ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[BlueSangha]

A Mystery Afoot

anyone have any inside info on this: http://atlanta.curbed.com/2016/5/13/11669234/peach-building-atlanta-interstate-85-peachtree

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by BlueSangha

A Mystery Afoot

anyone have any inside info on this: http://atlanta.curbed.com/2016/5/13/11669234/peach-building-atlanta-interstate-85-peachtree

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they're just upgrading the T-Mobile antennas.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they're just upgrading the T-Mobile antennas.

Whew! At first I thought you were going to say a sweet Midtown project was officially dead. I can live with upgraded AT&T antennas instead of an uptown redevelopment.

[jpk1292000]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they're just upgrading the T-Mobile antennas.

So the zoning verification was just for the antennas?

[BunkyWay]

The smart thing to do here would be to do a land swap, moving the I-85 ramp onto the land immediately adjacent to the freeway and then freeing the on-ramp land for development.

[Verge]

Originally Posted by Martinman

I don't think they were saying that the hotel proposal has to look like the surrounding buildings but that it needs to be architecturally significant. Faux historic architecture can be just as bad as anything else. Basically, this is not the location for the typical glass and concrete building.

They did themselves a great disservice by presenting an unrendred (or under-rendered) sketch-up model with basically no clue about building materials--

[Verge]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

As well as the fact that the "Armour" infill station appears to be in the middle of nowhere. It would make a lot more sense for the BeltLine transit to connect at Lindbergh. There's no infill station at Peachtree Circle/North Midtown. There's nothing being done to Five Points to move the bus bays underground and allow for the development of the air rights and improve user-friendliness.

This plan is full of more pet-projects, so I will be voting against it. Nothing to help commuters whatsoever!

The problem, of course, being that Amour is actually where the Beltline is located-- This T-Splost is one of the most important votes in the history of the city-- One that will help to determine determine the future of Atlanta. I urge folks to vote Yes-- we won't get any more chances anytime soon. It represents the beginning of a comprehensive, big city transit plan. Voting against it because you don't agree with a project or two is 'cutting off your nose to spite your face', and quite counter-productive to making ATLANTA the more urbane and livable place that we all want it to be. It's a shame it's not region wide, but the city-proper needs to set an example for our more transit averse neighbors.

[Tuckerman]

Originally Posted by Verge

The problem, of course, being that Amour is actually where the Beltline is located-- This T-Splost is one of the most important votes in the history of the city-- One that will help to determine determine the future of Atlanta. I urge folks to vote Yes-- we won't get any more chances anytime soon. It represents the beginning of a comprehensive, big city transit plan. Voting against it because you don't agree with a project or two is 'cutting off your nose to spite your face', and quite counter-productive to making ATLANTA the more urbane and livable place that we all want it to be. It's a shame it's not region wide, but the city-proper needs to set an example for our more transit averse neighbors.

Couldn't agree more- let's not make the stupid mistake that we made before in objecting to the T-SPLOST because there were some parts that should be stronger. There needs to be compromise to get anything on transport infrastructure and start people thinking about it.

[pica]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

As well as the fact that the "Armour" infill station appears to be in the middle of nowhere. It would make a lot more sense for the BeltLine transit to connect at Lindbergh. There's no infill station at Peachtree Circle/North Midtown. There's nothing being done to Five Points to move the bus bays underground and allow for the development of the air rights and improve user-friendliness.

This plan is full of more pet-projects, so I will be voting against it. Nothing to help commuters whatsoever!

Speaking of making a lot more sense, maybe wait until after the project list has actually been determined before declaring it's not worth voting for? The list isn't finalized until the city council has provided their input, and they've got until July.

[BunkyWay]

Originally Posted by Verge

The problem, of course, being that Amour is actually where the Beltline is located-- This T-Splost is one of the most important votes in the history of the city-- One that will help to determine determine the future of Atlanta. I urge folks to vote Yes-- we won't get any more chances anytime soon. It represents the beginning of a comprehensive, big city transit plan. Voting against it because you don't agree with a project or two is 'cutting off your nose to spite your face', and quite counter-productive to making ATLANTA the more urbane and livable place that we all want it to be. It's a shame it's not region wide, but the city-proper needs to set an example for our more transit averse neighbors.

The City needs to learn its lesson the hard way: transit should serve commuters and residents. The current streetcar was built to serve tourists and ghosts, and it has been a multi-million dollar disaster.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

The City needs to learn its lesson the hard way: transit should serve commuters and residents. The current streetcar was built to serve tourists and ghosts, and it has been a multi-million dollar disaster.

The current streetcar was the small start of a larger system that will get approved for expansion onto the Beltline / dedicated RoW this November. It was as good as any place to start the system, but a 1.3 mile loop in mixed traffic should not be judged on the same scale as a full transit system.

[Verge]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

The City needs to learn its lesson the hard way: transit should serve commuters and residents. The current streetcar was built to serve tourists and ghosts, and it has been a multi-million dollar disaster.

The much more robust and comprehensive street car system that was shown is definitely a step in the right direction as is transit along the Beltline. The Downtown street car was not even a MARTA project BTW--

[MdtwnATL]

Originally Posted by Verge

The much more robust and comprehensive street car system that was shown is definitely a step in the right direction as is transit along the Beltline. The Downtown street car was not even a MARTA project BTW--

Question - what's the different in street cars and busses, other than the street cars being electric? They are sharing the same roads, obeying the same traffic laws, etc. What's the benefit? Just curious.

[clexmond]

Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

Question - what's the different in street cars and busses, other than the street cars being electric? They are sharing the same roads, obeying the same traffic laws, etc. What's the benefit? Just curious.

Permanence. The ability to rely on the streetcar taking the same path, because you can see the tracks in the ground, encourages higher ridership and investment in the area.

[cabasse]

^not to mention they're quieter, they accelerate faster and more smoothly (no gears, like electric cars) and the rails are smoother than bus tires on asphalt.

[SuperNice]

Does anyone have an update regarding the sale of Underground Atlanta or the Civic Center? These two sales by the City, coupled with the redevelopment proposals previously presented for each respective site, are game changers for areas South of Midtown. Somehow they appear to have fallen completely off the radar. Any updates would be greatly appreciated.

[jsvh]

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/print...m-mixed-use-project-set-for-decatur.html

Cousins Properties Inc. and AMLI Residential want to start a $77 million redevelopment this year that will turn an aging downtown Decatur government building into a mix of new apartments, office space and stores.

Looks like the building at Trinity Pl / Commerce / McDonough in Downtown Decatur is getting redeveloped.

[Newnan_Eric]

Originally Posted by SuperNice

Does anyone have an update regarding the sale of Underground Atlanta or the Civic Center? These two sales by the City, coupled with the redevelopment proposals previously presented for each respective site, are game changers for areas South of Midtown. Somehow they appear to have fallen completely off the radar. Any updates would be greatly appreciated.

I'm also curious about those. Also, what is the status of the lawsuit to close the Peachtree-Pine Shelter?

And, while we're at it, wasn't the city trying to sell the old Atlanta Constitution building?

[jsvh]

I was at an event the other week where Tim Keane was asked about the status of Underground and said it is still in the works. Still trying to work out the land swap for the parking lot owned by the state.

[MdtwnATL]

Originally Posted by cabasse

^not to mention they're quieter, they accelerate faster and more smoothly (no gears, like electric cars) and the rails are smoother than bus tires on asphalt.

So it sounds like it's more of just a perception advantage. They aren't going to get anyone anywhere any faster than if they hopped on a bus...taking the same exact route.