[North Vancouver] Lower Lonsdale | Rebirth of a Neighbourhood

[mcminsen]

West Quay on Esplanade.



July 17 '16, my pics

[Pinion]

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[Vin]

I think we would've save billions of dollars over the past decades if all buildings were built out of brick, mortar or concrete from the start. People should also note that cities around the world with the most fire halls or stations per area are also cities with the most wooden buildings.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by Vin

I think we would've save billions of dollars over the past decades if all buildings were built out of brick, mortar or concrete from the start. People should also note that cities around the world with the most fire halls or stations per area are also cities with the most wooden buildings.

Brick isn't a good material seismically. That's why you don't see it around here much.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Vin

I think we would've save billions of dollars over the past decades if all buildings were built out of brick, mortar or concrete from the start. People should also note that cities around the world with the most fire halls or stations per area are also cities with the most wooden buildings.

That's why god invented sprinkler systems.

[Smooth]

I was down in Lower Lonsdale yesterday and had an opportunity to drive past Trophy at the Pier... holy crap that's a giant blank concrete wall on the east side of the building. How did that ever get approved?

I would take the mess of spandrel glass on some of the Vancouver towers any day over this:
Google Street View

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Smooth

I was down in Lower Lonsdale yesterday and had an opportunity to drive past Trophy at the Pier... holy crap that's a giant blank concrete wall on the east side of the building. How did that ever get approved?

I would take the mess of spandrel glass on some of the Vancouver towers any day over this:
Google Street View

I guess there isn't a huge market of people who want to look at and listen to the noise from a shipyard.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

That's why god invented sprinkler systems.

Tell that to the person who died in this Lower Lonsdale fire. Why tell me?

[Millennium2002]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I guess there isn't a huge market of people who want to look at and listen to the noise from a shipyard.

What I don't get is why it's not one solid concrete wall... The fact that they punctuated it with little windows here and there just makes it look even more tacky and cheap...

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Vin

Tell that to the person who died in this Lower Lonsdale fire. Why tell me?

Touche.

[Millennium2002]

I forget if buildings of that vintage had sprinkler systems.

In any case the timing of the post was rather unfortunate in light of the new circumstances...

[Coldrsx]

Sprinklers do f all and sometimes more damage. Heavy timber (glulam) or CLT or LVLs period for multifam.

[Pinion]

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[retro_orange]

Originally Posted by allan_kuan

I forget if buildings of that vintage had sprinkler systems.

In any case the timing of the post was rather unfortunate in light of the new circumstances...

I live in one of these low rise wood frame buildings from 1968. We have sprinklers in the basement parkade and laundry room but not above ground in the wood section where it's needed. I believe the code at the time only required them on the parkade level. It's really the main shortfall of these older wood frame buildings is they all require extensive and expensive fire code upgrades such as running sprinklers throughout the building and replacing ill-fitting wooden fire break doors with steel. Most of the fire doors don't even close in my building...

[retro_orange]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Sprinklers do f all and sometimes more damage. Heavy timber (glulam) or CLT or LVLs period for multifam.

It's been proven that sprinklers that produce a fine spray that evenly covers all surfaces will more effectively extinguish a fire then most other fire suppression technology. however the technology has changed greatly in just the past decade, you may be thinking of old type sprinklers that just gush out water without evenly dispersing the water.

[djmk]

Apparently an elderly lady on one of the top floors totally refused to leave this fire until she knew her dog would be rescued.

that's just crazy

[jozero]

Not to heap too much praise on W&M in case their ego over inflates, but man what a great selection of retail. Nice eclectic mix.

- A pastry chef that trained with the greats is opening in the redone green heritage building
- what is looking to be a great candy / chocolate shop. They have announced their arrival by filling the windows with balloons. Awesome.
- a sushi place
- browns social house in an area that could use solid anchor watering hole for the area.

[mcminsen]

I found this older pic of mine of West Quay on Esplanade so I can put it with the more recent one for a before and after, ten weeks apart.



May 8 '16, my pic



July 17 '16, my pic

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by jozero

Not to heap too much praise on W&M in case their ego over inflates, but man what a great selection of retail. Nice eclectic mix.

- A pastry chef that trained with the greats is opening in the redone green heritage building
- what is looking to be a great candy / chocolate shop. They have announced their arrival by filling the windows with balloons. Awesome.
- a sushi place
- browns social house in an area that could use solid anchor watering hole for the area.

Actually does sound like it will be decent.

Chef Jane Copeland is the proud owner of Lift Breakfast Bakery Ltd. With both culinary and pastry/baking training, Jane has built her career at some of Canada's top restaurants including Chambar (Vancouver), Mission Hill Family Estate Winery (Kelowna) and The Wickanninish Inn (Tofino).

Driven by a passion to excel at her craft and explore a genuine curiosity for the limitless creative potential of gastronomy, Jane travelled to Spain in 2010 to work at three Michelin star restaurant Arzak in San Sebastian. Upon her return to Canada, determined more than ever to advance her skill and technique in the kitchen, Jane accepted a once in a lifetime opportunity to return to Spain and work the final season in the pastry kitchen of the world's best restaurant, El Bulli.

http://liftonlonsdale.ca/

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Sprinklers do f all and sometimes more damage. Heavy timber (glulam) or CLT or LVLs period for multifam.

If the roof catches fire, or fire starts on the exterior of wood buildings, sprinklers won't do much, and the smoke still kills, especially if someone is sleeping. Even when sprinklers manage to put out internal fires and the smokes don't kill you, you'll lose everything, including the unburnt part of the property, from severe water damage. Think of what this has been doing to our insurance premiums from day 1, and the insane amount invested in fire rescue services. Wood rots, catches fire, turns mouldy, is a terrible sound insulator, creaks, and yes, housing made from it is more prone to collapsing after an earthquake, or swept away by tsunamis. So it amazes me that people are still brainwashed into thinking that wood structures are an acceptable form of housing.