are assessing terminal expansion options and we’ll have more specific information on that in early 2017.”

New and improved major YVR routes 2015/2016

March 15, 2015: Manila, Philippines and New York City, U.S.A. – Philippine Airlines adds four weekly flights to its route from Manila to NYC, with a stop in Vancouver.

March 29, 2015: Paris, France – Air France begins three times weekly non-stop flight service, with five times weekly schedules during the summer months.

May 1, 2015: Osaka, Japan – Air Canada Rouge begins five times weekly service to Kansai International Airport.

June 26, 2015: Kungming, China – China Eastern Airlines begins three times weekly flight service via Shanghai.

December 9, 2015: Mexico City, Mexico – Aeromexico to begin daily non-stop flight service.

January 1, 2016: Orlando International Airport – WestJet to begin twice weekly non-stop seasonal flight service.

January 20, 2016: Orlando-Sanford International Airport – National Airlines to begin two times weekly seasonal flight service.

February 15, 2016: Cancun, Mexico – Air Canada to begin weekly, non-stop seasonal service.

May 1, 2016: London Heathrow Airport – British Airways to use an AirBus A380 superjumbo jet for its existing daily non-stop London Heathrow Airport service. The A380 will only be used during the summer months.

May 6, 2016: London Gatwick Airport – WestJet to begin six times weekly non-stop flight service.

May 9, 2016: Norman Y. Mineta San Jose International Airport – Air Canada to begin twice daily, non-stop service to San Jose.

June 1, 2016: Brisbane, Australia – Air Canada to begin daily non-stop flight service.

June 2, 2016: San Diego International Airport – Air Canada to begin daily, non-stop seasonal service.

June 4, 2016: Chicago O’Hare International Airport – Air Canada to begin daily, non-stop service.

June 10, 2016: Dublin Airport – Air Canada to begin seasonal non-stop flight service.

June 29, 2016: London, Ontario – WestJet to begin four times weekly non-stop seasonal flight service.

June 29, 2016: Halifax, Nova Scotia – WestJet to begin four times weekly non-stop seasonal flight service.

June 30, 2016: Hamilton, Ontario – WestJet to begin three times weekly non-stop seasonal flight service.

July 25, 2016: Xiamen, China – Xiamen Airlines to begin three times weekly non-stop flight service.

October 20, 2016: Delhi, India – Air Canada to begin three times weekly non-stop flight service.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2016, 10:52 PM
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If these numbers hols hold up in the 2nd half of the year, we should b over 21.5M pax. Pretty good for a vity wih a population of 2.5

Has anything been saaid about the stat for the start of construction of the 2nd phase o f the west chevron?

Any updates on the ongoing pier A expansion work?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2016, 3:53 AM
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If these numbers hols hold up in the 2nd half of the year, we should b over 21.5M pax. Pretty good for a vity wih a population of 2.5

Has anything been saaid about the stat for the start of construction of the 2nd phase o f the west chevron?

Any updates on the ongoing pier A expansion work?
Quite the growth, as you say. I'm wondering if there will ever be a separate Transborder Terminal, such as the East Chevron if the West Chevron is expanded for overseas.
     
     
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Just arrived yesterday on at the Air Canada from London (connecting to Victoria).

YVR needs to work on the connection process a bit. We were late so it become a tight connection. At the top of the stairs for arrivals they were holding in coming passangers. However they were handling out laminated "Quick Connect" cards to permit those making connections to queue jump after the airport agent checked that you had a connection. Only problem is it was just more a mass of people than anything else.

Once downstrairs the signage was not great directing you into the connecting passanger passport screening line. Airport employee checking my boarding pass to ensure that I do have a connection and collect the card.

The customs agent asks silly questions, stamped the customs card and ask for my connecting boarding pass to scan it to auto transfer the bags. (Not having to collect bag is a positive step).

At then end of the walkway another customs agent collects the custom card. Then directs me to an Air Canada agent standing just in front of the elevator who checks the connecting flight boarding pass, scans it and directs me onto the elevators heading up to "quick connect". Up the escalator, down the hall and guess what another airport agent who again scans my boarding pass and directly me into another queue, this time for security. Boarding pass gets scanned again. Only one x-ray lane operating and a pretty full line up.

After standing in the queue for 10-15 minutes, another agent comes along and says any one who is on a flight that is already boarding you should go down stairs to regular security because it will be faster. We get pulled out of this line, they put little YVR stickers on our boarding passes and we get send downstairs to the main security point Nexus line. Boarding pass gets scanned again, and into a priority lane that is no shorter that where we had been upstairs. The gate for the Victoria flight was changed, but all the display boards still point to the old gate.

I like YVR but the connection process needs to be improved. The process is more complex than YYZ and does not quit work well.

Similar experience about a month ago coming from Chicago and connecting onto Victoria. The only difference is after taking the elevator, down the quick connect walkway, that security point is closed off and the airport agent is simply scanning boarding passes and directing people back downstairs to regular security.
     
     
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Saw from a Chinese forum that a leaked internal document shows China Eastern is looking at Xian - Vancouver as one of the possible new routes for Winter/Spring 2017.
     
     
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2015 Canadian Airport Cargo Stats

Cargo Stats for 2015

Tonnes of cargo and % change from 2014:

1 YYZ 367,983 up 3.1%
2 YVR 238,096 up 9.6%
3 YHM 110,797 up 24.5%
4 YYC 83,154 down 2.8%
5 YUL 79,800 up 4.0%
6 YMX 70,185 up 9.4%
7 YWG 65,878 up 7.6%
8 YQM 28,986 up 36.3%
9 YEG 27,918 up 1.1%
10 YHZ 26,703 down 6.9%

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/51-203-x/2015000/t005-eng.htm

YVR holding its own at #2 with decent growth.
YHM and YQM had insane growth in 2015.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 8, 2016, 10:07 AM
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Saw from a Chinese forum that a leaked internal document shows China Eastern is looking at Xian - Vancouver as one of the possible new routes for Winter/Spring 2017.
Skies the limit for YVR and new China routes!
     
     
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Saw from a Chinese forum that a leaked internal document shows China Eastern is looking at Xian - Vancouver as one of the possible new routes for Winter/Spring 2017.
Xi'an-Vancouver surprises me that no one is on the route yet. Would be neat to see China Eastern come to YVR triple daily (14 to PVG/KUN and 7 to XIY)

Anything for winter spring would need to be announced relatively soon I would imagine, and once again we're back to speculating on whether there is any capacity remaining to China.
     
     
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