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esquire · #**1661** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hecate

I remember reading that hydro only put in the one level of parking to encourage its employees to use public transportation...

Probably the least likely of all explanations IMO.

If they were that concerned about encouraging the use of public transportation they wouldn't have screwed the city on the SWBRTROW.

bomberjet · #**1662** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:30 PM**

There was a post on here recently showing the Hydro tower and the solar chimney thing. Pretty sure it said something about the small parkade to encourage transit. But maybe that's just how they're spinning it. I don't know.

esquire · #**1663** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:33 PM**

^ Sounds like 100% PR spin.

Although I will say that it's a small miracle that there haven't been any attempts at demolishing buildings to create surface lots nearby since the Hydro tower was built. For what it's worth I don't even find parking to be that much more difficult in the vicinity of the Hydro tower compared to before... it went up a few bucks for sure, but the same can be said for any where downtown.

Cyro · #**1664** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

Sorry, you guys no nothing about construction sites. True North likes things kept neat. That is clearly a raised cedar planter box. You can buy them at Home Depot. I think I heard Petunias and Marigolds.

Agreed..lol, I constructed a similar planter, although my supplies were from Rona, for tulips..

smaller size maybe 5' x 5', the added bonus was I filled it with concrete after the season was over and used it for a pedestal for our barbecue....

rkspec · #**1665** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hecate

I remember reading that hydro only put in the one level of parking to encourage its employees to use public transportation...

its many years ago but i though when Hydro downtown opened, the old Hydro building on Taylor was going to be a park and ride (transit) location to downtown Hydro?

i could be wrong

esquire · #**1666** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 5:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by rkspec

its many years ago but i though when Hydro downtown opened, the old Hydro building on Taylor was going to be a park and ride (transit) location to downtown Hydro?

i could be wrong

They do exactly that

http://winnipegtransit.com/en/rider-guide/park-and-rides/

bomberjet · #**1667** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 5:22 PM**

I was hoping to see an updated photo of the site this morning, after the rains. See how much water is in the swimming pool they dug! No new photos yet today.

Cyro · #**1668** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 5:51 PM**

Like the last rain incident, cam was off-line, I guess they're pretty waterlogged at the moment..

Cyro · #**1669** Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 6:56 PM**

They're up and running, worker down in the hole, 12:19pm..

http://www.truenorthsquare.com/development/constructionupdate/

Jets4Life · #**1670** Posted **Jun 19, 2016, 12:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cyro

They're up and running, worker down in the hole, 12:19pm..

http://www.truenorthsquare.com/development/constructionupdate/

I'm very impressed with True North Square. When will it be completed?

Cyro · #**1671** Posted **Jun 19, 2016, 8:30 PM**

^ As far as we know tower #1 - 17 floors, (Office/Scotia Bank) should be completed and ready for occupancy in 2018. Tower #2 - 24 floors, residential, If started in conjunction(likely) with #1, 2019?. This of course doesn't take TN's recent media releases of possibly increasing the floor count due to increased demand for space in the development.

Sutton Place Hotel @ 27 floors and Sutton residences @ 17 floors, are a bit more hazy in predictions. Not much chatter about these 2. I'd guesstimate, 2020 - late 2021.

optimusREIM · #**1672** Posted **Jun 19, 2016, 8:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cyro

^ As far as we know tower #1 - 17 floors, (Office/Scotia Bank) should be completed and ready for occupancy in 2018. Tower #2 - 24 floors, residential, If started in conjunction(likely) with #1, 2019?. This of course doesn't take TN's recent media releases of possibly increasing the floor count due to increased demand for space in the development.

Sutton Place Hotel @ 27 floors and Sutton residences @ 17 floors, are a bit more hazy in predictions. Not much chatter about these 2. I'd guesstimate, 2020 - late 2021.

Speaking of Sutton place. I was under the impression that true north sold the land to the hotel company to develop. Is this true?

Cyro · #**1673** Posted **Jun 19, 2016, 9:02 PM**

Don't know for certain, although in Feb.2016, Sutton Hotel Winnipeg, Inc. was registered at the Manitoba Companies Branch, I believe someone posted some additional information on the topic...

optimusREIM · #**1674** Posted **Jun 19, 2016, 9:27 PM**

I wonder if we're going to get some sort of announcement soon regarding the scope of the project. Maybe something on the status of the hotel component also especially since they've been talking about adding space to the development.

roccerfeller · #**1675** Posted **Jun 19, 2016, 11:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Speaking of Sutton place. I was under the impression that true north sold the land to the hotel company to develop. Is this true?

they must have. the dallas stars owner seemed pretty vested in the project (its his hotel chain that will be developing), showed up in person to the reveal presser iirc

Biff · #**1676** Posted **Jun 20, 2016, 1:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Speaking of Sutton place. I was under the impression that true north sold the land to the hotel company to develop. Is this true?

Yes this is true.

drew · #**1677** Posted **Jun 20, 2016, 1:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

There was a post on here recently showing the Hydro tower and the solar chimney thing. Pretty sure it said something about the small parkade to encourage transit. But maybe that's just how they're spinning it. I don't know.

Indoor parkades are $$$. I am sure any talk of multi-level parkade hit the cutting room floor in order to make room for the other more important pricey stuff incorporated into tha building design.

Cyro · #**1678** Posted **Jun 20, 2016, 2:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

I wonder if we're going to get some sort of announcement soon regarding the scope of the project. Maybe something on the status of the hotel component also especially since they've been talking about adding space to the development.

Last media release from TN discussed further info on the Sutton Towers(3-4) of the project, to be discussed sometime in August (fall) of this year.

CoryB · #**1679** Posted **Jun 20, 2016, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Probably the least likely of all explanations IMO.

If they were that concerned about encouraging the use of public transportation they wouldn't have screwed the city on the SWBRTROW.

When the Hydro move was happening I was in a few continuing education classes with Hydro employees. The planned underground parking in the Hydro tower was definitely reduced from the planning stage to the construction stage, for whatever reason. To offset the lost parking Hydro then signed a long term lease on the basement of CityPlace accessed off the loading dock on St Marys for additional parking spaces. At the time the CityPlace basement was being used as storage for MPI. The loss of that space sent them scrambling and it was shortly after that they purchase CityPlace and its related parking lots.

Hydro also reportedly did limit parking to encourage transit use. One of their selection criteria for a site placed a high level of importance on being on a major transit corridor. The plan seemed to be employees could take transit from home or they could park at the Taylor site and take transit from there.

One of the questions people should be asking is if the plan, as was sold to the public, was to locate Hydro employees under one roof, why does the Taylor site remain so active for Hydro operations?

Riverman · #**1680** Posted **Jun 20, 2016, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoryB

One of the questions people should be asking is if the plan, as was sold to the public, was to locate Hydro employees under one roof, why does the Taylor site remain so active for Hydro operations?

From what I've heard from a relative that works for Hydro, some of the employees refused to work downtown, so they were accommodated at Taylor.