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Old Posted Apr 21, 2016, 3:17 AM
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Just a re-up that the EAC is hosting a meeting tonight at 5 about the Colonial Honda plan to rip down the Fern Lane area and build a parking lot. It's mainly a local neighbourhood thing, but it's open to anyone, especially North Enders generally.

The councillor has been reticent to go too aggressive on the issue since it's permitted by zoning, but I think she can be swayed to take a harder stance. Again, I think an email to her plus the mayor would go a long way to edging things towards a firmer anti-Colonial Honda stance.
Will the car wash on Fern be ripped down ?
I'm doubtful the area will be a long term parking lot. The residents should write to Rob Steele and ask for a private meeting on neutral territory.
We bought our car there and have all maintenance at Portland Street Honda. If I lived over there they'd need chains to keep me down.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2016, 12:43 PM
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Will the car wash on Fern be ripped down ?
I'm doubtful the area will be a long term parking lot. The residents should write to Rob Steele and ask for a private meeting on neutral territory.
We bought our car there and have all maintenance at Portland Street Honda. If I lived over there they'd need chains to keep me down.
I dunno. They haven't been at all forthcoming about the plans, except to say that it's going to be a parking facility.

One thing that came up at the meeting last night is that someone who works at Colonial said that the dealership was being pressured to expand from higher-ups, because a dealership with its sales, should be a certain size, etc. I don't know if that's true or just some baseless rumour, but it does make apparent another avenue of appeal: A. Honda Canada probably has no familiarity with the city, and may not realize the ramifications of stamping out this neighbourhood (I guarantee this wouldn't be happening in Toronto) and B. They may not wish to have the words "Honda" and "destroys neighbourhood" associated.

There is a plan to have a (polite) meeting with Steele, but the idea is to do it at the EAC. In any case, he's been ignoring meeting requests, so it may or may not happen.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2016, 12:50 PM
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The Spring Garden Road facade of the apartment building isn't that impressive but the Robie side would look great if it were cleaned up a bit (and ideally painted something other than "about-to-be-demolished blue"). Over a decade ago the wooden facade of the Garden Crest apartments was preserved and they were built into a nice mixed-use development with a highrise component. That should be possible here too. The fact that the developer is asking for input before the plans have come out is encouraging.

I think 5950 and 5954 SGR should be preserved as well. Something could be done to either preserve the facade of the townhouse/apartment building to the right of 5954, or at least the bay window style could be added to a portion of the new building as a nod to one of the city's best vernacular styles. Imagine how nice it would be if there were a kind of competent reinterpretation of that building into a 4 or 5 storey apartment building similar in scale to what you might see in Brooklyn.

Something on this scale but in a style more typical of Halifax: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6874361,...xI7DNazOoVGTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

That would provide the transition to the heritage homes but then there would be modern elements and a highrise in behind.
The developer and architect genuinely seems open to input, so it can't hurt to send that idea along. Brent Toderian, former Vancouver planner, is consulting on the project and he's definitely pro-heritage. And there was a lot of talk about how to bring the building down to meet SGR at a pedestrian-centric scale, in order to, in Toderian's words, "meet or exceed what's there now."

Of course there's a publicity stunt angle to the consultations and neighbourhood meetings, but I'm trying to be un-cynical. If they go to all this time and effort and then don't incorporate feedback, that'd be a bigger PR blunder than just proceeding without all the consultation.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2016, 2:48 AM
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I just read on FB that all Pets Unlimited stores are closing via Halifax ReTales
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2016, 3:45 AM
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The 'For Sale' signs are gone from the property(ies?) surrounding the Eastlink store. The unsightly premises citation is still tacked to the Spring Garden side.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2016, 7:19 PM
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Is there a site on here for 303 Washmill Lake?
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2016, 9:29 PM
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Is there a site on here for 303 Washmill Lake?
There's no thread for it but it is mentioned in the Suburban & Rural Developments Thread, on Cushman Wakefield's website, and some photos are available on Halifax Developments Blog.
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The small building going up on Kaye St in the Hydrostone is now 2 floors up.

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Old Posted Apr 28, 2016, 3:17 AM
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A bit noisy but it shows the Maple, Roy, and Nova Centre:


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Old Posted Apr 28, 2016, 11:36 AM
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A bit noisy but it shows the Maple, Roy, and Nova Centre:


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I thought the Joe Howe bldg (just past Province House in the pic) was being gutted and redeveloped? Looks pretty occupied.
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I would guess that the lights in Joe Howe are left on all nite so we can send lots of tax money to the poor folks at NSP
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2016, 10:25 PM
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Will the car wash on Fern be ripped down ?
I'm doubtful the area will be a long term parking lot. The residents should write to Rob Steele and ask for a private meeting on neutral territory.
We bought our car there and have all maintenance at Portland Street Honda. If I lived over there they'd need chains to keep me down.

