YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Klazu]

Well this sucks, but I am not surprised. I have always found it strange how anyone can walk to the luggage carousels at the domestic terminal and snatch a bag. I hope they will crack down on it and also install some small gates to prevent general people from walking up there.

Global: RCMP using bait bags to crack down on baggage theft at YVR

An increase in baggage thefts at Vancouver International Airport has prompted Richmond RCMP to start using “bait bags” to catch thieves.

“I’m always impressed by YVR in so many ways compared to most other airports, but this lack of secure area as you leave the departures is one of the weakest points you’ll see in any terminal,” says Larry Issac.

The freelance sports producer says one of his bags was taken from carousel number six in February, after an Air Canada flight from Calgary to Vancouver.

“Bags have never been stolen from me before…it shocked me,” says Issac.

Global News has learned that at least 30 suitcases have been stolen from the domestic arrivals terminal since late January. The luggage carousels are not in a secure zone, and anyone from the public has access.

“All other airports you are still in the secure area as you go down the escalator. But [at YVR], thieves come off the SkyTrain platform and just blend in on the escalator as if they’re a fellow passenger. Not only do they have access..but they can come down with passengers on the escalator,” argues Issac.

The problem is so prevalent that Air Canada and the RCMP launched a ‘bait bag’ program in early February to catch the crooks. Richmond RCMP would not comment on the program, but say they are investigating, and that two people have been arrested and charged with theft under $5,000.

But Issac’s bag is still missing – and he’s hoping this situation forces YVR to increase security at the baggage carousels.

“It’s one area they have to fix up,” he says.

“This could be the trigger that gets them to remedy that aspect of it.”

http://globalnews.ca/news/2628174/rcmp-using-bait-bags-to-crack-down-on-baggage-theft-at-yvr/

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

The thing with China is that, even with 1x weekly, they might get the subsidy from local government AND prevent competitors from starting the route. It may not seems worth it for us, but with these factor in, who knows! The entire Hainan group (Tianjin, Beijing Capital, etc) is known for throwing 1x or 2x weekly flights between random airports all over the places

There are so many new routes popping up from China lately, and everything above 2x or 3x weekly seems more and more rare now....

All valid points... It is pretty crazy.... maybe they are throwing darts at a map... Let's fly from.... whoosh.... Shenyang to...... whoosh.... Sheboygan!



It's beer o'clock here btw!

[ShawnShank]

Does anyone know of any information relating to the time when TF-AAK (the Iron Maiden 744) is supposed to come in from Edmonton tomorrow? Hoping to get some shots of it landing

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by ShawnShank

Does anyone know of any information relating to the time when TF-AAK (the Iron Maiden 744) is supposed to come in from Edmonton tomorrow? Hoping to get some shots of it landing

I keep reading ETD YEG @1400 ETA YVR @1430.

Keep checking FR24 (Flight Radar 24) and/or Flightaware for more accurate information tomorrow morning.

They seem to be using the flight code CC666.

[Hourglass]

Didn't see this posted anywhere. Interesting article on the 1-year anniversary of Air France flights to YVR:

http://www.travelweek.ca/news/air-frances-first-year-yvr-route-exceeds-expectations/

Hope AF continues to grow @ YVR!

[trofirhen]

I recall the days when I used to rant interminably about the need for a direct Paris - YVR flight.
"Maybe Rouge seasonal...." / "it's only for those 'First Vacation in Paris types" / "not enough possible yield" / .... etc etc etc were the expert responses.
Well, now ....... what more can I say?

[Klazu]

The route has been there for an year now, so have you trofirhen flown it already? Sometimes I feel like we wish for routes without ever even planning to fly them.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Klazu

The route has been there for an year now, so have you trofirhen flown it already? Sometimes I feel like we wish for routes without ever even planning to fly them.

I was back in Vancouver just 2 1/2 months before it came into effect.
CDG-YUL-YVR to Vancouver, then YVR-SFO-CDG back here. It'll be on AF next time, I'm sure.
BTW, I don't have the money you have, so please excuse me if I don't fly as far or as often.

[Johnny Aussie]

The Air France article pretty much surmises most European services.

