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Old Posted Jun 15, 2016, 4:08 PM
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College Station slated for 2017 groundbreaking

770 apartments + 51,000 sq. ft. of ground-floor retail space, designed by Johnson Fain.

     
     
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2016, 4:09 PM
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Is it just my imagination or did we have a WG crane jump in the last couple days? If so, I suppose we should start seeing some "sail" steel any day now...
I saw the beginnings of the steel when riding the gold line yesterday through Chinatown.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2016, 4:36 PM
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I work in real estate and have done tons of similar analysis, and let me say Costar is ABSOLUTE TRASH when it comes to multi-family. It is really only good for office. I mean just look at the numbers in their report: "It also includes CIM Group’s 888 South Hope, which is expected to open 526 units in South Park later this year." Inaccurate. "Carmel Partner’s 700-unit Eighth & Grand project, however, was only about 25 percent occupied five months after opening." The project hasn't even been open for 5 month.

I'm not arguing that Downtown won't become temporarily over supplied, that is definitely a possibility. I'm just arguing that this "report" is trash.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2016, 4:56 PM
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Yep just means DTLA is fastly becoming the place to be more and more! Its cool appeal & allure (something we have never really experienced in modern times) continues to rise! Personally I try to find a way to be down there everyday damn near! Yesterday seemed to be swarming with ppl all over, it just felt soo lively & vibrant like a true BIG CITY. Everything will fall into place overtime as the market matures. Talk about oversupply in this stage is just premature! BUILD BUILD BUILD!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2016, 6:51 PM
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I work in real estate and have done tons of similar analysis, and let me say Costar is ABSOLUTE TRASH when it comes to multi-family. It is really only good for office. I mean just look at the numbers in their report: "It also includes CIM Group’s 888 South Hope, which is expected to open 526 units in South Park later this year." Inaccurate. "Carmel Partner’s 700-unit Eighth & Grand project, however, was only about 25 percent occupied five months after opening." The project hasn't even been open for 5 month.

I'm not arguing that Downtown won't become temporarily over supplied, that is definitely a possibility. I'm just arguing that this "report" is trash.

Agreed,
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you did not quote the entire article, having left out at least half of what was written. Also, even though the gist of the article was to illustrate what happens when new construction is introduced to the market--absorption rates typically fall, and vacancy rates typically rise relative (usually) to the amount offered. This would be expected in a dynamic market where lots of construction is taking place, yet the author of the study does not say so. He only indicates that 2016 will be a challenging year for those developers who are leasing projects. Also, the author looses a vast amount of credibility when he says,

"The crane action includes mega-developments like Jamison and L&R’s 648-unit Circa project, which recently broke ground across from Staples Center, and is expected to deliver in 2017. It also includes CIM Group’s 888 South Hope, which is expected to open 526 units in South Park later this year. While massive, they are only two among more than a dozen luxury developments in the works."

This incredibly inaccurate (for the record CIM has been "dicking" around with this project for many years and in my opinion has not yet broken ground much less able to "deliver in 2017) comment tells me that he Bashir either does not live in downtown, does not even live in southern California, or is probably preaching his "real estate opinions" from maybe an office in New York. I mean, come on, I even know better than that and I live in Fucking Yucaipa (90 miles east of downtown). This is not a simple mistake or oversight anyone who has knowledge of downtown would know this, including all of those on this forum. It also tells me that the author of the main article (for Costar) did not do his homework. I say take it for what it is--poorly written and poorly researched "trash.'
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2016, 7:11 PM
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I started working on the adaptive reuse but It got a bit out of hand as a few projects began to stall. There are some that don't even have renderings. I'm not sure how to go about it.
Don't even sweat about it. Its time consuming. If anything I'm down for somebody to step in and create another thread just for adaptive reuse projects city wide since there are so many. I like the simplicity of the current front page. In my opinion its the best organized one out of the big city threads.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2016, 11:56 PM
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Agreed,
Citywatch,
you did not quote the entire article, having left out at least half of what was written. Also, even though the gist of the article was to illustrate what happens when new construction is introduced to the market--absorption rates typically fall, and vacancy rates typically rise relative (usually) to the amount offered. This would be expected in a dynamic market where lots of construction is taking place, yet the author of the study does not say so. He only indicates that 2016 will be a challenging year for those developers who are leasing projects. Also, the author looses a vast amount of credibility when he says,

"The crane action includes mega-developments like Jamison and L&R’s 648-unit Circa project, which recently broke ground across from Staples Center, and is expected to deliver in 2017. It also includes CIM Group’s 888 South Hope, which is expected to open 526 units in South Park later this year. While massive, they are only two among more than a dozen luxury developments in the works."

