ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 953

atlanta_architect1 · #**19041** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 12:43 PM**

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Decent? It looks absolutely atrocious. Why on earth would they have solid glass and nice wrap-around balconies on on end of the building and literally an empty, bleak gray wall around the Windows on the city-facing side?

If this is all they are going to do, the look of that development is completely ruined in my opinion and is a bad look for the neighborhood as a whole. I'm ashamed that the DRC allows this kind of lazy, cheap design to get through, and it also shows a lack of respect for Atlanta from these developers. They are just trying to build cheap and make a quick buck. Ugghhh

The IBC regulates the percentage of wall openings relative to the distance from the property building or an adjacent building. Azure is built on a small urban site- looks to be about 25% wall openings on that side, which means it is probably within 10-25 feet from the property line.

This has nothing to do with developers trying to make a quick buck. It is REQUIRED.

atlanta_architect1 · #**19042** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 12:47 PM**

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The dark grey looks better than it did, but I'm with you on finding the western facade disrespectful. Coincidentally though, the 11th St project has a similar western facade on both towers, albeit a little more glass, and I haven't heard much complaint about them.

The amount of glass on non right of way facing facades of buildings are regulated by the distance away from the property line. Buildings that are tighter to the property lines are inherently more urban. The trade-off is less glass on the sides of the buildings.

In 10 years when the next building is built next door it won't matter. Buildings in urban cores don't have significant windows on the sides for this reason.

Street Advocate · #**19043** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 1:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by atlanta_architect1

The amount of glass on non right of way facing facades of buildings are regulated by the distance away from the property line. Buildings that are tighter to the property lines are inherently more urban. The trade-off is less glass on the sides of the buildings.

Thank you for the clarifications. Is this a local regulation? Seems silly either way.
I don't think the lots to the west will be developed anytime soon since one is a condo and the other parcel size is tiny.

Terminus · #**19044** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 1:45 PM**

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Thank you for the clarifications. Is this a local regulation? Seems silly either way.
I don't think the lots to the west will be developed anytime soon since one is a condo and the other parcel size is tiny.

No. It's the same everywhere, per the International Building Code. You (generally) can't build many windows on or close to the lot line. it's been this way for decades.

RocketSurgeon · #**19045** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 2:00 PM**

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No. It's the same everywhere, per the International Building Code. You (generally) can't build many windows on or close to the lot line. it's been this way for decades.

That's for fire protection, isn't it?

I'd wait to judge the color until it's done... finishes are often done in several layers.

skyscraper_inspector · #**19046** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 3:19 PM**

http://www.wrsrealestate.com/#!underground-atlanta/pzl7j

Is it just me, or is the lack of street level retail/restaurant space in the block with the grocery and condos an issue?

If you look at Underground Atlanta now, the lack of street engagement is what invites all the blight that exists there now.

Not to mention the GIANT parking lot that is planned to remain.

Why is this dinosaur of a developer the one redeveloping this huge asset that has so much potential?

Ant131531 · #**19047** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 3:32 PM**

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http://www.wrsrealestate.com/#!underground-atlanta/pzl7j

Is it just me, or is the lack of street level retail/restaurant space in the block with the grocery and condos an issue?

If you look at Underground Atlanta now, the lack of street engagement is what invites all the blight that exists there now.

Not to mention the GIANT parking lot that is planned to remain.

Why is this dinosaur of a developer the one redeveloping this huge asset that has so much potential?

Downtown's planning office is so much worse than the Midtown DRC. If this was the Midtown DRC, they would force them to have a lot of retail....it's no wonder Midtown is the hotspot these days while downtown continues to wallow because the planning is horrible.

skyscraper_inspector · #**19048** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 3:35 PM**

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Downtown's planning office is so much worse than the Midtown DRC. If this was the Midtown DRC, they would force them to have a lot of retail....it's no wonder Midtown is the hotspot these days while downtown continues to wallow because the planning is horrible.

Does each neighborhood have a different planning office? It's kind of unclear. I know Midtown has a DRC and there are 26 or 27 NPUs but why doesn't the City of Atlanta have higher standards/more control as a central organization?

smArTaLlone · #**19049** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 5:16 PM**

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98 14th Street:

What I am looking at shows the new design with a reduction from three towers to two towers, but both towers are 70 floors each. Can Foxmcleod or bigstick (or anyone else) confirm this?

I also understand that they will be moving forward with one tower at a time, not both simultaneously. Even if they build one, it will be a stupendous addition to the skyline, and to the canyon like feel of 14th street. If they build both, and YooPeachtree, SLS, related (u/c), and the 17th&Peachtree towers are built, midtown will be positively enormous. What an exciting time in Atlanta.

Very Interesting. So you've seen renderings?

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**19050** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 6:03 PM**

Which Wich sign is up in its Alta Midtown retail space on W Peachtree

mikeatl77 · #**19051** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 6:48 PM**

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Which Wich sign is up in its Alta Midtown retail space on W Peachtree

As is the Taco Bell sign on University House.

TarHeelJ · #**19052** Posted **Jul 2, 2016, 7:25 PM**

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Which Wich sign is up in its Alta Midtown retail space on W Peachtree

I glanced at that too many time before I got it.

AtlantaMustang · #**19053** Posted **Jul 4, 2016, 3:29 PM**

Modera's moving along pretty well now that they're above the parking levels.

This and the NCR HQ bringing this much activity this far west is really going to make midtown feel like more than a north/south strip along Peachtree.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**19054** Posted **Jul 4, 2016, 5:20 PM**

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Modera's moving along pretty well now that they're above the parking levels.

This and the NCR HQ bringing this much activity this far west is really going to make midtown feel like more than a north/south strip along Peachtree.

I agree with the developments here from Peachtree to the connector it's a dense pocket of active use, and only a few properties remaining to redevelop. If 880 develops and Hanover Midtown.

mayhem · #**19055** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 12:01 AM**

Happy 4th y'all!

Let's continue to let this thread be the place where we can find and discuss news on Atlanta Developments. The bickering is counter-productive and only ends up being noise in between valued posts. Come here to contribute, leave the rest for another site.

AtlantaMustang · #**19056** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 12:51 PM**

Took these yesterday.

Midtown Spring and Atlantic House:

Post is done with their parking levels, so should pick up speed now:

TarHeelJ · #**19057** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 1:03 PM**

Another Atlanta icon getting a makeover...good for downtown! http://atlanta.curbed.com/2016/7/5/12095062/colony-square-peachtree-center-cnn-atlanta-renovations

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Not to be outdone, it seems CNN Center is jumping into the fray, though plans for a redo are in very early stages.

Street Advocate · #**19058** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 1:55 PM**

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Post is done with their parking levels, so should pick up speed now

I'm excited to see how the Post tower fills in the skyline, if at all. IMO, this and the midrise Hanover project are great infill for the area and I'm really looking forward to their completion.

MdtwnATL · #**19059** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 2:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by atlanta_architect1

The IBC regulates the percentage of wall openings relative to the distance from the property building or an adjacent building. Azure is built on a small urban site- looks to be about 25% wall openings on that side, which means it is probably within 10-25 feet from the property line.

This has nothing to do with developers trying to make a quick buck. It is REQUIRED.

Doesn't mean that it couldn't be clad in something else. Anything but just slapping gray paint on concrete.

Martinman · #**19060** Posted **Jul 5, 2016, 3:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Took these yesterday.

Post is done with their parking levels, so should pick up speed now:

Nice shot.. I think we forget that Post broke ground around the same as Modera. It just shows the difference in construction time between a precast deck (Azure, Skyhouse ) and one poured on site.