Strong in summer, struggle in winter. That's YVR for you.

Happy to hear they are exceeding their expectations though.

Be good to see it go to daily by next summer.

[Denscity]

Hey Johnny just wondering why the next new service to Oz is to BNE and not MEL?

[Johnny Aussie]

After doing a mini-loop just SE of Kelowna, looks like EFO will be on the ground in about 20 mins most likely on 26R.

Confirmed 26R and I distinctly heard a British accent from the pilot...

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Denscity

Hey Johnny just wondering why the next new service to Oz is to BNE and not MEL?

Although AC publicly stated MEL would have been their preferred market, BNE is an ideal route for a 788. My understanding is the 788 wouldn't be able to make MEL from YVR unrestricted and the 789 is just a wee bit on the large side. MEL is a much bigger market than BNE, but geography also plays a big role. BNE and SYD are better located for connections coming from NA. MEL would have to rely on O&D a lot more. So even though O&D is a lot higher from MEL to/from Canada, BNE can capture more of the traffic.

Also at the time of the initial route announcement, AC was restricted to the number of seats they could add to Australia. December last year the restriction was lifted and a much higher cap is being introduced in two steps. So prior to the new cap, AC would have been restricted to only three 788 flights per week. Taking into account the 77L is also increasing from 270 seats to 300 seats for the daily SYD flight. When the cap was lifted, AC jumped at making BNE daily vs say adding a new route to MEL as well. They are probably better off developing BNE before trying a third destination in Australia. Time will tell of course if/when AC decides to launch MEL.
One day it'll happen. I still think AC would be the carrier and not QF. QF will definitely do SYD-YVR so the race is on... who will be first QF SYD-YVR or AC MEL-YVR.... I tip the former.

[Klazu]

How long is YVR-MEL? I was just reading United's in-flight magazine and they mentioned their new route from San Francisco to Singapore being the longest Dreamliner flight in the world. I don't know if they fly a 787-8 or 787-9 (fo they even have a -9?) on that route, but it must be a long one. I wonder how that would compare to YVR-MEL?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Klazu

How long is YVR-MEL? I was just reading United's in-flight magazine and they mentioned their new route from San Francisco to Singapore being the longest Dreamliner flight in the world. I don't know if they fly a 787-8 or 787-9 (fo they even have a -9?) on that route, but it must be a long one. I wonder how that would compare to YVR-MEL?

SFO-SIN will be indeed on a 789 and it's about 250 miles further than YVR-MEL.... so that's one loooooong flight!

[ShawnShank]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

I keep reading ETD YEG @1400 ETA YVR @1430.

Keep checking FR24 (Flight Radar 24) and/or Flightaware for more accurate information tomorrow morning.

They seem to be using the flight code CC666.

Thanks, managed to catch it at around 15:03

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

AC just updated summer schedules and they are upgauging:

NRT from a 788 to a 77W
ICN from a 788 to a 789

When do they start? Checked on google flights yesterday but A/C types didnt seem to be updated

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by ShawnShank

Thanks, managed to catch it at around 15:03



When do they start? Checked on google flights yesterday but A/C types didnt seem to be updated

Yeah they were a bit late.... Even did a mini loop southeast of YLW.

Both flights switch to the larger planes on 17th June. That's the same day AC launches YVR-BNE.

[Klazu]

yvr.ca

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by Klazu

yvr.ca

Friggin Awesome!

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

332 would be just stretching it too far from SYD-YVR.

The new Dreamliners will come online next year!

http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-r...-symbolise-new-era-for-national-carrier/

Here's one of the many stories published speculating where they 787-9s will go.

http://www.traveller.com.au/qantas-boein...qantas-has-planned-for-new-planes-gj3tdb

MEL-DFW and SYD-YVR discussed frequently.

Thanks, sounds like it will be a great aircraft for that route, would love to see the roo in Vancouver year round.

I assume they will need to test them on smaller routes end of 2017, so we wouldn't be seeing them until some time in 2018?

[LeftCoaster]

Still linking to the Oct 2015 stats on the YVR website. Love the new look and all but would be great if they could get us the Feb stats, it's been 6 weeks now...