The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by someone123

Allocation based on ridership is a poor way of making sure that the money goes to the best projects or that it's shared somewhat evenly between provinces.

There are a few cities that have low ridership specifically because of past underinvestment in transit, and there are other cities that have higher ridership because they have more extensive systems that were previously funded much more generously by the federal government. This type of allocation just means that money goes to whoever got the most of it before, not that transit projects with the best value for dollar are funded.

It can always change for the second round, for the first round the ability to spend the money within the time frame is very important.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by someone123

Allocation based on ridership is a poor way of making sure that the money goes to the best projects or that it's shared somewhat evenly between provinces.

There are a few cities that have low ridership specifically because of past underinvestment in transit, and there are other cities that have higher ridership because they have more extensive systems that were previously funded much more generously by the federal government. This type of allocation just means that money goes to whoever got the most of it before, not that transit projects with the best value for dollar are funded.

This way holds the municipalities accountable more. If you do not invest smartly, then you do not reap the rewards.

Besides, how do you define best value?

[ssiguy]

Actually London is asking for ALL of the money from Queen's Park less the $125 the city will chip in over time.

The City only approached the federal government to make it more politically and financially palatable to Queen's Park. The reality is that the City doesn't care in the slightest who pays the other roughly 90% remaining. The City is demanding the same treatment that Hamilton and Miss/Brampton got which they should has London has higher per-capita ridership than any of those cities and higher total ridership than Hamilton or Brampton.

The City full expects 90% funding from Queen's Park and they will get it or Wynne will pay a VERY heavy political price in the next election and not just from Londoners but from all Ontarians outside the GTAH. Under the NEW infrastructure funding formula {which KWC & Ott were not part of} it would be the first major project outside the GTAH and if London doesn't get it she will be labelled {what many Ontarians already believe} the Premier of Toronto.

[matt602]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

Big big investment federally into transit. Any ideas into what projects are going to move forward now?

I have to assume Vancouver will put there's towards the Broadway line and Montreal already announced the blue line extension, but I'm stumped for other cities.

Hamilton has already asked the province for, and been denied, funds to build a new bus garage so thats probably where most of our money will go. Unfortunately since they're given out based on ridership, Hamilton is gonna get screwed out of a lot of it. We also have many service enhancements waiting for funding as the system is prepared for integration with the B-Line LRT route.

[Coldrsx]

With Ottawa offering transit cash, Edmonton's mayor looks to province for more dollars

ELISE STOLTE

Ottawa’s transit cash comes with few strings attached, meaning Edmonton could spend it on anything from upgrades to Coliseum station to electric buses to design work for more LRT, the mayor says.

“We have options, which we didn’t have before,” Mayor Don Iveson said after a conference call Tuesday with federal Infrastructure Minister Amarjeet Sohi, formerly an Edmonton councillor.

Ottawa’s $3.4-billion transit promise will be divided among municipalities based on ridership, which means roughly $139 million for Edmonton. That money can be spent on restoration, design or a different capital projects, but it needs to be matched by provincial and municipal governments.

The federal dollars can be up to 50 per cent of the total budget. Iveson is hoping the province contributes at least 40 per cent, or roughly $110 million, leaving 10 per cent, or $30 million, for the city.

The provincial budget is scheduled to be released April 14.

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-ne...mayor-looks-to-province-for-more-dollars


http://wpmedia.edmontonjournal.com

[caltrane74]

I'm doing a training program with some guys from the US, about 10 of them, and they are staying at a hotel downtown. Anyways, they're telling me how much they love the streetcars, being able to jump on and off... lol. Makes it easy to around downtown...

[GreaterMontréal]

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[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

I'm doing a training program with some guys from the US, about 10 of them, and they are staying at a hotel downtown. Anyways, they're telling me how much they love the streetcars, being able to jump on and off... lol. Makes it easy to around downtown...

You can do the same with bus, but there is something about railed transit that appeals to more.

[Darkoshvilli]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

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Is it still just one train?

[GreaterMontréal]

Is it still just one train?

Aucun bris ou défectuosité ne doit être décelé pendant environ 61 jours avant que la STM devienne officiellement propriétaire du train et que d’autres voitures puissent être livrées.

En 2016, douze autres trains Azur doivent arriver dans les garages de la STM. L’ensemble de 468 voitures qui ont été commandées doivent être livrées d’ici 2018.

http://journalmetro.com/actualites/montr...n-service-pendant-les-heures-de-pointes/

Je crois qu'il y a d'autres trains en mode essaie qui circulent dans le réseau. Pour l'instant, aucun problème depuis le 7 février. Le 8 avril marquerait le 61e jour depuis la sortie officielle le 7 février.
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[Darkoshvilli]

Ok thanks

[ssiguy]

Love those new Azur cars. they look a lot like the SkyTrain MK111.

[RueBulmer]

Nice, but I can't stop thinking of those now defunct Perette stores when I see those blue seats.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

You can do the same with bus, but there is something about railed transit that appeals to more.

Buses are cramped by comparison. I'd wager the real reason are the bygone streetcars Toronto runs.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Buses are cramped by comparison. I'd wager the real reason are the bygone streetcars Toronto runs.

Aren't the streetcars significantly thinner than buses in Toronto? Plus there's the stairs.

[caltrane74]

Well, they didn't ask me "why don't we have buses in Toronto?"

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Aren't the streetcars significantly thinner than buses in Toronto? Plus there's the stairs.

Doubt that. One advantage of rail is you can design the cab to take up the entire lane of traffic. Stairs are better than wheel wells too.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Doubt that. One advantage of rail is you can design the cab to take up the entire lane of traffic. Stairs are better than wheel wells too.

They felt very thin, though apparently both are roughly 2.5m wide.

[Trans Canada]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

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RIP this sound:

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[McC]

Originally Posted by Trans Canada

RIP this sound

not so hasty, it's the newer MR-73s that make that sound (except for a few mod'ed old MR-63s), and the MR-73s still have some service left in them.