noirish Los Angeles - Page 1769

ethereal_reality · #**35361** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 12:10 AM**

cute

'mystery' slide from Edna.

http://www.ednasantiqueshop.com/hollywood_boulevard_trolley_line.htm

I bet that turreted building in the distance is still standing (wherever it might be)
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Martin Pal · #**35362** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 12:11 AM**

Can anyone make out what the sign says to the left of the P.E. car?
I don't recall seeing one of those triangular "Car stop" signs before,
hanging in the air, either, though maybe I just didn't notice.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Excellent work Martin Pal!

I wonder where Edna is finding these photographs?

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I don't know, E_R, but thanks for locating the site. Those photos on there are really superb!

ethereal_reality · #**35363** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 12:14 AM**

You're welcome MP.

'mystery' location #2.

http://www.ednasantiqueshop.com/hollywood_boulevard_trolley_line.htm

ethereal_reality · #**35364** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 12:22 AM**

One last 'mystery' location for tonight.

http://www.ednasantiqueshop.com/hollywood_boulevard_trolley_line.htm

I especially like that we get a good glimpse of the driver (with the sun shining on his face)

He looks rather young and handsome.

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Hollywood Graham · #**35365** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 12:29 AM**

That's an easy one, car is turning off of Sunset Blvd. to go down to Glendale Blvd. and enter there the tunnel to the Subway Terminal.

Martin Pal · #**35366** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 1:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for the information on the Crystal Beach train stop HH.

http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/MP-00319.jpg

It's a bit difficult to read, but I believe the sign on the trolley stop below says Sunset Avenue.

old file / (there's a good possibility we've seen this before on NLA)

This stop comes with a garage.

So how many of these small stops were there on the Venice Short Line / Trolley Way? (I'm still looking for a detailed map)
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is supposedly along the Venice Short line, yet I can't find a Rose Avenue Stop on the map. How come?

Jim Stubchaer/ http://www.uncanny.net/~wetzel/vsline.htm

I enlarged the Ray Younghans map to make it easier to see.

http://legaciesofla.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/venice-short-line-map-transit.png
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According to a map I just looked at, there is a Rose Avenue in between Sunset Ave. and Pier Ave. seen on the map above, so my guess is that's where it was located.

Martin Pal · #**35367** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 1:58 AM**

Has this been noted before? If not, take a look at it.

It's called: The Militant Angeleno's Pacific Electric Archaeology Map

He notes surviving Pacific Electric Railway artifacts, like track and track remnants, P.E. stations as well as PE-inspired public art and surviving Red Cars.

It's all done on overlays of Google Maps where you can click on the areas that bring up locations and pictures. You can look for the Pacific Electric Routes and click on one you're interested in (like the Venice Short Line, for example) and it brings up the map with an overlay of the line where it used to run.

Enjoy!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1DuFcDskRpjHGsavgjnpKZjA4xNQ

BifRayRock · #**35368** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 2:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

1912 - The EMS Apts. 321 S Olive St.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12552

Another 1912 view of the Palace Hotel and it's next door neighbor, the EMS.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12855

BifRayRock · #**35369** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 2:59 AM**

Two medium, plain no extra toppings, to go?

Portable bungalows, homes or cottages. Same business, different names?

Walker Portable Cottages, in 1912 the listing is for 1322 S Grand Ave.

"Burger Van and Storage" 1511 or 1514 S. Grand (?) Prev., Burger & Burger "South Grand Av. corner 16th." Warehouse on 1320 Palm Ave.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12264

BifRayRock · #**35370** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 3:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I'm not sure if these photos from 1913 have been posted before.

usc digital archive

Los Angeles Auditorium Hotel, on South Olive Street

As marked

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12565

BifRayRock · #**35371** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 3:29 AM**

1912 Hotel Victoria, 705 W. Seventh Street

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12559

HenryHuntington · #**35372** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 3:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

One last 'mystery' location for tonight.

http://www.ednasantiqueshop.com/hollywood_boulevard_trolley_line.htm

I especially like that we get a good glimpse of the driver (with the sun shining on his face)

He looks rather young and handsome.

