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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 3:08 PM
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With a max range of 6112km, according to Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_CSeries, they could likely be deployed anywhere in N.A. or the Caribbean, I'm guessing some long and thin transcon routes could also be a possibility.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 3:33 PM
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With a max range of 6112km, according to Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_CSeries, they could likely be deployed anywhere in N.A. or the Caribbean, I'm guessing some long and thin transcon routes could also be a possibility.
Yes. It's a direct competitor to the 737-700. If those numbers are right, it consumes half as much fuel.

It will be interesting to see if we get uptake of these jets. Bombardier took on considerable risk but this category of jet can be a very lucrative sector, as the 737s are the workhorses of domestic fleets.

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The difference is Greyhound Air operated a hub service in Winnipeg with a daily west-bound bank and a daily east bank.

Basically four of five aircraft would depart eastern Canada for Winnipeg. Arrive at around the same time permitting connection then depart for western Canada destination. The reverse would also happen in the opposite direction. I think it was Boeing 727 service. Pretty close to daily service. When laidlawy purchased Greyhound they pulled the plug on the service.

These guys appear to be flying from secondary airports to secondary airports with no real hub strategy.
Yes, it's an EasyJet/RyanAir/Allegiant Strategy. It's always nice to see more competition in the skies.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 4:58 PM
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Yes. It's a direct competitor to the 737-700
As Air Canada doesn't operate the 737-700, I'm guessing they'll will replace their A319s and some A320s with the CS300's, the 737MAX-8's will replace the A321s and the remainder of the A320s as most ( A320s ) are from the early 1990's. Delta is using the majority of their CS100 orders to replace their MD-80 series planes.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 6:23 PM
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Echoing Connect2Source, I expect that Air Canada's first order of CSeries will be primarily used by Rouge, in lieu of their 20 A319s, along with some mainline service as a replacement for the remaining A319s. Should Air Canada convert its remaining 30 options to firm orders, I expect that those would be used to phase out the Embraer E-Jets. Air Canada operates 25 of the 97-passenger E-190 (not including feeder Air Canada Express E-175 fleets) so an order of 30 CSeries would let them do a one-for-one replacement with room to grow. However, it would be quite a jump from the ~100-seat E-190 to the 135-seat CS300, so I could see Air Canada opting to convert its remaining 30 CSeries options into the 110-seat CS100. Then again, if the price is right, and the operating economics are what has been advertised, having the extra capacity at modest additional cost might still pencil for Air Canada and make up-gauging formerly E-190 routes to the CS300 capacity a strong commercial prospect. For example, the E-190 puts in regular multiple-daily YVR-LAX service and the times that I have been on that plane it's always been full. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but I bet that there's a case to be made. Plus a standardized Air Canada CSeries fleet of CS300 aircraft maximizes their interchangeability and scheduling flexibility.

Air Canada's large order of 33 737Max-8 and 28 737Max-9s will let them replace their aging mainline A320 and A321 fleets, respectively, and expand domestic/transborder narrowbody service. Rouge's A321s are brand new, so I expect that those will be in service for years to come and more than a few of the younger A320s and A321s from mainline service will migrate through Rouge before being sold off for good.

Anyway, good to see Air Canada finalize the purchase of their first 45 CSeries. I'm looking forward to flying them in the years to come.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 6:58 PM
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Is YVR-AKL daily ?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 7:59 PM
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As Air Canada doesn't operate the 737-700, I'm guessing they'll will replace their A319s and some A320s with the CS300's, the 737MAX-8's will replace the A321s and the remainder of the A320s as most ( A320s ) are from the early 1990's. Delta is using the majority of their CS100 orders to replace their MD-80 series planes.
New coverage from the time suggest the CS300 are being used to replace the Embraer fleet. All said, they usually make these decisions years before the aircraft is delivered. By the time they start to be delivered the economy can have changed and the business strategy may have changed.

I would guess Rogue will continue to get hand-me-downs in the form of A320 and A321. I could be wrong.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 9:15 PM
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Is YVR-AKL daily ?
Only during the peak winter so early December to late January.

The rest of the year it is 5 weekly during the summer and February and 4 weekly during the slower months.

NZ has been continually increasing the periods where they are daily or 5 weekly and gone are any periods when they are only 3 weekly.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 9:33 PM
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Expect some positive news regarding:

Hainan to Tianjin (788s) - would be fantastic if this originates in Chongqing too.
Beijing Capital Airlines to Qingdao and Hangzhou (332s)

Most likely happening by the end of this year.