This just appeared online:



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Not sure how accurate it is given the somewhat self-interested source but interesting nevertheless.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2016, 11:06 PM
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Not sure how accurate it is given the somewhat self-interested source but interesting nevertheless.
If what Colin posted a few days ago is accurate, it's inaccurate, but only in that the actual number of properties to be demolished is slightly greater, including two more houses east on North Street.

A neighbourhood resident I know says that an employee at the dealership (I know, getting into the telephone game here) also said that Steele wants the north side of McCully, but isn't going to bother if there are any holdouts.

Honestly, looking at that map, the "it's as of right" argument is wildly insufficient. If this city can't go to bat to save a whole community from demolition for a parking lot (and the Fern Lane area does have a distinct mini-neighbourhood feel), what the hell does that say about the city?
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2016, 11:33 PM
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Starfish Properties is back at it!

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Old Posted Apr 29, 2016, 3:41 AM
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1665 Barrington
Amazing! The confidence that Starfish continues to show in downtown Halifax (specifically Barrington) is very encouraging. On top of that, this block seems to be quickly becoming a destination - very interesting and attractive developments with (imo) an ideal mix of old and new, along with excellent new retail / pubs / restaurants.

I think this development would fit perfectly, and provide a nice step up to the Roy tower. I can only hope that the other two smaller neighbouring buildings will be revitalized / redeveloped in a similar way.
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This looks quite fine. This is the "Higgins ad" building. Be nice to see it cleaned up on the outside, and restored windows. I really like the setback. Too bad Starfish couldn't have gotten ahold of the Doyle block.
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This looks quite fine. This is the "Higgins ad" building. Be nice to see it cleaned up on the outside, and restored windows. I really like the setback. Too bad Starfish couldn't have gotten ahold of the Doyle block.
But then it would have been "under construction" for 5 years. And I suspect property values on SGR are considerably more than on Barrington, so there likely would be no economic case to support the reno costs.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2016, 3:13 PM
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But then it would have been "under construction" for 5 years. And I suspect property values on SGR are considerably more than on Barrington, so there likely would be no economic case to support the reno costs.
I don't think that's true. I've seen way more ambitious renovations of heritage buildings with no additional building footprint or height, in cities both poor (Saint John) and wealthy (Toronto).

The argument that there's insufficient economic case for restoration doesn't wash at all, to me. They just didn't want to do it.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2016, 4:50 PM
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I don't think that's true. I've seen way more ambitious renovations of heritage buildings with no additional building footprint or height, in cities both poor (Saint John) and wealthy (Toronto).

The argument that there's insufficient economic case for restoration doesn't wash at all, to me. They just didn't want to do it.
It seemed like there were more restoration projects in Halifax around the late 90's-early 2000's than there are today, even though the city's economy and the downtown area in particular are doing better now. A few examples I can remember are the Johnston Building, the white terracotta one on the corner of Granville and Duke, 1717 Barrington, and the "Renaissance" and Attica buildings on Barrington. Those used to be similar in shape to average not-recently-restored buildings along Barrington.

I suspect the demolition problems are related mostly to high property values and the lack of good heritage regulation. Without the regulation, heritage buildings get priced for demolition and redevelopment into a highrise. This wasn't so bad 15 years ago when interest rates were higher and demand for new development was lower, but it affects a huge number of properties today. If there were stronger rules preventing demolition prices would fall and the buildings could be profitably rented out to tenants. The Green Lantern as one example was sold for something like $5M+ and the (presumably) only way to make that work (as an investment with reasonable returns) was to add a bunch of extra floors and build it at the same time as the new tower next door. In an alternate universe maybe that building would have been $2M and a landlord could have just bought it, fixed it up, and rented it out. I don't think the Green Lantern outcome is bad but it's a good example of the dynamic at play.

Another problem that has been covered before is that for the most part Halifax's planning department seems to operate, and is treated by council, as, say, the driver's license office, a place where bureaucrats verify forms and hand out permits to whoever checked the right box. I don't really know the internal workings, but there doesn't much of a creative mandate to make the city as great as it could be (and if the city is in a situation like that then it will be hard to get out of it because the most talented and creative employees will go elsewhere). We saw a bit of direction when Andy Fillmore was around and HbD was developed.

My overall impression is that the city is making a lot of forward progress but that, with relatively few exceptions, this is in spite of rather than because of the layers of government and bureaucracy. I wouldn't get too discouraged because I think the city is broadly headed in the right direction, and will be a much more interesting place in the coming years, but there will be more disappointment to come along with the victories because of the city's mediocre urban planning and poor public sector coordination.

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