This incredibly inaccurate (for the record CIM has been "dicking" around with this project for many years and in my opinion has not yet broken ground much less able to "deliver in 2017) comment tells me that he Bashir either does not live in downtown, does not even live in southern California, or is probably preaching his "real estate opinions" from maybe an office in New York. I mean, come on, I even know better than that and I live in Fucking Yucaipa (90 miles east of downtown). This is not a simple mistake or oversight anyone who has knowledge of downtown would know this, including all of those on this forum. It also tells me that the author of the main article (for Costar) did not do his homework. I say take it for what it is--poorly written and poorly researched "trash.'
While this rant might have been accurate 1-2 months ago, I live two blocks from 888 Hope. They have been working on it. Judging by the timeline of how long it has taken 801 Olive to get built, I think getting 888 Hope in by December 2017 is a 50-50 possibility.
     
     
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Thanks, cesar90 for all the great videos the Warner Bldg. was special never would have seen the great artistic detail of that building along the top just beautiful. Let us know some time how Le Petit is doing if your still in the area, hope well. thanks
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2016, 4:41 PM
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While this rant might have been accurate 1-2 months ago, I live two blocks from 888 Hope. They have been working on it. Judging by the timeline of how long it has taken 801 Olive to get built, I think getting 888 Hope in by December 2017 is a 50-50 possibility.
Agreed on your timeline. But there is approximately a 0.00% chance that it opens "later this year" as the report claimed.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2016, 6:52 PM
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Damn Cesar... it's like you have a sniper scope on that camera!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2016, 7:02 PM
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While this rant might have been accurate 1-2 months ago, I live two blocks from 888 Hope. They have been working on it. Judging by the timeline of how long it has taken 801 Olive to get built, I think getting 888 Hope in by December 2017 is a 50-50 possibility.
Resident,

I'm not sure if expressing a strong opinion on this forum (you do know what a forum means, don't you?) qualifies as a rant, but if you think that a 33 storey building (especially at the pace demonstrated by CIM in the past) can be erected to a finished product in 18 months even on a 50-50 chance, you are indeed delusional. By the way, I think that I quoted the article as saying "It also includes CIM Group’s 888 South Hope, which is expected to open 526 units in South Park later this year"

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Thanks, cesar90 for all the great videos the Warner Bldg. was special never would have seen the great artistic detail of that building along the top just beautiful. Let us know some time how Le Petit is doing if your still in the area, hope well. thanks
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Damn Cesar... it's like you have a sniper scope on that camera!
Thank you and I will upload about Le Petit soon with some architectural shots.

I could take some requests if any of you all have too.

gotta love zeiss lenses

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Old Posted Jun 17, 2016, 1:26 AM
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The Bloc opened up their plaza today... So you can go in and imagine there is retail?

Here are a few pics from just before:

The Bloc by Hunter, on Flickr

The Bloc by Hunter, on Flickr

The Bloc by Hunter, on Flickr

The Bloc by Hunter, on Flickr

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Old Posted Jun 17, 2016, 1:29 AM
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when is the metro portal supposed to open?

*edit*
and another thing, are they going to cover the parking structure windows, preferably with some translucent material or leave them open? They look ghetto as hell currently.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2016, 1:38 AM
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I love how The Bloc has opened up this view of Roosevelt Lofts and the Aon Center, two truly iconic LA buildings.

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when is the metro portal supposed to open?

*edit*
and another thing, are they going to cover the parking structure windows, preferably with some translucent material or leave them open? They look ghetto as hell currently.
The exterior portion between the parking structure & the solid podium is the most offensive. Its like raw unfinished ugliness, and it looks like thats how they're going to leave it. In classic LA fashion they went "whats the absolute CHEAPEST way I can get this thing up and running yet still make a hip splash?"

The Bloc by Hunter, on Flickr


For renders that attempt to avoid the ugliness: http://www.theblocdowntown.com/see/images/shop-on-the-bloc/


Edit - while we're on the subject of ugly:

Olympic & Olive by Hunter, on Flickr

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Old Posted Jun 17, 2016, 3:10 AM
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The exterior portion between the parking structure & the solid podium is the most offensive. Its like raw unfinished ugliness, and it looks like thats how they're going to leave it. In classic LA fashion they went "whats the absolute CHEAPEST way I can get this thing up and running yet still make a hip splash?"
Yah thats pretty bad, especially the exposed corners showing the spiral ramp.
     
     
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lol the bloc looks barren as hell
     
     
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