Metro Vancouver Transit Discussion

[swan_ch]

Originally Posted by Express691

Its hard to do comparisons on my phone, but I can tell you that according to the results from the massive survey they held months back, those changes wont be happening at least in the short term.

Most opposition was in West Vancouver. Lots of people were unsure of the ability of the 250 to carry extra passengers, had the 258 had been cut. No stop changes from this June schedule.

If you havent had a chance to read them then http://www.translink.ca/en/Plans-and-Pro...etwork/Transit-Network-Consultation.aspx

In the meantime, just found out that N8 and N20 are to go to Marine Drive Station. Also, CPTDB has rumors that N16 and N6 are to be discontinued.

http://infomaps.translink.ca/Public_Timetables/123/ttN8.pdf
http://infomaps.translink.ca/Public_Timetables/123/ttN20.pdf

Just spot some bus stops alone Robson Street that TL had hung small signs telling passengers that N6 is going to be discontinued due to low ridership.

[city-dweller]

Transit Land for Sale:

http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/Brochure.pdf

Sale now closed any idea of who bought it?

*Wasn't sure which thread this should go --> MODs feel free to move.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by city-dweller

Transit Land for Sale:

http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/Brochure.pdf

Sale now closed any idea of who bought it?

*Wasn't sure which thread this should go --> MODs feel free to move.

Nope - but thanks for posting.
That's the site that is supposed to provide a passage with an elevator or escalators from VCC-Clark Station up the steep hill to Clark Drive.

[Sheba]

Transit Service Changes have been posted.

[dandor31]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Transit Service Changes have been posted.

Ahh, the 2/22 split is just temporary for the Burrard Bridge construction. Definitely makes more sense now. I'm hopeful the will still eventually integrate the two route with an offset overlap (Dunbar/41 to Knight/Kingsway and 16/Macdonald to Knight/63).

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by city-dweller

Transit Land for Sale:

http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/Brochure.pdf

Sale now closed any idea of who bought it?

*Wasn't sure which thread this should go --> MODs feel free to move.

Good example of land that should have been purchased by Translink way back when they were planning the lines.

I know Translink purchased some land around Newton a few years back, but have their land made ANY strategic purchases? If they want Translink to be self-sufficient, they have to give them the tools.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Sheba

My disability Compass card expires too, unlike my condition. I also pay for Compass annually (I don't know how it works with yours) and it updates itself at the beginning of the year.

It makes sense that it expires. If you moved away from BC, it wouldn't make sense for you to have a pass in perpetuity.

A pass that doesn't expire would be worth a lot of money. Same goes for someone who passes away and has a non-expiring card. Annual renewals seem appropriate.

You'll likely need to pick up a luggage tag too (as you can't punch a hole in the card) also available at dollar stores, usually right next to the lanyards.

Are you sure you can't punch a hole in them? To be honest, I hadn't thought of that. Now I want to tear apart a card to see how it's constructed.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

Are you sure you can't punch a hole in them? To be honest, I hadn't thought of that. Now I want to tear apart a card to see how it's constructed.

From the Compass Card Terms & Conditions:

The Cardholder must not deface, alter or duplicate a Compass Card or create a counterfeit Compass Card. The Cardholder must not load fare products through an unauthorized means on a Compass Card or an unauthorized card. The Service Providers will not honour defaced, altered, duplicated or counterfeit cards or otherwise unauthorized cards or fare products.

Punching a hole in a Compass Card alters it and therefore makes it invalid to be used.

I haven't seen the inside of a Compass Card yet, but this image shows the inside of a Compass Ticket. A Compass Card would look the same.

[MIPS]

The Cardholder must not deface, alter or duplicate a Compass Card or create a counterfeit Compass Card.

You're still into the glue, I see. Most other cities have long since dropped that term and condition or never used it at all because it's stupid.
Watch me spite your trashy ideas, TransLoser.

Punching a hole in a Compass Card alters it and therefore makes it invalid to be used.

You also run the likely risk of damaging the antenna loop and ruining the card. You're better off dissolving the card in acetone and putting the assembly in something else. Optionally keep the original card, clone it (can't talk about that, for reasons), modify the copy and whenever one of the transit grunts want to exercise their ego you pull out the real card and they'll never know.

I haven't seen the inside of a Compass Card yet, but this image shows the inside of a Compass Ticket. A Compass Card would look the same.

Like I criticized before the Compass is so cheap, generic and garbage that the layout of the internals are that of an ISO 14443A card, as pictured above, which you can buy bulk from china for about ten cents a card, optionally in sticker and resin FOB form which then lets you carry your Compass card in your phone or on your keyring. You can always identify where the chip is by finding the spot on the card where there is a rectangular non-uniform spot.

My friend has discovered that Compass cards are flexible enough that he can roll one up and stuff it in one of those classic magical wands.



He amazes everyone by tapping the faregate with that, yet when he's asked to show the car he can just pull it out.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by MIPS

Most other cities have long since dropped that term and condition or never used it at all because it's stupid.

You also run the likely risk of damaging the antenna loop and ruining the card.

That term in the conditions of use likely had a lot more to do with not modifying the paper tickets to change the expiry dates and such.

With the plastic compass cards, you could reasonably stick it in a lanyard card holder and not damage it. If you drill a hole in it, you'd inevitably damage the antenna, if not the chip. But if you do, you can transfer the balance since the card's serial number isn't altered by doing so.

Translink might consider a version that has a lanyard clip hole, but to be honest, that just makes the card weaker and I once had a RFID card for the condo I rented that had one of the larger older cards and the plastic started breaking off once the clip was damaged.

[officedweller]

The prohibition would also be in place so that if a card owner does damage the card / punch a hole, etc., the liability for the damge rests with the owner, not TransLink.

