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Old Posted Jan 13, 2016, 5:36 PM
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I was at Bayshore today and WalMart is still not open. The former Target space on the 3rd floor is still boarded up.
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I heard that the Walmart is supposed to open today at Bayshore (or this week, at least). Some friends of mine were at the Lincoln Fields location and the shelves looked pretty empty apparently. Speaking to one of the employees, they found out that the Lincoln Fields location is shutting down completely and the staff should be moving to the Bayshore location. The employee said the switch would happen today...
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2016, 6:10 PM
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Walmart's move to Bayshore offers groceries, convenience, says general manager

Tom Pechloff, OBJ
Published on January 27, 2016


While Walmart is getting ready to celebrate its grand opening at Bayshore Shopping Centre Thursday, there are likely not as many happy faces among tenants at Lincoln Fields Shopping Centre, one retail analyst says.

The U.S. department store giant will close the doors of its location at Lincoln Fields for good on Wednesday night. But Barry Nabatian of Shore Tanner & Associates said the short-term pain of a vacant anchor tenant spot might actually provide mall management with an opportunity for future growth.

“They may have to do basically a rebranding, a good study of who their clients are, what’s their age and income group, where they’re coming (from) and what they need that they’re not offering now,” he said, adding that the results may be a bit surprising.

“There are a number of new condominiums within driving distance and more are planned, so I think that income levels there are going up as well,” he said.

Still, a discount retailer might be the best bet to fill the space, said Mr. Nabatian, adding that Marshalls, which has been on an aggressive expansion trajectory since entering Canada in 2011, could be a good fit.

“Otherwise, they would have to subdivide it and still, there are a lot of discount-type stores they could bring, factory outlet type of stores they could bring,” he said.

Mall owner RioCan has been in the headlines recently for its plans to redevelop the Westgate Shopping Centre, Gloucester Centre and Elmvale Acres by adding rental apartment buildings as high as 36 storeys on each property.

Mr. Nabatian said Lincoln Fields could be a candidate for a similar redevelopment.

As for Bayshore, Mr. Nabatian said he thinks the mall is more relieved than happy with Walmart’s arrival.

“In a way, they’re just trying to fill up the space because it is vacant and it just happens that Walmart was interested,” he said. “Clearly, they haven’t been able to get anybody else. Otherwise they would have.”

Mr. Nabatian said Walmart might not be the perfect fit for the mall, but Bayshore general manager Denis Pelletier disagrees.

“Our retailers are very excited,” he said. “Walmart is known to draw tremendous traffic wherever they are. The expectation is they will have a lot of crossover traffic as a result. I think that’s fair to say.”

Mr. Pelletier said the chain will fit just fine with the mall’s other retailers because even people in the market for pricier fashion items might need a basic extension cord or a pair of flip-flops for their kids. Higher-end consumers still like convenience, he added, and Walmart offers it.

“They’ve got a lot of stuff,” he said. “If you’re looking for something, there’s a pretty good chance they’ve got it.”

That includes groceries and fresh produce, something that hasn’t been available at a store in Bayshore since 2007. Shoppers have also missed not having a pharmacy, Mr. Pelletier said.

Mr. Nabatian said groceries will make up no more than 20 per cent of the space at the new Bayshore SuperCentre, but it will still address the nine-year absence of a food store.

Mr. Pelletier said he hopes Bayshore can help Walmart promote the e-grocery offering it has been testing in Ottawa for the past several months, since that would add even more convenience for Bayshore shoppers.

Mr. Pelletier said losing the Target store before it even opened “caused a half step back” for Bayshore, but the mall never lost any rental revenue because trustees took over the Target lease until it was transferred over to Walmart.

“That being said, planning on having an anchor open and not having it happen, it’s not ideal,” he said.

But Bayshore has been resilient, and the latest mix of retail offerings is working, Mr. Pelletier said.

“This is going to add another level, another dimension to it.”

http://www.obj.ca/Local/Retail/2016-01-2...2C-convenience%2C-says-general-manager/1
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2016, 10:34 PM
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I heard that the Walmart is supposed to open today at Bayshore (or this week, at least). Some friends of mine were at the Lincoln Fields location and the shelves looked pretty empty apparently. Speaking to one of the employees, they found out that the Lincoln Fields location is shutting down completely and the staff should be moving to the Bayshore location. The employee said the switch would happen today...
Yes I was at Bayshore today and WalMart is open! It is WalMart after all but considering what has gone here in the last little while with the Target fiasco, this is definitely good news for mall management as well as residents living in the area who have not had access to grocery store for well over more than a decade.

The 3rd floor of the mall is still pretty bare though, the previously vacant stores still have not been filled and let's just say that there is way more traffic on the 1st and 2nd floor.

