DENVER | Main Development Thread #6

[Fritzdude]

Originally Posted by DenverInfill

There's about a 0.001% chance the park bridge will happen. But the building at the corner is high probability.

Why would the photos and plans be published if there wasn't at least a goal of making this happen?

I think freeing the park of at least one lane of traffic would enliven the pedestrian activity.

[The Dirt]

That's too bad about the cap. I assume they want to do it but it's last in priority, it's expensive and they have no money for it.

[EngiNerd]

Luxury all the things!

River Row: Million dollar RiNo homes
Posted by John Rebchook

Million dollar homes are coming to RiNo.

A husband and wife team plan 23 luxury townhomes along the South Platte River.

The 3-story townhome River Row towhomes on an acre-site between 33rd Street and the city’s planned River North Park, will be priced from $1.15 million to just under $1.5 million.

They will range in size from 2,140 square feet to 2,450 square feet.

“I do think RiNo is ready for homes in this price range, because this is such a unique site,” said Deviree Vallejo, a broker Kentwood City Properties.

“I can’t think of anywhere else in Denver where you can be on the river where there is going to be a new promenade, a pedestrian/bike path and you are right next to downtown,” said Vallejo, who is listing the River Row Homes at DriveTrain with Wendy Glazer of Kentwood Cherry Creek.

The River Row Homes will be the first phase of a mixed-use development that could include a boutique hotel, condos, retail and live-work space for artists.

....

http://www.denverrealestatewatch.com/2016/04/28/river-row-million-dollar-rino-homes/

[RyanD]

[QUOTE=Octavian;7423043]

Originally Posted by RyanD

Hahaha,

the area on level 1 between the trains and the buses, at the bottom of the 5 story escalator.

Haha! Working on it!

Also Cirrus, I rode the train last night and there was ample cover for the entire train under the DIA canopy!

[Alchemist]

Originally Posted by Fritzdude

Why would the photos and plans be published if there wasn't at least a goal of making this happen?

I think freeing the park of at least one lane of traffic would enliven the pedestrian activity.

I skimmed through the full document once and I think there was some concerns about the historical status of the park and grounds being an issue for substantial changes. However, there was a "Bridge Concept" alternative that was developed at the same time by the architects. It is shown in the 'Appendix 2-C West Lawn' document on the same website.

[CherryCreek]

Originally Posted by EngiNerd

Luxury all the things!

That vast expanse of Coor's Field Parking has got to go. When it was built the area was an industrial waste land and the highest and best use of everything there was parking.

Not so anymore. I think the north part of the parking lot is rarely full.... the district should sell the northern third of the property for development.

[enjo13]

Luxury all the things!

It'll be interesting to see if they can actually sell those. It's not a good location. I know that stretch of Brighton is all the rage, but it's a LONG LONG ways from coming to fruition. Even then you're tucked off in a weird corner far away from most things. The Riverfront in that area is kind of mess too since we've driven so much of the homeless down the Platte.

It's not Riverfront park...


Then again with the way the housing market is, there is probably a waiting list two miles long already.

[CherryCreek]

Originally Posted by enjo13

It'll be interesting to see if they can actually sell those. It's not a good location. I know that stretch of Brighton is all the rage, but it's a LONG LONG ways from coming to fruition. Even then you're tucked off in a weird corner far away from most things. The Riverfront in that area is kind of mess too since we've driven so much of the homeless down the Platte.

It's not Riverfront park...


Then again with the way the housing market is, there is probably a waiting list two miles long already.

Maybe develop a small park as part of it and suddenly the development potential is much greater!

[Stonemans_rowJ]

Originally Posted by enjo13

It'll be interesting to see if they can actually sell those. It's not a good location. I know that stretch of Brighton is all the rage, but it's a LONG LONG ways from coming to fruition. Even then you're tucked off in a weird corner far away from most things. The Riverfront in that area is kind of mess too since we've driven so much of the homeless down the Platte.

It's not Riverfront park...


Then again with the way the housing market is, there is probably a waiting list two miles long already.

I highly doubt there is any waiting list and these will be an incredibly tough sell at those prices.

Location is awful for luxury product.

[PLANSIT]

Originally Posted by enjo13

It'll be interesting to see if they can actually sell those. It's not a good location. I know that stretch of Brighton is all the rage, but it's a LONG LONG ways from coming to fruition. Even then you're tucked off in a weird corner far away from most things. The Riverfront in that area is kind of mess too since we've driven so much of the homeless down the Platte.

It's not Riverfront park...


Then again with the way the housing market is, there is probably a waiting list two miles long already.

Roughly 70% of lots up to 38th along Brighton are in play at this point - many of those in at some level of design review - including several projects on adjacent streets. The reconstruction of Brighton itself begins this summer and the park should be expected to start construction sometime in 2017.

IMO, this is a perfect location and should sell well. The only unresolved issue is probably the Platte as you mentioned.

[PLANSIT]

Originally Posted by DenverInfill

There's about a 0.001% chance the park bridge will happen. But the building at the corner is high probability.

From what I've heard/read, the State is looking at the deck and subsequent parking garage as a safety/security improvement to allow legislators better access to the building, while eliminating the ring road. Under this premise, there may be plans to go after Homeland Security type Federal funding.

So, I'd give it a full 1% chance.

[wong21fr]

Originally Posted by enjo13

The Riverfront in that area is kind of mess too since we've driven so much of the homeless down the Platte.

It's not Riverfront park...

I think the slogan should be, "Don't stop until the homeless are in Commerce City"

[Stonemans_rowJ]

Originally Posted by PLANSIT

Roughly 70% of lots up to 38th along Brighton are in play at this point - many of those in at some level of design review - including several projects on adjacent streets. The reconstruction of Brighton itself begins this summer and the park should be expected to start construction sometime in 2017.

IMO, this is a perfect location and should sell well. The only unresolved issue is probably the Platte as you mentioned.

In my experience buyers in the $1M+ price range will expect a lot more location-based amenities than this location currently offers.

I agree that this whole area has residential potential, just not for that product and price. Towhomes at 400k? Sure

[bunt_q]

[QUOTE=RyanD;7423793]

Originally Posted by Octavian

Haha! Working on it!

Also Cirrus, I rode the train last night and there was ample cover for the entire train under the DIA canopy!

Our findings:

[Cirrus]

So the DIA canopy is long enough but they often (or always?) don't use it. Bunt, were there parked trains in storage under the canopy when you took that? I could understand needing layover space at an end-line station.

Also, what in FSM's name is this?

[awholeparade]

Haha. That is an incorrect rendering of The Source Hotel.

Originally Posted by Cirrus

So the DIA canopy is long enough but they often (or always?) don't use it. Bunt, were there parked trains in storage under the canopy when you took that? I could understand needing layover space at an end-line station.

Also, what in FSM's name is this?

[bunt_q]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

So the DIA canopy is long enough but they often (or always?) don't use it. Bunt, were there parked trains in storage under the canopy when you took that? I could understand needing layover space at an end-line station.

No storage to speak of, I don't think headways are frequent enough to really require it (there are also single-track portions). It seems they just leave arriving trains sit, and those are the next return trains. So the outbound platform alternates.

[The Dirt]

What's the ridership like now that it's no longer free?

[hammersklavier]

[QUOTE=bunt_q;7424442]

Originally Posted by RyanD

Our findings:

Do they have railfan seats in them?

(Philly's do, but they're permanently blocked off because of the engineers' union.)

[Fritzdude]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

So, is Atkins (the road next to the river) going to be turned into a "promenade" or will it still be open to thru traffic? I hate having roads right next to the river.