DENVER | Main Development Thread #6 - Page 402

RyanD · #**8021** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 3:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cirrus

Wait. The platform for the train isn't actually under the main canopy? —?

It is... For some reason they didn't pull them in that far for opening day? I'm thinking that's like 80% true. I'm riding it tonight, I'll report back.

ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH YOUR PICTURES YET?!?

Cirrus · #**8022** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 4:05 PM**

I'm like 80% satisfied. Still waiting on VelociRFTA.

Sam Hill · #**8023** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 4:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by CherryCreek

I like this new project in Jefferson Park previewed by Ken on Denver Infill.

Nice modern edges. Great colors. No faux old bricks to lamely imitate historical architecture.

So much nicer than the VIA on Lincoln or the Gables Speer on Speer!

I have to disagree. It looks like white stucco to me and the design itself is bland and utilitarian. Yuck. Like every other lightly-colored stucco building that has gone up in the last couple decades, this looks like it belongs in Florida or Southern California or something, and doesn't fit Denver. (Then again, now that there are so many of these things all over the place, maybe it does.) Hopefully it looks better than the renderings once it's built.

DenverInfill · #**8024** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by RyanD

It is... For some reason they didn't pull them in that far for opening day? I'm thinking that's like 80% true. I'm riding it tonight, I'll report back.

ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH YOUR PICTURES YET?!?

It looked to me that if the train had pulled all the way up to the end of the platform like normal, the back end is right about where the end of the canopy is.

PLANSIT · #**8025** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 6:12 PM**

Looks like the parking lot at Colfax/Lincoln may be going away (State property):

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Site Address and Description
2016PM0000249 - State Office Building - 15th and Lincoln

Robert.hampton · #**8026** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 6:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by PLANSIT

Looks like the parking lot at Colfax/Lincoln may be going away (State property):

Looks like elements from the Capitol Complex Materplan are coming to fruition.

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sites/default/files/5-Urban%20Design_2.pdf

I guess they will try to get some street level retail which will be great for that area......in addition to the civic center revamp that part of colfax might lose a little grit.

The Dirt · #**8027** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 6:45 PM**

Thank you for posting this! I had no idea there were any plans to tunnel Lincoln between 14th and Colfax. That is fantastic!

EngiNerd · #**8028** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 7:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Dirt

Thank you for posting this! I had no idea there were any plans to tunnel Lincoln between 14th and Colfax. That is fantastic!

I think its more of raising the park and placing a lid overtop rather than lowering and tunneling Lincoln, but agree, that is awesome!

I'll believe it when I see it for that building on the corner of 15th and Colfax....there have been plans for a building on that site for a LONG time, and they never seem to come to fruition.

corey · #**8029** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 7:23 PM**

I agreed whole-heartedly with Anthony Paglia in his hilarious Westword article. He does start the article by speaking of the best new buildings in Denver. But in any decade in history you can easily complain about the ugliness and cheapness of the vast majority of buildings being constructed anywhere in the world. I've been to every major city in the US and Canada and it is the same situation in all of them. I'm currently in LA and the vast amount of ugly — boggles the mind (Huntington Beach, YUCK!!!).

I'm really excited if the CO State building will finally be built at Lincoln and Colfax! Another one of my most despised parking lots will be gone.

corey · #**8030** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 8:21 PM**

BTW, I went to high school with Craig Nassi, the developer of the Prado, Beauvalon, and the Belvedere, all mentioned in the Westword article as examples of Baroque-A-Cola. I understand he is developing similar — in NYC now.

rds70 · #**8031** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 9:01 PM**

A building permit application has been submitted for The Coloradan adjacent to the Union Station train platform on Wewatta. The first downtown condo building in more than six years.

mhays · #**8032** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 9:23 PM**

Hmmm...I bet that's related to condo values rising a little faster than development costs lately. Money, the magical elixir...

TakeFive · #**8033** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 9:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by mhays

Hmmm...I bet that's related to condo values rising a little faster than development costs lately. Money, the magical elixir...

Couple of things.

High end condos aren't the issue; they're more able to absorb the insurance costs. Additionally, it's my understanding that for quality developments that include more rigorous quality control procedures, insurance companies have lowered their premiums. Lastly there may exist a positive belief of finally getting a construction defects fix passed. That might include an optimism of a Republican takeover of the State House and keeping the Senate (at he state level). The Dem governor is NOT the problem.

Octavian · #**8034** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 10:03 PM**

[QUOTE=RyanD;7422402]As promised:

Fastracks Progress: Denver Airport Station

Looks sharp - but what about the inside?

RyanD · #**8035** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 10:09 PM**

[QUOTE=Octavian;7423017]

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Originally Posted by RyanD

As promised:

Fastracks Progress: Denver Airport Station

Looks sharp - but what about the inside?

Inside the Terminal? Hotel? Train? My... Soul?

Octavian · #**8036** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 10:22 PM**

[QUOTE=RyanD;7423027]

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Originally Posted by Octavian

Inside the Terminal? Hotel? Train? My... Soul?

Hahaha,

the area on level 1 between the trains and the buses, at the bottom of the 5 story escalator.

TakeFive · #**8037** Posted **Apr 27, 2016, 11:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by bcp

More rigorous quality standards for,some developments than others?

Do you mean self imposed? Or Building and fire code?

Self imposed. My understanding is that initially as a defensive approach to assure they wouldn't need to worry about being sued whereupon they found insurance companies willing to drop their premiums for "better practices."

DenverInfill · #**8038** Posted **Apr 28, 2016, 3:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Dirt

Thank you for posting this! I had no idea there were any plans to tunnel Lincoln between 14th and Colfax. That is fantastic!

There's about a 0.001% chance the park bridge will happen. But the building at the corner is high probability.

bunt_q · #**8039** Posted **Apr 28, 2016, 4:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by mhays

Hmmm...I bet that's related to condo values rising a little faster than development costs lately. Money, the magical elixir...

Or a city ordinance passed recently to at least give them a fighting chance in court. Seems more likely given that just happened, rather than we've coincidentally just crossed some magical threshold that the five other buildings still under construction in a few block radius weren't privy to.

mhays · #**8040** Posted **Apr 28, 2016, 5:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by TakeFive

Couple of things.

High end condos aren't the issue; they're more able to absorb the insurance costs. Additionally, it's my understanding that for quality developments that include more rigorous quality control procedures, insurance companies have lowered their premiums. Lastly there may exist a positive belief of finally getting a construction defects fix passed. That might include an optimism of a Republican takeover of the State House and keeping the Senate (at he state level). The Dem governor is NOT the problem.

Sounds like my state. Prices got high enough and a few developers have found a way. I bet that's a bigger factor than the legislative/legal hopefulness a couple of you are referring to.

There's a high-end focus here too on the projects that have started so far, which have also not had to use pre-sales to get financed. Next month we'll see how the presale model works as that's starting on project #4.