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[GoldenBoot]

Originally Posted by Digatisdi

February numbers released

Interesting notes:

Southwest Airlines up 23%, American Airlines up 36%, Frontier Airlines up 38%, Alaska Airlines up 43%, British Airways up 14%, Allegiant Air up 61%

Total for February was up 12%

Also the person who writes these has issues spelling "totalled"

The original release was a misprint. Traffic was up by 13.5% in Feb '16 not 12%. The link above has been corrected by the airport to reflect the accurate numbers.

[ATXboom]

Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

The original release was a misprint. Traffic was up by 13.5% in Feb '16 not 12%. The link above has been corrected by the airport to reflect the accurate numbers.

I hope the city needs no more evidence to stage the next expansion immediately after the east terminal expansion. My hopes aren't high though.

[electricron]

Is there any information which flight destinations are the most popular from Austin? Where do flyers from Austin fly to?

Before building more gates, are there any airlines wishing to lease more gates? Which should come first, Austin building more gates before lessees request them, or lessees requesting them before building them?

[brando]

Originally Posted by electricron

Is there any information which flight destinations are the most popular from Austin? Where do flyers from Austin fly to?

Before building more gates, are there any airlines wishing to lease more gates? Which should come first, Austin building more gates before lessees request them, or lessees requesting them before building them?

They'll have to close a few gates during the last phase of the terminal expansion but they won't get to that for a while. Keep in mind allegint and another budget airline are moving to the south terminal.

[the Genral]

Originally Posted by electricron

Is there any information which flight destinations are the most popular from Austin? Where do flyers from Austin fly to?

Before building more gates, are there any airlines wishing to lease more gates? Which should come first, Austin building more gates before lessees request them, or lessees requesting them before building them?

Per Wikipedia, DFW - 603,000, Atlanta - 469,000, Denver - 380,000, Dallas Love Field - 375,000, LA - 346,000, Houston - 312,000, Chicago - 278,000, Phoenix - 274,000,
SanFransico - 229,000, and JFK - 188,000 round out the top ten destinations. Mine is NY via Newark.

[jbssfelix]

Originally Posted by the Genral

Per Wikipedia, DFW - 603,000, Atlanta - 469,000, Denver - 380,000, Dallas Love Field - 375,000, LA - 346,000, Houston - 312,000, Chicago - 278,000, Phoenix - 274,000,
SanFransico - 229,000, and JFK - 188,000 round out the top ten destinations. Mine is NY via Newark.

Unsurprisingly, all the hubs:
DFW, Chicago, Phoenix, LAX, JFK = AA
Atlanta = Delta
Denver, Houston, San Fran, Chicago = United

[DoubleC]

But are those really Austin's top origins and destinations? Those could just be where people fly the most to straight from Austin, regardless of layovers.

[Jdawgboy]

Originally Posted by DoubleC

But are those really Austin's top origins and destinations? Those could just be where people fly the most to straight from Austin, regardless of layovers.

That's a good point . It would be interesting to see what the final destinations are. Maybe taking a look at just the direct flights that are not hubs? I'm sure there's data about the cities that are the top destinations from Austin but I'm assuming only the airlines and/or the airport would have that information.

[drummer]

I've got a direct flight from Hong Kong to DFW in a couple months, followed by a flight to Austin. I guarantee I'm not the only one doing those types of flights for work, etc. It was either DFW or Houston, though I've also gone through Chicago, San Francisco, LA, etc...

[jg6544]

Originally Posted by DoubleC

But are those really Austin's top origins and destinations? Those could just be where people fly the most to straight from Austin, regardless of layovers.

As long as I've known anything about it - going back 60 years or more - Austin has always been a "spoke destination" - people fly into Dallas or Houston and change planes for Austin. Austin has more direct flights to more cities now, of course; it has become a very large city with a vital economy. But I question whether it generates enough traffic, even today, to have dramatically more nonstops to major US and international cities than it does now.

[the Genral]

Most people, in fact the vast majority of people flying out of Austin, end up at the 10 hub airports I listed from wikipedia. I couldn't find any data on final destinations. But from that list, half of the top ten could be a final destination, Denver, Chicago, NY, San Francisco, LAX, where as Houston, Dallas, maybe not so much, and Atlanta and Phoenix, not sure. But if you are flying outside the country, even with our own daily non stop to London, you are going through the top ten. Many people I talk to insist on not flying non stop to anywhere over 5 hours flight time so they can at least stretch their legs between flight. My buddy flies frequently to London and refuses to non stop it from ABIA. He one stops either Atlanta, or JFK, not because its cheaper, but again, to stretch his legs.

[DoubleC]

We've pretty much got service to most major cities in the U.S., minus cities like Mileaukee and Kansas City. If any airline would serve to these non-hubs, the clear taker is Southwest.

Seems like lines aren't as short as they used to be.

http://kxan.com/2016/04/04/travelers...ustin-airport/

[austlar1]

Looks like Virgin and Alaska Air are going to merge. There go the discounted first class fares to California. Virgin offered frequent discounts on first, and United tended to match them, especially to the Bay Area. Oh, well....

[DoubleC]

Originally Posted by austlar1

Looks like Virgin and Alaska Air are going to merge. There go the discounted first class fares to California. Virgin offered frequent discounts on first, and United tended to match them, especially to the Bay Area. Oh, well....

Thats a bummer. The skies just keep getting less and less diverse each year, with fewer liveries and fewer aircraft types, and fewer options and less competition.

At least no hubs are likely to get cut.

[ATCZERO]

Austin Culture map just listed a new destination for SWA. AUS to ABQ starting in June.
http://austin.culturemap.com/news/tr...rlines-launch/

[GoldenBoot]

Originally Posted by ATCZERO

Austin Culture map just listed a new destination for SWA. AUS to ABQ starting in June.
http://austin.culturemap.com/news/tr...rlines-launch/

This route was brought on to compete directly with Allegiant's new AUS-ABQ route.

Also, this route is "seasonal" and will only fly once a week (on Sundays). However, as the article states (and was reiterated in articles in AAS and ABJ) that the "seasonal" could get lifted and/or more flights be added to the route...should the demand exist.

This one will be interesting to watch.

[brando]

Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

This route was brought on to compete directly with Allegiant's new AUS-ABQ route.

Also, this route is "seasonal" and will only fly once a week (on Sundays). However, as the article states (and was reiterated in articles in AAS and ABJ) that the "seasonal" could get lifted and/or more flights be added to the route...should the demand exist.

This one will be interesting to watch.

It could fly more often when Allegiant moves to the South Terminal.

[GoldenBoot]

I believe there may be some serious delays in the opening of the South Terminal...if it ever opens as a (currently proposed) low-cost terminal.

[jbssfelix]

I have the feeling that new route announcements are going to be fewer and farther between going forward, not because people don't want to fly to/from Austin, but because ABIA simply does not have the capacity to handle much more for the next couple years.

[Austin1971]

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