Stay tuned for updates.

Imagine.... 7 mainland Chinese Airlines flying into YVR.

That will also be 23 overseas passenger carriers flying into YVR as well. By far the second most of any airport in Canada except for YYZ of course! YVR will also most likely continue to be the fastest growing Canadian airport in 2016 as well. Both for overall growth and international passenger growth.

And there sounds like there may be more to come.... and not just from China perhaps....
Ahh you tease!

Any chance my YVR 2021 prediction had some validity to it? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7470767&postcount=9293

Either way good news about the two Chinese carriers, it had gone quite quiet, at least on the Beijing Capital front.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 9:36 PM
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Mexican Visas

Effective 1 December, Mexican nationals will no longer be required to have Visas to visit Canada, including TWOV.

This should help further Mexican originating travelers.

Possibly see new routes from GDL and MTY plus more capacity to MEX? Perhaps we will see Volaris? Interjet?

http://www.yvr.ca/en/media/news-releases...requirements-lifted-for-mexican-citizens

There also appears to be something developing with one of the Chinese carriers using YVR as a transit stop to MEX.

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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 9:38 PM
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Ahh you tease!

Any chance my YVR 2021 prediction had some validity to it? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7470767&postcount=9293

Either way good news about the two Chinese carriers, it had gone quiet quiet, at least on the Beijing Capital front.
Ha ha.

2021 is only 5 years away.... Some of that looks very likely.

Hainan will most likely have to operate both routes until Beijing Capital gets ETOPS certified.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 10:08 PM
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Effective 1 December, Mexican nationals will no longer be required to have Visas to visit Canada, including TWOV.

This should help boost further Mexican originating travelers.

Possibly see new routes from GDL and MTY plus more capacity to MEX? Perhaps we will see Volaris.

http://www.yvr.ca/en/media/news-releases...requirements-lifted-for-mexican-citizens

There also appears to be something developing with one of the Chinese carriers using YVR as a transit stop to MEX.
About damn time.

Using YVR as a MEX stop makes a lot of sense, especially when looking at the great circle route. My guess is it would be someone from the South of China, since PEK could easily make it without a stop. Maybe China Southern?

Either way should help keep the planes full and possibly provide some more frequencies. Would be nice to see Volaris or ViviAerobus up here too, they have pretty planes!

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Ha ha.

2021 is only 5 years away.... Some of that looks very likely.

Hainan will most likely have to operate both routes until Beijing Capital gets ETOPS certified.
Ya 2021 seems awfully close, but with YVR stating they want to be at 25 million by 2020 this growth actually matches it, assuming the lions share of growth will be coming from Intl growth, as it has the last few years.

Interestingly enough if anything this doesn't quite match what would be needed for 2020 levels of 25 million PAX, given that winter would be lower, but it's pretty damn close.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 10:47 PM
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Effective 1 December, Mexican nationals will no longer be required to have Visas to visit Canada, including TWOV.

This should help boost further Mexican originating travelers.

Possibly see new routes from GDL and MTY plus more capacity to MEX? Perhaps we will see Volaris.

http://www.yvr.ca/en/media/news-releases...requirements-lifted-for-mexican-citizens

There also appears to be something developing with one of the Chinese carriers using YVR as a transit stop to MEX.
Love to see GDL and MTY !!!! Both big cities, and Monterrey a financial centre.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2016, 11:12 PM
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Echoing Connect2Source, I expect that Air Canada's first order of CSeries will be primarily used by Rouge, in lieu of their 20 A319s, along with some mainline service as a replacement for the remaining A319s. Should Air Canada convert its remaining 30 options to firm orders, I expect that those would be used to phase out the Embraer E-Jets. Air Canada operates 25 of the 97-passenger E-190 (not including feeder Air Canada Express E-175 fleets) so an order of 30 CSeries would let them do a one-for-one replacement with room to grow. However, it would be quite a jump from the ~100-seat E-190 to the 135-seat CS300, so I could see Air Canada opting to convert its remaining 30 CSeries options into the 110-seat CS100. Then again, if the price is right, and the operating economics are what has been advertised, having the extra capacity at modest additional cost might still pencil for Air Canada and make up-gauging formerly E-190 routes to the CS300 capacity a strong commercial prospect. For example, the E-190 puts in regular multiple-daily YVR-LAX service and the times that I have been on that plane it's always been full. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but I bet that there's a case to be made. Plus a standardized Air Canada CSeries fleet of CS300 aircraft maximizes their interchangeability and scheduling flexibility.