Not sure what (big and well-known) stores will be coming to Bayshore next but I am sure that can't come soon enough!
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2016, 12:37 AM
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I was going to make a sarcastic comment "walmart, oh, how exciting." but ya, I guess it should be pretty exciting to finally get a grocery store in the area.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 2:44 PM
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The Chimney cake n roll by the Winners is now closed, I think they were open less than a year ago or so. Tough business.
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It seems like yesterday that I opened the Sony Store in Bayshore in 1998 and bought my lunches at the Independent Grocer. They had a conveyor at the front where the old folks could drop their groceries and staff would take them out to the car for them...I think Billings Bridge is the last grocery store in Ottawa with this service... One time a workmate and I bought some food there at lunch and he paid with a $5 bill that was fake (unbeknownst to him) and mall security came up with the police later in the afternoon and questioned us for a couple of hours. They even played good cop/bad cop and sequestered us individually with the bad cop yelling 'WHERE IS THE MONEY MACHINE?!?' Then there was Savoury's for a few months, which was basically Farm Boy before the market was ready for Farm Boy...and was there a Market Fresh? I'm not sure, I know there was a Market Fresh where DeSerres is now in St. Laurent... then Les Ailes De La Mode... then the redevelopment with the new hallways and Winner's Homesense.
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I remember the arcade on the first floor in front of the grocery store (Steinberg, Dominion, neither?). A buddy and I once spent about $10 in quarters each, a fortune back then, in our quest to defeat Double Dragon. We did it, but then later I had to explain to mom where all that money went. Triumph to tragedy.
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in our quest to defeat Double Dragon. We did it.
Respect.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2016, 9:12 AM
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It appears they are building something in the Old parking deck at the Bay end of Bayshore. Any one know what it is?
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It appears they are building something in the Old parking deck at the Bay end of Bayshore. Any one know what it is?

Crane is up at Bay end of Bayshore mall. Apparently they are putting the parking garage back that used to be there... Newly built of course

Kinda exepected them to leave this area as surface parking only. If they ever decide to expand, they will not have many options
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Crane is up at Bay end of Bayshore mall. Apparently they are putting the parking garage back that used to be there... Newly built of course

Kinda exepected them to leave this area as surface parking only. If they ever decide to expand, they will not have many options
I would have expected them to build better transit access somehow, rather than having people walk through a parking garage to get into the mall.
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I would have expected them to build better transit access somehow, rather than having people walk through a parking garage to get into the mall.
which is exactly the reason why I don't shop there.
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I was expecting floor expansion with the hope they had convinced the bay to occupy two floors instead of three.
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2016, 1:40 PM
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I was expecting floor expansion with the hope they had convinced the bay to occupy two floors instead of three.
I think you made a good point. Every time I go to the Bay Bayshore, the 3rd floor always looks empty, many people are simply not going to buy mattresses on a daily basis.

I think they can get rid of a lot of fluff and fit in 2 floors. Time for some new blood to take over that part of the Mall.
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2016, 3:47 PM
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Hopefully, proper transit integration will be built along with he extended O-Train 5-6 years from now.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2016, 5:15 PM
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Crane is up at Bay end of Bayshore mall. Apparently they are putting the parking garage back that used to be there... Newly built of course

Kinda exepected them to leave this area as surface parking only. If they ever decide to expand, they will not have many options
2 tower cranes now.
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Why does this mall seem to be suffering? Ten years ago it seemed like Rideau and Bayshore were 1A and 1B in terms of the city's malls.

The only things I can think of are the very bad reaction to the new parking structure, and the loss of Eatons/Target and replacement with Walmart.

On that first one, people seem to not understand how to get to the ramps. Hiding the ground floor starting points of the ramps as far away from the main ground floor car entrance is just boneheaded. I don't know why they didn't make the easternmost ramp start in the middle instead of the easternmost end of the ground floor, where there is no naturally occurring traffic. And label it something simple like East Ramps when turning off of Woodridge Crescent, with a sign pointing to the next entrance further on Woodridge called West Ramps.

You know how malls like to arrange their escalators so that people have to walk past stores to get where they're going? It's like they hired an interior mall designer to place their ramps like you'd place an escalator. "Please maximize the distance people drive in our parking structure. It will help drive sales. Somehow."
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Target never opened at Bayshore.

All the new retail in Barrhaven, Kanata and Stittsville along with the outlet mall coupled with the ongoing renovations has really hurt Bayshore. It seems to be fairing better than Place d'Orleans and St-Laurent though!
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Old Posted May 2, 2016, 11:04 PM
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You can't compare Bayshore to Rideau, it will never have that location or stature but it will still be the biggest indoor mall in the West part of town, including the Valley, for many years to come.

I agree with Marshsparrow, the Centrum and Tanger Outlet certainly take away some traffic and the ongoing renos (almost done from what I understand) don't help either. Also don't forget that online shopping has really picked up in the past 10 years or so and that could have put a dent in shopping malls' bottom line.

A bunch of stores going out of business (not the mall's fault!) like Danier, Jacob's, Le Chateau, Mexx have compounded the issues...
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Old Posted May 27, 2016, 6:35 PM
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Bayshore still seems to be doing fairly well in my opinion. Aside from the old food court the third floor has certainly filled up, granted there still isn't much reason to go up there aside from people going to Starbucks/Walmart and a few other stores. Surprised to see that Calendar Club still has their store open on the second floor. I thought that they usually closed a few months after the holidays?

I do have to question the need for more parking... the 2nd and 4th levels of the parking garage are usually empty and I don't recall having that much trouble finding parking during the holidays on either of those levels.

I didn't go to the new food court today but I remember from 2 weeks ago that South Street Burger was opening soon.
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