YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 472

trofirhen · #**9421** Posted **Jul 11, 2016, 10:03 PM**

http://www.tripsta.co.uk/image/flights-airlines--qatar_airways_boeing_787_j29v5r--620x300.jpg
... or would it siphon off too much traffic?
Also, QATAR is part of One World. Does this mean they adhere to "the rules" more than EK, which wants an "Open Sky World," to fly wherever they want, or is there no difference in policy?

LeftCoaster · #**9422** Posted **Jul 11, 2016, 10:37 PM**

I doubt Qatar being part of One World makes a difference, they still operate under a different set of subsidy circumstances than most airlines outside of the ME3.

If the ME3 were open to limited slots at Canadian airports I think their presence in YVR/YUL could work without being too disruptive but as far as I've heard they want much more than that or nothing.

trofirhen · #**9423** Posted **Jul 11, 2016, 11:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I doubt Qatar being part of One World makes a difference, they still operate under a different set of subsidy circumstances than most airlines outside of the ME3.

If the ME3 were open to limited slots at Canadian airports I think their presence in YVR/YUL could work without being too disruptive but as far as I've heard they want much more than that or nothing.

Which is maybe why getting TURKISH is such a better option. Also TK has a catchment area much more conducive to Vancouver.
The ME3 are already at 180° Longitude around the world from YVR. Example: DBX is exactly 180°L east of Vancouver. Going further east than that from YVR is like backtracking.
Anything eastward therefrom is quicker over the Pacific. IST serves an area with a large dispora in Vancouver, and makes a lot more sense in every way, geographically and politically. (*A)

Klazu · #**9424** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 12:57 AM**

Why did the Qatar plane land at YVR? Some kind of promotional event or they got re-routed from somewhere else?

nname · #**9425** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 1:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Why did the Qatar plane land at YVR? Some kind of promotional event or they got re-routed from somewhere else?

Private charter

Klazu · #**9426** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 1:45 AM**

So another Arabian prince shopping around for few vacation homes.

mezzanine · #**9427** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 5:22 AM**

Yeef, I wonder if WestJet will keep up with the Gatwick flights in the future...

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WestJet flights to London prompting a wave of complaints and compensation

...WestJet announced its service to London a little more than a year ago, its first overseas destination for the four wide-bodied Boeing 767 jets that it bought from Qantas. Those jets have an average age of 24 years, which is the core of the problem. They began to have mechanical problems.
...
"We're finding that when things break, because some of the parts are so old, we don't have them in store. And then we're doing a global search through the AOG desk to find them and then it's taking two or three days to get these things. We don't want to keep them in stock because they break once every 20 years."

To ease the situation, WestJet contracted an Omni Air jet to stand in when one of the Boeing 767s needs repairs.
....
Ian Procter was on one of those flights, an experience that he describes as a bait-and-switch, since he had made plans to use WestJet's in-flight entertainment system for the nine-hour flight from Calgary to London.

Instead the Omni Jet had no personal entertainment system and no WestJet Connect, which is the service that allows passengers to play content on their iPads. The screens were in the middle aisle, there were no power outlets and less leg room than expected.

"We were not even provided with the basic WestJet plane services and leg room,etc," said Procter in an email. "But yet they are allowed to unilaterally change the conditions of the flight we purchased, departure and arrival times, with no notice or compensation?"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/westjet-struggling-gatwick-flights-1.3670418

Johnny Aussie · #**9428** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 5:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by mezzanine

Yeef, I wonder if WestJet will keep up with the Gatwick flights in the future...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/westjet-struggling-gatwick-flights-1.3670418

Yes, the stories of these delays have been making the rounds in aviation forums but really have escaped the press until recently.

Those old Qantas birds are really giving them grief. They were powerhorses mainly on MEL-SYD back and forth many times a day.

Johnny Aussie · #**9429** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 6:15 AM**

Westjet to PSP

Westjet is moving forward the second daily flight to early November this winter. Last winter the second daily was added in January. Also, they are adding a third flight on Saturdays (new this winter).

Delta to LAS

During the CES (Consumer Electronics Show) DL is adding a daily E75 flight between YVR and LAS for one week (morning departures 2 - 8 January 2017).
During this week DL will have 5 planes RON in YVR and 11 departures per day.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...d-time-new-las-vegas-routes-in-jan-2017/

China Airlines to TPE

Similar to last winter CI will increase YVR - TPE to 11 weekly between 24 Dec 16 and 23 Jan 17. All flights to be operated with 744s.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...jet-codeshare-vancouver-increase-in-w16/

LeftCoaster · #**9430** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

So another Arabian prince shopping around for few vacation homes.

