ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 921

ATL_J · #**18401** Posted **May 16, 2016, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

So it sounds like it's more of just a perception advantage. They aren't going to get anyone anywhere any faster than if they hopped on a bus...taking the same exact route.

There is a lot of information online about the exact questions you're asking and you'll be able to read well researched and though out pros and cons.

RudyJK · #**18402** Posted **May 17, 2016, 1:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by pica

Speaking of making a lot more sense, maybe wait until after the project list has actually been determined before declaring it's not worth voting for? The list isn't finalized until the city council has provided their input, and they've got until July.

It works both ways. Wait until after the list is complete before voicing full throated support.

DWNTWN · #**18403** Posted **May 17, 2016, 1:39 AM**

The streetcar is great, and is leaps and bounds better than a bus. We need more streetcars, alongside more HRT, BRT, and commuter rail on the freight lines (or right of ways). We need it all. Anything less is not a serious discussion. The development spurred by the beltline, which has always been envisioned as a transit corridor, has been tremendous. The streetcar downtown has amped up development downtown as well. People want the option of transit. Huge numbers of Atlantans could ride MARTA every day, they just choose not to. Their choice not to untilize transit available to them (like people do in all of the cities people on this forum fantasize about) should not prohibit the expansion of a system that hundreds of thousands of people use every day with ease. I am sure many of you are better traveled than I, but having utilized transit systems in 33 countries I can attest to the need for more MARTA, as well as how good of a system MARTA already is. Yeah I said it. It is a good system. It doesn't go everywhere, but neither do the systems in NYC, Seoul, or Shanghai, and they are comparatively massive. I ride MARTA every day, as does my wife. We ride it to work, to our "country house" in East Point, to shop, to buy groceries, and to take bikes to Piedmont Park/Beltline for a Saturday or Sunday ride. The cars are much smoother, quieter, and roomier than the largest and newest rail cars in NYC and CHI. What are we complaining about? The proposed measure requires a half a penny tax. That is $0.50 on your $100 grocery bill. Will you miss it? We moved deeper into the city to get away from the CAVE people (citizens against virtually everything) that seem to run rampant around metro ATL. If we can't pass this transit tax we don't deserve to have the city we can have. Anyway, enough ranting, and on to some development (and nostalgia) pics:

Walgreens at Woodruff Park is coming along nicely.

Atlantans enjoying the Jacob's Pharmacy recreation

A large contraption of some sort being placed on top of (I believe) 200 Peachtree.

pica · #**18404** Posted **May 17, 2016, 6:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

So it sounds like it's more of just a perception advantage. They aren't going to get anyone anywhere any faster than if they hopped on a bus...taking the same exact route.

A light rail vehicle on a fixed guideway can in fact safely travel next to a pedestrian path faster than a bus could, and can carry more passengers while doing so.

Martinman · #**18405** Posted **May 17, 2016, 11:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by DWNTWN

The streetcar is great, and is leaps and bounds better than a bus. We need more streetcars, alongside more HRT, BRT, and commuter rail on the freight lines (or right of ways). We need it all. Anything less is not a serious discussion. The development spurred by the beltline, which has always been envisioned as a transit corridor, has been tremendous. The streetcar downtown has amped up development downtown as well. People want the option of transit. Huge numbers of Atlantans could ride MARTA every day, they just choose not to. Their choice not to untilize transit available to them (like people do in all of the cities people on this forum fantasize about) should not prohibit the expansion of a system that hundreds of thousands of people use every day with ease. I am sure many of you are better traveled than I, but having utilized transit systems in 33 countries I can attest to the need for more MARTA, as well as how good of a system MARTA already is. Yeah I said it. It is a good system. It doesn't go everywhere, but neither do the systems in NYC, Seoul, or Shanghai, and they are comparatively massive. I ride MARTA every day, as does my wife. We ride it to work, to our "country house" in East Point, to shop, to buy groceries, and to take bikes to Piedmont Park/Beltline for a Saturday or Sunday ride. The cars are much smoother, quieter, and roomier than the largest and newest rail cars in NYC and CHI. What are we complaining about? The proposed measure requires a half a penny tax. That is $0.50 on your $100 grocery bill. Will you miss it? We moved deeper into the city to get away from the CAVE people (citizens against virtually everything) that seem to run rampant around metro ATL. If we can't pass this transit tax we don't deserve to have the city we can have. Anyway, enough ranting, and on to some development (and nostalgia) pics:

The only thing I don't like about this post is that there is no "like" button on this forum. And I am totally stealing the CAVE people acronym.

gttx · #**18406** Posted **May 17, 2016, 1:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martinman

The only thing I don't like about this post is that there is no "like" button on this forum. And I am totally stealing the CAVE people acronym.

Reminds me of BANANAs (build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything)

GTdan · #**18407** Posted **May 17, 2016, 4:57 PM**

In construction news...The base of the crane for Alta on the Park is being installed today.

boomtown · #**18408** Posted **May 17, 2016, 5:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by DWNTWN

We moved deeper into the city to get away from the CAVE people (citizens against virtually everything) that seem to run rampant around metro ATL.

CAVE people!
Yes! I am going to use that one too..

Street Advocate · #**18409** Posted **May 17, 2016, 5:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by GTdan

In construction news...The base of the crane for Alta on the Park is being installed today.

Is everything in place for this project to begin rising? Love seeing the skyline change at Piedmont Park. If 195 Thirteenth, 1125 Peachtree, and 98 14th Street go... This area is going to be incredibly active.

GTdan · #**18410** Posted **May 17, 2016, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Is everything in place for this project to begin rising? Love seeing the skyline change at Piedmont Park. If 195 Thirteenth, 1125 Peachtree, and 98 14th Street go... This area is going to be incredibly active.

They are still working on the foundation. They just completed a large wall that borders some of the other neighboring buildings, but I expect the first level columns being built over the next month or so. Things should be above ground soon.

RobMidtowner · #**18411** Posted **May 17, 2016, 7:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

So it sounds like it's more of just a perception advantage. They aren't going to get anyone anywhere any faster than if they hopped on a bus...taking the same exact route.

The streetcar is set up with transit signal priority so in theory it will have less stops than a bus on the same route.

robertjhajek · #**18412** Posted **May 17, 2016, 8:09 PM**

Is there going to be retail at alta on park?

GTdan · #**18413** Posted **May 17, 2016, 8:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by robertjhajek

Is there going to be retail at alta on park?

According to the building permits filed, there will be 2,571 square feet of retail space.

robertjhajek · #**18414** Posted **May 17, 2016, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by GTdan

According to the building permits filed, there will be 2,571 square feet of retail space.

Cool, so a coffee shop or bar

atlwarrior · #**18415** Posted **May 18, 2016, 12:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by boomtown

CAVE people!
Yes! I am going to use that one too..

I love this acronym and will use it also. Hahahaha

Matthew · #**18416** Posted **May 18, 2016, 2:32 AM**

Random drive-by construction photography. No, I wasn't driving.

Credit: Me

jsvh · #**18417** Posted **May 18, 2016, 9:40 AM**

Underground Atlanta deal expected to close in "10 to 20" days. Also, they mention the development including a movie theater.

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/local-video/s...almost-complete_20160517223421/290128877