ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[Pemgin]

Ansley Park is going to NIMBY that to death.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

Ansley Park is going to NIMBY that to death.

Please state what you are referencing?

[alco89]

Originally Posted by bigstick

Please state what you are referencing?

They're not gonna like having that building towering over their houses.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by alco89

They're not gonna like having that building towering over their houses.

It is closer to Atlantic Station than to Ansley Park.

[thepope117]

Originally Posted by bigstick

It is closer to Atlantic Station than to Ansley Park.

Nope its right on the border with Ansley. I think it will be OK though. The step-down on the back of the buildings and the fact that the tower would be further in toward peachtree shuld make it palatable.

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by bigstick

It is closer to Atlantic Station than to Ansley Park.

It's literally 1 block away from Ansley Park....how the heck is it closer to Atlantic Station?

[MdtwnATL]

As beautiful as it is, Ansley Park neighborhood is what's now out of place in the middle of an urban core. It is what it is. It won't be the last tower to go up near the neighborhood. They should just get used to it.

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by RATBOYKEV

The DAR house in Midtown at 15th & Piedmont met its end today. Heavy equipment took down what was left. After a partial collapse while under renovation in 2014 all work stopped and the lot has sat idle ever since. Sad to see another missed opportunity for adaptive reuse in Atlanta.

Oh my God...rest in peace, House of Craigie. It would be a shame if we didn't see the beautiful columns repurposed elsewhere.

[scania]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

smArTaLlone posted glossy new renderings for Peachtree and 17th street, but no one really looks in the Project/Construction thread in the Atlanta forum much so I'll post it here.

Peachtree and 17th




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Looks really nice. Finally Atlanta is getting a slender, tall tower. About 45 stories, but I think the tower will probably be somewhere around 470-500 feet because some floors are larger than 10 feet. The street level looks pretty good...higher quality than a lot of the stuff around Midtown. Great development overall for the area.

This is super cool. Not overly keen on the location...but I'll take it.

[scania]

Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

As beautiful as it is, Ansley Park neighborhood is what's now out of place in the middle of an urban core. It is what it is. It won't be the last tower to go up near the neighborhood. They should just get used to it.

I don't think it's in the middle of an urban core. Maybe next door...once you get past 15th, it's not that style of urban.

[ATLmangum]

Originally Posted by scania

I don't think it's in the middle of an urban core. Maybe next door...once you get past 15th, it's not that style of urban.

But maybe more developments will follow...

[thepope117]

Originally Posted by ATLmangum

But maybe more developments will follow...

Land value and the premium you get in town for a midtown or Buckhead address makes it inevitable. The stretch of 17th leading up to Ansley is being developed in full coming out of Atlantic Station and that's just looking at the proposed developments from this cycle.

Sidebar, wouldn't it be nice to see Hines plop the big office building they were planning for Perimeter that got nimbied to death on the plot they bought in Atlantic station not long after the nimbies blew up their plans in Perimeter. I found it all too convenient that they snatched up the big plot 2 blocks down from the Atlantic so soon after it became clear that the dreams of building the tallest building in a suburb were killed.

[atlwarrior]

Originally Posted by scania

This is super cool. Not overly keen on the location...but I'll take it.

Well there goes the easy to commute on 85 access road, but the building is a beauty. Any details on when ground breaking will happen.

[arjay57]

Sounds like big things are afoot in Hapeville.


A DECADE LATER, $500M HAPEVILLE CITY CENTER REDO MOVING FORWARD

[atlantaguy]

Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

As beautiful as it is, Ansley Park neighborhood is what's now out of place in the middle of an urban core. It is what it is. It won't be the last tower to go up near the neighborhood. They should just get used to it.

I have news for you, they already are used to it. Colony Square went up in the 70's. The large majority of people that live in Ansley Park treasure their location, and most wouldn't live elsewhere. They love being directly adjacent to Midtown. I have two friends that have lived there for 10 and 12 years respectively, and they are SHOCKED at what their values are now. You couldn't blast them out of there, even with their huge property tax increases.

That being said, this neighborhood is an absolute treasure and predates what most of us know as 'Midtown.' It is a legacy of the Olmstead's, and many large cities would kill for this sort of neighborhood in their midst. This proposal at the proposed height on the NE corner of Peachtree & 17th is totally inappropriate in scale, and location. I also have serious doubts about the financial backing for this development to begin with.

