PITTSBURGH | Development Rundown II

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by AFW523

9th Ward Infill Project

Lawrenceville Corp's Letter of Concern

I loathe the garages so I'd like to see them successful in that opposition. Setback concerns down there seem minimal because it's such a hodgepodge to begin with. Including the structure directly east of this one...which I believe was at one time a school back in the early part of the 20th century and is either going to get wiped out completely or redone. Overall however I will say that it is at least seems like a step in the right direction from a tastefulness standpoint and perhaps will start the ball rolling away from all of this psuedo-modern, fish out of water stuff they insist on building. That ridiculous glowworm house they built on 44th street will probably sit there until the studs rot.

I hate those garages, they make the whole front of the building one big curb-cut and just ruin the look of the facade. Yuck.

[Austinlee]

Originally Posted by AFW523

9th Ward Infill Project

Lawrenceville Corp's Letter of Concern

I loathe the garages so I'd like to see them successful in that opposition. Setback concerns down there seem minimal because it's such a hodgepodge to begin with. Including the structure directly east of this one...which I believe was at one time a school back in the early part of the 20th century and is either going to get wiped out completely or redone. Overall however I will say that it is at least seems like a step in the right direction from a tastefulness standpoint and perhaps will start the ball rolling away from all of this psuedo-modern, fish out of water stuff they insist on building. That ridiculous glowworm house they built on 44th street will probably sit there until the studs rot.

Originally Posted by GeneW

I hate those garages, they make the whole front of the building one big curb-cut and just ruin the look of the facade. Yuck.

Oh wow. They don't remind me of a Pittsburgh style as much. I can't put my finger on it. I like them. The garages would've been better in rear though.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by AFW523

9th Ward Infill Project

Lawrenceville Corp's Letter of Concern

I loathe the garages so I'd like to see them successful in that opposition. Setback concerns down there seem minimal because it's such a hodgepodge to begin with. Including the structure directly east of this one...which I believe was at one time a school back in the early part of the 20th century and is either going to get wiped out completely or redone. Overall however I will say that it is at least seems like a step in the right direction from a tastefulness standpoint and perhaps will start the ball rolling away from all of this psuedo-modern, fish out of water stuff they insist on building. That ridiculous glowworm house they built on 44th street will probably sit there until the studs rot.

The design isn't terrible with the exception of the garages, which are sadly required by zoning since there are already houses directly behind in the alley. I think any other design solution would be worse. For example you could have less units, which were more narrow front to back, along with a permanent driveway which led to rear-loading garages. Factoring in the space needed for turning, you'd be lucky to get three decent sized units that way.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by Austinlee

Oh wow. They don't remind me of a Pittsburgh style as much. I can't put my finger on it. I like them. The garages would've been better in rear though.

They remind me of the fake historic stuff you can find in Atlanta.

[Austinlee]

Originally Posted by eschaton

They remind me of the fake historic stuff you can find in Atlanta.

Yeah, I think that I am thinking Houston, Texas for this type of infill a lot.

[photoLith]

So, I went for a bike ride today and took photos of most of the developments going on in the city, I missed a few because towards the end I felt like I was going to pass out from heat exhaustion...

The way I went today, pretty much all the mahor new development in the city is within this loop, which is interesting.
cccc by photolitherland, on Flickr

POT_6657 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Larwencville

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POT_6665 by photolitherland, on Flickr
43rd Street, Lville

POT_6667 by photolitherland, on Flickr
43rd Street

POT_6669 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Recently restored 1850s or so house on 44th St in Lville

POT_6671 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Another recently restored house on 44th

POT_6673 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Recently completed restoration on Butler and 42nd that was horribly ugly before

POT_6674 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Butler and 36th

POT_6678 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Butler St next to Doughboy Statue

POT_6680 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Butler and 34th

POT_6682 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Recently restored building on Butler and 32nd in The Strip

POT_6686 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Railroad St in the Strip

POT_6688 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Railroad and 26th

POT_6689 by photolitherland, on Flickr
New parking garage going up across the street on 26th and railroad

POT_6690 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Smallman and 26th

POT_6691 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Looking down 26th towards Railroad St

POT_6692 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Smallman and 25th

POT_6694 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Smallman and 24th

POT_6696 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Looking east on Smallman

POT_6699 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Market Square

POT_6701 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Looks like theyre restoring the Joseph Horne Building

POT_6703 by photolitherland, on Flickr
These buildings will be restored soon on Wood St

POT_6704 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Point Park Playhouse

POT_6706 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Smithfield and Oliver

POT_6708 by photolitherland, on Flickr
They just took the scaffolding off the Union Trust Building, not sure when they will finish this project.

POT_6713 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Restoration of the Salvation Army Building

POT_6714 by photolitherland, on Flickr
The Holiday Inn or whatever hotel is going at a slow pace on Cherry Way and Fort Pitt Blvd

POT_6715 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Restoration going on East Carson and South 5th St

POT_6717 by photolitherland, on Flickr
SouthSide Works

POT_6718 by photolitherland, on Flickr
SouthSide Works

POT_6722 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Hot Metal Flats on the right

POT_6724 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Looking down Forbes Avenue

POT_6727 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Demolition of the buildings for Carnegie Mellon have begun on Forbes next to the bridge

POT_6729 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Looking down Forbes with the new Carnegie Mellon building going up, forget whats going there. Student center or something.