Air Canada's large order of 33 737Max-8 and 28 737Max-9s will let them replace their aging mainline A320 and A321 fleets, respectively, and expand domestic/transborder narrowbody service. Rouge's A321s are brand new, so I expect that those will be in service for years to come and more than a few of the younger A320s and A321s from mainline service will migrate through Rouge before being sold off for good.

Anyway, good to see Air Canada finalize the purchase of their first 45 CSeries. I'm looking forward to flying them in the years to come.
The first 737max aircraft will be used to replace the mainline 321s. The mainline 321s will be used to replace rouge 319s on a 1:1 basis.

The 737max aircraft replace the 321 and 320 fleet with the 320s being broken up or returned to lessor to then be broken up. The first 10-15 320s require some serious computer upgrades to remain viable beyond 2020.

The CS300/100 order replaces the E90 and mainline 319 fleets with 2 aircraft for growth.

The CS300 would not be a good fit for rouge. Actually the 319s are not a good fit at present, AC only needs about 1/2 the rouge 319 fleet and could use a larger narrowbody aircraft for another 10 aircraft. This is why AC brought in 321s to rogue and retained 5 319s at mainline. This is also why rouge 763s are occaisionally used on the transborder to LAS/SFO/LAX (when SFO/LAX Western Canada was rouge flying).

You will see the CS300 on short haul routes where the E90 is currently flying. Once the 25 E90s are replaced, AC will have enough market data to determine where to place the remaining 20 aircraft.

The CS100/300 is a fantastic aircraft from an economy seat perspective, but its horrible from a business seat perspective. Consequently it is not expected to drive front cabin revenue. The unknown factor is whether the CS100/300 will drive traffic in the opposite direction (that is take business class flyers into the economy cabin).
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2016, 2:17 AM
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Great info Cage and SFUVancouver! Thanks!

What will become of the 5 most recent A321's Air Canada recently acquired from Air France? Is this just a stop-gap until the 737MAX-8 and 7's?
     
     
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Philippine Airlines Winter Increase

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...nes-w16-north-america-operation-changes/

PR is reinstating twice weekly terminator services on MNL-YVR.

Also PR increasing MNL-YVR-YYZ from three to four weekly.

So overall PR increases to 10 weekly (from 7 weekly) again beginning early December.

4 weekly on MNL-YVR-JFK-YVR-MNL
4 weekly on MNL-YVR-YYZ-YVR-MNL
2 weekly on MNL-YVR-MNL

All flights to be operated with 77Ws.

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My have missed this before but can you book direct tickets to and from YYZ and JFK to YVR without going or coming from MNL?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2016, 9:14 PM
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My have missed this before but can you book direct tickets to and from YYZ and JFK to YVR without going or coming from MNL?
Only YVR-JFK. PR does not have local traffic rights between YVR-YYZ.

Today marks the first Qantas 744 of the summer season between SYD and YVR... Departs SYD at 1700 SYD time (midnight YVR time) and scheduled to arrive in YVR at 1405 on the 30th YVR time,
     
     
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Westjet new domestic flights

Westjet kicks off its new seasonal domestic routes from YVR today and tomorrow.

Today - first flights to YXU and YHZ.
Tomorrow - the first flight to YHM.
     
     
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My have missed this before but can you book direct tickets to and from YYZ and JFK to YVR without going or coming from MNL?
NYC has surprisingly good service from YVR.

You can fly to JFK on a Cathay 777-300, Philippines 777-300 or a Delta 737-800 and to EWR on an Air Canada dreamliner. Pretty solid options all around.
     
     
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http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...nes-w16-north-america-operation-changes/

PR is reinstating twice weekly terminator services on MNL-YVR.

Also PR increasing MNL-YVR-YYZ from three to four weekly.

So overall PR increases to 10 weekly (from 7 weekly) again beginning early December.

4 weekly on MNL-YVR-JFK-YVR-MNL
4 weekly on MNL-YVR-YYZ-YVR-MNL
2 weekly on MNL-YVR-MNL

All flights to be operated with 77Ws.
So is this an increase from winter 2015 or a resumption of what they did last year?
     
     
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