Qatari prince and he goes to UBC I believe.

They sent him a standard A340 though and not the royal plane. Must be the black sheep of the family...

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Westjet to PSP

Westjet is moving forward the second daily flight to early November this winter. Last winter the second daily was added in January. Also, they are adding a third flight on Saturdays (new this winter).

Delta to LAS

During the CES (Consumer Electronics Show) DL is adding a daily E75 flight between YVR and LAS for one week (morning departures 2 - 8 January 2017).
During this week DL will have 5 planes RON in YVR and 11 departures per day.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...d-time-new-las-vegas-routes-in-jan-2017/

China Airlines to TPE

Similar to last winter CI will increase YVR - TPE to 11 weekly between 24 Dec 16 and 23 Jan 17. All flights to be operated with 744s.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...jet-codeshare-vancouver-increase-in-w16/

Couple of nice little moves, good to see the CI flight boosted with a few more code shares too.

When are they going to fix the Taiwan bilateral, with Eva scheduling their last 744 flight there is going to be a capacity crunch soon. Even with their reconfigured 10 abreast 773s.

Also I noted on the depatrure and arrival times of the CI flights with a slight delay to the earlier flight there will be 2 CI 747s at the intl. terminal. Would be a solid sight.

nname · #**9431** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

When are they going to fix the Taiwan bilateral, with Eva scheduling their last 744 flight there is going to be a capacity crunch soon. Even with their reconfigured 10 abreast 773s.

BR just extended the 744 operation for YVR into the summer. YVR would probably be their last 744 long-haul destination after SEA switch to all 773 after March.

LeftCoaster · #**9432** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 6:57 PM**

Summer 2017?

According to AirlineRoute a week ago the last scheduled service of a 747 is actually out of YVR & Sea-Tac and is scheduled for end of March 2017.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...w16-boeing-747-operations/?highlight=EVA

nname · #**9433** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 8:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Summer 2017?

According to AirlineRoute a week ago the last scheduled service of a 747 is actually out of YVR & Sea-Tac and is scheduled for end of March 2017.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...w16-boeing-747-operations/?highlight=EVA

A few days ago they extend 747 ops into summer 2017 for Vancouver

Johnny Aussie · #**9434** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 9:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by nname

A few days ago they extend 747 ops into summer 2017 for Vancouver

Yes, five days ago airlineroute tweeted that EVA will extend YVR 744 ops into summer 2017.

This didn't show up on the airlineroute.net blog site though.

SFUVancouver · #**9435** Posted **Jul 12, 2016, 9:32 PM**

I'm heading down to Australia again for work and am excited to share word that I'll be on Air Canada's YVR-BNE route on one of their new 789 Dreamliners!

Klazu · #**9436** Posted **Jul 13, 2016, 12:07 AM**

Damn you and your constant travels, SFUVancouver!!

NewfBC · #**9437** Posted **Jul 13, 2016, 1:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

I'm heading down to Australia again for work and am excited to share word that I'll be on Air Canada's YVR-BNE route on one of their new 789 Dreamliners!

Hope you're in business class or premium economy.. otherwise it's pretty tight for such a long flight!

Ron.

trofirhen · #**9438** Posted **Jul 13, 2016, 3:11 AM**

Me, I'm off to New Zealand over Christmas for a much-needed break. The first leg of this connexion at Shanghai Pudong, will be Air France on an A388. Totally new for me!

casper · #**9439** Posted **Jul 13, 2016, 5:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Qatari prince and he goes to UBC I believe.

They sent him a standard A340 though and not the royal plane. Must be the black sheep of the family...

These millennials, just cant relate to the rest of the family...

What is an up an coming prince to do on a regular passenger A340 for a 20 hour flight. No gold plated thrown and bed. He has to make do with the First Class cabin used by the commoners.

moosejaw · #**9440** Posted **Jul 13, 2016, 12:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Me, I'm off to New Zealand over Christmas for a much-needed break. The first leg of this connexion at Shanghai Pudong, will be Air France on an A388. Totally new for me!

im off to new zealand in september
Unfortunately ill be flying air new zealand 767 out of LAX