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PE 5151 is westbound entering Hawthorn Ave. at Poinsettia Place. It has just traversed the private right-of-way from Hollywood Blvd. and La Brea Ave., which is marked by the car in the distance. (Post-abandonment, this right-of-way was paved and now is known as Marshfield Way.) The car will continue on Hawthorn for two blocks to Martel Ave. before entering another stretch of private right-of-way that will take it southwesterly again to Sunset Blvd. and Gardner St. (Gardner Jct.). According to the dash sign, this car will be turning back at the crossover there (see Martin Pal's photo) rather than continuing on to Beverly Hills.

BifRayRock · #**35373** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 3:42 AM**

1912 - Source identifies images as "Bungalow Land" typical homes on 3rd Avenue, Venice CA. Perhaps someone can connect these 100+ y/o images? How close to the Venice Short Line

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http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12271

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12272

BifRayRock · #**35374** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 3:49 AM**

1912, idyllic Orange Grove Blvd., Pasadena (Look both ways before crossing.)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12797

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12798

BifRayRock · #**35375** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 4:16 AM**

1912 - The Schue Apartments (Per source. Misspelled or an abbreviation?)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12560

1912 - The Schne Apartments (Per source, no kidding. An interesting trend?)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12853

1912 - The Hershey Arms Apt. building. 2600 Wilshire Blvd.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12556

In color:http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6184513&postcount=15408

More: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6456839&postcount=19672

Hotel Pepper (1800 W. Seventh Street) became the Hotel Wesley Terrace around 1922.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12554

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6019976&postcount=12616

1912 Hotel Huntington (East Eighth and Main Streets)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12848

1912 - Hotel Gilligan, 1702 S Grand (Endorsed by Thurston Howell?)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12849

BifRayRock · #**35376** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 4:27 AM**

A few more structures circa 1912?

The Wade Apartments, 1046 S Grand

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12850

The Seminole - 620 S. Flower (Yes it is a NLA favorite)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12852

The St. Paul, 811 South Union

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12851

Hotel Ingraham, 1045 Ingraham

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12854

MartinTurnbull · #**35377** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 4:50 AM**

I just came across this ad for The Blue Dot, 1235 Vine St, Hollywood.
I've never seen or heard of it before, nor does it come up in any Google searches of the LA City Directories online.
Does anybody know anything about it?
That telephone number - HOlly 9425 - what era with it put this in?

BifRayRock · #**35378** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 4:52 AM**

1912 - Hotel Van Nuys, Fourth and Main Streets

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12856

1912 - Los Angeles Trust and Savings Bank, 453 Spring St.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12859

1912 - The Central Building, 424 S. Broadway

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/12857

BifRayRock · #**35379** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 5:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

BelmontB, glad you agree! (Just wish the images were larger.)

Would the Young have had laundry facilities when it was built?

http://www.you-are-here.com/downtown/young_apartments.jpg

http://photos3.zillow.com/p_f/IS-rtkpju7efk2l.jpg

http://photos2.zillow.com/p_f/IS-rtkqb8quqzq5.jpg

http://photos3.zillow.com/p_f/IS-1694a78g41d99.jpg

Keeping with the noir?

1971

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026832.jpg

1985

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00094/00094978.jpg

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1966 - Pat down on the Strip. (attenuated connection with A Scot's narrative

>http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2730 )

http://dlproj.library.ucla.edu/derivatives/latimes/WOI_8_1_2088/clusc_8_1_00329737a_j.jpg

1912 - The same Young, only younger.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/13173

oldstuff · #**35380** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

According to a map I just looked at, there is a Rose Avenue in between Sunset Ave. and Pier Ave. seen on the map above, so my guess is that's where it was located.

Uncanny/net has a notation that this right of way was paved over in the 1950's to extend Pacific Avenue.