There are many, many other more appropriate lots available for something this tall. The office and hotel portion look fantastic, and the same number of condo's could be accommodated - but with a totally different and much less tall design. I know this is sacrilegious to even utter these thoughts with many here, but I could care less.

I may be wrong, but I believe it was you that also advocated for the clear-cutting of trees in the still SFH residential hoods in Midtown on another site today. If true, there's a LOT you don't know about Atlanta's DNA. If I'm wrong, apologies are in order.

[atlantaguy]

I'm also under the impression that MetLife is still interested in the Metropolitan Center development they proposed pre-Recession between West Peachtree & Spring, at 17th Street. This would be a perfect fit there.

And there is a reason I spelled Recession with a capital R. We have never been this late to a recovery, but Atlanta is exploding with development at a rate never witnessed in any of our lifetimes. It deserves a capital R.

[Verge]

Originally Posted by atlantaguy

I'm also under the impression that MetLife is still interested in the Metropolitan Center development they proposed pre-Recession between West Peachtree & Spring, at 17th Street. This would be a perfect fit there.

And there is a reason I spelled Recession with a capital R. We have never been this late to a recovery, but Atlanta is exploding with development at a rate never witnessed in any of our lifetimes. It deserves a capital R.

Although I very strongly agree with you about Atlanta'a unique character-- high-rises nestled next to leafy urban neighborhoods-- Projects are not interchangeable-- they are separate deals owned by different people-- Metlife already has a apartment building planned for their site (one day).

Personally I think Peachtree is a high-rise corridor where (very) tall buildings belong, AND that Ansley and other close-by neighborhood must be preserved-- these things are not mutually exclusive and are what give this city its unique character.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

DRC Recap Deets:


High Performance Computing Center

Portman Holdings returned to the DRC to present an update to the High Performance Computing Center, located on the east side of Spring Street, between Armstead Place and 4th Street. The project includes approximately 748,500 SF of office space, street-level retail/restaurant space, a data center and the existing Crum and Forster building, as well as 600 parking spaces below grade. The design team continues to refine several key aspects of the project, including the street level façades and the central plaza located between the 21-story office tower and the 3-story data center. The committee requested further refinement of the façade treatment on the data center, as well as a consolidated concept for the plaza space that reflects the best elements of the various schemes presented to date.


The Standard

Landmark and Selig Enterprises' student housing project at the southwest corner of Spring Street and 4th Street also returned to the DRC for a second review. The revised proposal for the 19-story project includes 253 furnished residential units for students and 10,630 SF of commercial space at the street-level, including Starbucks coffee, which is currently located on the site. Parking is provided in a 10-story precast parking deck that is wrapped with residential units on the street-fronting façades. The committee requested several changes to the ground floor layout along the Spring Street frontage to improve safety and visibility by relocating a pedestrian breezeway and the fire command center.


195 Thirteenth Street

A new 27-story multifamily project on 13th Street by Lennar Multifamily Communities debuted at the DRC. The proposal includes 308 rental units with lobby, lounge, leasing and mailroom space on the ground floor. Parking is provided in a 7-level above-grade parking deck that is wrapped with residential units on the street-fronting façade and is topped with residential units and a courtyard. The project is still in a preliminary design phase and the applicant was asked to submit more detailed elevations and a refined landscape plan prior to final approval by the DRC.

1053, 1057 and 1069 Juniper Street

Restaurant group Metrotainment Cafes introduced a proposal to remove two existing vacant structures at 1069 and 1057 Juniper Street in order to provide additional valet parking space for Einstein’s and Joe’s on Juniper. This was a preliminary presentation to gauge the committee’s support for site plan and streetscape improvements along the segment of Juniper between 11th and 12th Street. The applicant is exploring several options that would address functional issues associated with valet parking operations and also provide a unique public space amenity for restaurant patrons and the surrounding community.

source: http://www.midtownatl.com/about/programs...nt-review-committee/april-2016-drc-recap (doesn't have DRC meeting notes yet)

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by atlantaguy

I'm also under the impression that MetLife is still interested in the Metropolitan Center development they proposed pre-Recession between West Peachtree

I haven't heard anything since last year, have you???

I'm ready for more 195 13th St. renderings.

[darkcarrington]

195 Thirteenth reminds me of 22 14th Street/Midtown Spring. Is it also a Related project?