(i.e. it's a "for dummies" warning not to damage the inner workings of the card.)

(Similar reason that Massey Tunnel signs say "turn headlights on" when they want you to turn your tail lights on. Because dummies out there wouldn't know how to turn their tail lights on.)

[WarrenC12]

Trudeau will be in Vancouver tomorrow to take part in an expected transit announcement, including the "missing link" of the 17% regional funding requirement.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Trudeau will be in Vancouver tomorrow to take part in an expected transit announcement, including the "missing link" of the 17% regional funding requirement.

I hope the 17% comes from charging admission from a three-way brawl between Trudeau, Gregor Robertson, and Christy Clark.

[retro_orange]

Hey guys, theres an e-petition to end train and railyard noise at night and weekends and it closes in a few days. For those who don't live near a railyard at the moment you may find yourself close to one in the future! Please sign! (takes 30 seconds) Especially if you live in New Westminster!

Quote:
e-187
Petition to the House of Commons
Whereas:
The idling, sorting, coupling, decoupling and shunting of trains in rail yards and increasing ground vibration levels due to trains passing at high speed near residential areas, create an incredible amount of noise and disruption as well as health concerns for residents who live near the tracks;
After passing in the House of Commons in 2007, Bill C-11 proposed that several amendments be made to the Railway Safety Act, which included the creation of a complaint mechanism to deal with complaints concerning noise resulting from the construction or operation of railways;
By allowing for “reasonable” amounts of noise and leaving the legislation open to heavy interpretation, the Senate weakened the provisions of Bill C-11;
The loophole introduced by the Senate allowed railway companies to continue to carry out and increase high noise activities in the evening, overnight, and early in the morning, seriously disrupting the quality of life and health of local residents in many areas of the country, and in some instances even damaging property;
The federal government has yet to step in and properly regulate railway noise activities to allow communities to get the proper rest, sleep and the sense of security and wellbeing they require;
We, the undersigned, the petitioners, call upon the Government of Canada to support Bill C-218, the Railway Noise and Vibration Control Act, which would prohibit railway companies from engaging in noisy rail yard activities in residential areas between the hours of 10:00 pm and 8:00 am, Monday to Friday, and at any time on a Saturday, Sunday or legal holiday.

Petition link: https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-187

[logicbomb]

Originally Posted by retro_orange

Hey guys, theres an e-petition to end train and railyard noise at night and weekends and it closes in a few days. For those who don't live near a railyard at the moment you may find yourself close to one in the future! Please sign! (takes 30 seconds) Especially if you live in New Westminster!



Petition link: https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-187

It's really off-topic and a non-issue in Metro Vancouver.

Those that chose to live close to massive railyards or mainlines should have been aware of the noise that would occur. Especially those new residents in Port Royal and Sapperton. Reminds me of those residents in Sea Island that were demanding the government "do something" about the late night jets.

Moreover, numerous rail lines have been removed, or are in the process of being removed so most rail traffic are no longer traveling through residential areas.

Would prohibit railway companies from engaging in noisy rail yard activities in residential areas between the hours of 10:00 pm and 8:00 am, Monday to Friday, and at any time on a Saturday, Sunday or legal holiday.

Way to kill any economic activity.

[Bdawe]

Originally Posted by retro_orange

Hey guys, theres an e-petition to end train and railyard noise at night and weekends and it closes in a few days. For those who don't live near a railyard at the moment you may find yourself close to one in the future! Please sign! (takes 30 seconds) Especially if you live in New Westminster!



Petition link: https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-187

Railyards aren't exactly a booming variety of industrial development. For the most part, they are where they have always been and they don't exactly open new ones next to residential neighborhoods.

The railyard in question in New Westminster has been there for some five generations. The condos that complain endlessly about the noise from railyards not so much.

Of course, no one ever proposes to bother to compensate the railroads for shutting down a third of their yard's track time either. And the result of that is less competitive manufacturing enterprises down the line, more trucks on the road making noise in other people's neighborhoods that weren't built next to an active rail yard, or both

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by CanSpice

I hope the 17% comes from charging admission from a three-way brawl between Trudeau, Gregor Robertson, and Christy Clark.

hahaha, that I would indeed pay to see.

Also, that train yard petition is pretty darn funny.

A better idea is to not restrict the existing rail yards, and instead have condos built next to such facilities be lower in price, allowing first time buyers, families, and low middle income people the chance to own their own condos! This is what happens in most areas of the world where reality exists.

Also, I heard that "to be green" Translink is going to reduce how often they wash their buses in half during the summer to save water.

I don't know, these are the type of "green" activities that I don't like. Keep our transit clean.

[csbvan]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

hahaha, that I would indeed pay to see.

Also, that train yard petition is pretty darn funny.

A better idea is to not restrict the existing rail yards, and instead have condos built next to such facilities be lower in price, allowing first time buyers, families, and low middle income people the chance to own their own condos! This is what happens in most areas of the world where reality exists.

Also, I heard that "to be green" Translink is going to reduce how often they wash their buses in half during the summer to save water.

I don't know, these are the type of "green" activities that I don't like. Keep our transit clean.

Well, to be fair, summer in Vancouver is usually characterized by endless stretches of high pressure. I can't imagine the buses get all that dirty.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by csbvan

Well, to be fair, summer in Vancouver is usually characterized by endless stretches of high pressure. I can't imagine the buses get all that dirty.

For me the decision would partially come down to $$$$. How much is saved by washing the buses half as much.

Painting them (and the skytrain) all the new grey colours makes a ton of difference to the perception of how dirty they are IMO.

[Metro-One]

I don't know, I see this as a potential slipper slope towards sub-standards and losing some pride in our system.

It would be okay if they said that extra money saved was then diverted into cleaning up the interiors more often......