POT_6732 by photolitherland, on Flickr
New student fitness center at Carnegie Mellon

POT_6734 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Baumhaus on Baum Blvd and S Graham St

POT_6736 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Centre Ave

POT_6738 by photolitherland, on Flickr
The Penn

POT_6741 by photolitherland, on Flickr
The Penn

POT_6744 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Penn Avenue and S Mathilda Street

POT_6747 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Restoration and new house being built on Edmond St and Penn Avenue

POT_6639 by photolitherland, on Flickr

POT_6652 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Strawberry Way with the new art on it.

POT_6603-2 by photolitherland, on Flickr

POT_6648-2 by photolitherland, on Flickr
Also took a photo of this fountain, which doesnt look new but I dont recall it ever being there before.

[Gilamonster]

Thanks for all of the photos and congrats on a good workout!

[eschaton]

New HRC presentation has been posted. Mostly small projects, but there are a few notable things in the presentation. Mostly the continued restoration of the August Wilson house, along with the plans for the new brewery in the old fire house in the Mexican War Streets.

[chiaroscuro]

Need to do something about the above-ground power lines in the Strip.

I know, it's expensive.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by chiaroscuro

Need to do something about the above-ground power lines in the Strip.

I know, it's expensive.

The Strip has alleys behind almost every block. There's no need to bury the power lines.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by eschaton

The Strip has alleys behind almost every block. There's no need to bury the power lines.

Even just moving the lines to the back alleys is a huge undertaking. Allegheny West has been working on that for the two blocks of the Western Avenue business district for a decade now and it's finally about to happen this year. Think about the fact that every single building will have to be rewired to have their service enter from the alley instead of the street. Multiply the number of buildings by the cost to redo the service entrance and you're getting into a lot of money.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by GeneW

Even just moving the lines to the back alleys is a huge undertaking. Allegheny West has been working on that for the two blocks of the Western Avenue business district for a decade now and it's finally about to happen this year. Think about the fact that every single building will have to be rewired to have their service enter from the alley instead of the street. Multiply the number of buildings by the cost to redo the service entrance and you're getting into a lot of money.

No doubt. Of course in much of the Strip, there's only a handful of buildings per block, so I'd think the logistics would be a bit easier than Allegheny West.

[ceb426]

Some more info on Nova Place on Devmap.io

[Don't Be That Guy]

Originally Posted by eschaton

No doubt. Of course in much of the Strip, there's only a handful of buildings per block, so I'd think the logistics would be a bit easier than Allegheny West.

The problem with moving those lines in the Strip isn't the number of buildings, it's that the lines on Smallman are the primary utility feeds from Downtown into Lawrenceville up to 35th Street. Spruce Way doesn't have a completely open right-of-way, and there isn't enough room on Spring Way to accommodate all of those additional lines. That leaves either relocating that utility mess to either Penn or Liberty, or burying everything at a cost of about $1 million per city block.

So my guess is that they will be there for a while to come and continue to add "character" to the Strip.

[Austinlee]

Originally Posted by ceb426

Some more info on Nova Place on Devmap.io

I really hope the finished product is nice. $100 million is a nice chunk of change. The exterior is still so god awful ugly though.

[ceb426]

Originally Posted by Austinlee

I really hope the finished product is nice. $100 million is a nice chunk of change. The exterior is still so god awful ugly though.

Oh trust, me..SAME.

[Steel City Scotty]

Great pictures, Chris. As always, thanks for sharing.

They reminded me that I snapped a quick photo of the former Saks Fifth Avenue site during a recent tour of the Embassy Suites inside of the Oliver Building.

[Dr. Avis the Second]

Hey guys, long time no see ! I've missed it here a lot but I just wanted to make a few observations.

1. I see they want to bring the altar bar to the Lord and there have been some big rumblings about that online for some silly reason. There are plenty of bars here in the north hills to hear bad sinful music. Christians 1, atheists 0!!
2. The new shops at Northway is coming along very nicely. It's going to look beautiful when it's finished just like McCandless crossing and I invite you all to come up! I can't wait see the outlet versions of Saks and Nordstroms for some great night out outfits! You just don't see this in the city.
3. I see Southpointe is BOOMING too and offers a little boy for everyone, even you city lovers. Mylan is expanding there and is bringing lots of good jobs to Western PA just they're doing in Beaver County. It's great to see all of this development happening in the real Western PA full of honest hard working people.

Also, why no mention of the money and people the cup final brought here for a change?

[Dr. Avis the Second]

Wow that's a lot of pictures but they're all small projects. Nothing like what's going on on other areas. Oh well, enjoy it still.

[Dr. Avis the Second]

Those houses remind of what we have at McCandless Crossing too. They look very nice where I am!