YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 443

Klazu · #**8841** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 4:35 AM**

That's an interesting perspective to put it, excel! Pretty spectacular, indeed.

Alpine · #**8842** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 4:54 AM**

Does anyone think there will be YVR-WNZ service? Wenzhou is the entrepreneurship and private finance hub of Red China, there must be many WZ millionaires who want to do business with Canada, or buy RE in Vancouver. Plus, high speed trains toward Wenzhou have a habit of crashing.

Klazu · #**8843** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 5:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Alpine

Plus, high speed trains toward Wenzhou have a habit of crashing.

Just curious what does this mean?

nname · #**8844** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 5:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Alpine

Does anyone think there will be YVR-WNZ service?

If the Wenzhou government subsidize it, anything can happen.

Pretty much all of the routes from Chinese secondary cities are heavily subsidized by the local government. This includes YVR service to CTU, SHE, KMG, XMN, etc... I remember MU originally want to run the KMG service as KMG-HGH-YVR, but Hangzhou government only willing to pay for half of what MU asked, so they route all traffic via PVG instead...

Black Box · #**8845** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by excel

Crazy to think YVR will have more Chinese carriers than LAX, LHR, AMS, FRA, SFO and JFK.

It's good to see Vancouver becoming an important hub for flights to China. If I ever decide to go to China, and want a good deal, Vancouver is close by.

twoNeurons · #**8846** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Just curious what does this mean?

The 2011 Wenzhou HSR crash that killed over 100 people. Although not related to speed ( it wasn't going at high speeds at the time ), the incident allowed the Chinese to reduce speed limits across the board from 350km/h to 300km/h, which is where it still remains.

Side note: Some feel that this incident allowed the Chinese to reduce speeds from 350km/h to 300km/h without admitting that they shouldn't have been pushing their trains to 350km/h in the first place. Interestingly, trains are still running @ 300km/h.

After an investigation, there was also a lot of corruption uncovered in the industry at the time ( surprise, surprise ) which revealed that they had likely been running faster than they should have.

It seems they got so caught up with 'technically we CAN run trains the fastest' and didn't stop to think 'but SHOULD we'?

Then again, maybe it was worth it. The press China got for having the fastest regularly scheduled trains was golden at the time... and I'm sure many people think that they still have the fastest regularly scheduled trains now. Last I checked, that record was held by France LGV Est, Japan, Tohoku Shinkansen... and I believe Spain... all running at 320km/h.

Correction... the Airport line in Shanghai is still fastest, running at 430km/h. Always forget about that little spur.

Klazu · #**8847** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 7:27 PM**

Thanks for the background, but an individual incident is hardly the same as "having a habit".

trofirhen · #**8848** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 10:41 PM**

Getting back to YVR and aviation .........

SFUVancouver · #**8849** Posted **Mar 23, 2016, 11:26 PM**

I'm home from my Australian business trip. Johnny, thanks for your countrymen's hospitality.

I flew through SYD, CNS, and OOL during my travels. Exciting to see so many foreign widebody tails at SYD and both CNS and OOL are solid primarily regional/increasingly international airports.

Regarding my pre-trip inquiry about the Air Canada economy cabin product, yes, it turns out that the 772LR aircraft on both legs was the new HD interior product. I highly recommend against sitting anywhere in the centre of the cabin. The four-abreast centre still has the structural mounts of a three-abreast row, which means that there's a metal column in the middle of one's legroom area no matter what. The legroom of the 'F' seat is particularly egregious as the bulky in-flight entertainment (IFE) system communications box is adjacent to the seat support column. Guess in which seat I got to spend 16 hours? The seat pitch is also the bare minimum. My knees touched the back of the seat in front of me when that person reclined (as everyone does for long-haul flights) and I'm only 5'11", so good luck to you if you crack 6'. With that said, the actual seats are quite comfortable with a highly adjustable headrest. The IFE system is good, with a nice screen and simple, intuitive touch-screen controls, though the entertainment selection is quite limited compared to my long-haul flights on Qantas, BA, Cathay, Lufthansa, American, and United over the last couple years.

On my return trip I had a window seat in the back in a two-seat row (41K), where the cabin curves in, and the long-haul flight gods blessed me with an empty seat beside me. That made it a far more bearable 14+ hour trip home from Sydney. For what it's worth, this is the correct SeatGuru map for the Air Canada YVR-SYD HD interior cabin product: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air_Canada/Air_Canada_Boeing_777-200LR_77L_v3.php

The "food" on the plane left a lot to be desired, especially on the return flight. Certainly not Qantas, BA, Lufthansa, or Cathay quality, but still miles ahead of United and American with their boxed "meals".

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...in_Canada_for_the_First_Time_at_YVR.aspx

That's great news! I saw a Xiamen airlines plane in SYD on my way down and hoped that we would hear some news soon about the potential route to YVR.

Klazu · #**8850** Posted **Mar 24, 2016, 12:48 AM**

Welcome home, our own road warrior!

nname · #**8851** Posted **Mar 24, 2016, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

http://yvr.ca/en/flight-information/late...in_Canada_for_the_First_Time_at_YVR.aspx

Not sure if this pricing is attractive though

(Price in CAD)

Going the other way is a bit cheaper at $5722 rt.

excel · #**8852** Posted **Mar 24, 2016, 9:16 PM**

Oh my. How is it so expensive? I remember flying round trip to Bangkok through Narita on JAL and it was only $1200 round trip.

Hot Rod · #**8853** Posted **Mar 24, 2016, 9:50 PM**

seems to be overstated by a factor of 10.

I checked on their official website and Vancouver isn't selectable yet.

nname · #**8854** Posted **Mar 24, 2016, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod

seems to be overstated by a factor of 10.

I checked on their official website and Vancouver isn't selectable yet.

Go to the Chinese version and it is. The pricing there is slightly cheaper than the one in Google, probably off by a few dollars.

Johnny Aussie · #**8855** Posted **Mar 24, 2016, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod

seems to be overstated by a factor of 10.

I checked on their official website and Vancouver isn't selectable yet.

Yes, YVR is now selectable under "Hot Cities" - ha!

Like some new routes, when flights are first loaded they don't quite get the pricing right yet. Same thing happened when Hainan loaded PEK-YYC. Seems kind of crazy but this is not uncommon. If you wait a couple of days it will get sorted. Also expect some sort of launch special.

Johnny Aussie · #**8856** Posted **Mar 24, 2016, 10:08 PM**

After being badly damaged, it's taken to the air again.

Good story of the process here....

http://ironmaiden.com/news/article/ed-force-one-repaired

Look out for it on 9/10 April during the Iron Maiden "Book of Souls" tour visit to Vancouver. Concert is on the 10th.

moosejaw · #**8857** Posted **Mar 25, 2016, 7:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

After being badly damaged, it's taken to the air again.

Good story of the process here....

http://ironmaiden.com/news/article/ed-force-one-repaired

Look out for it on 9/10 April during the Iron Maiden "Book of Souls" tour visit to Vancouver. Concert is on the 10th.

Glad to see that
Did you know Bruce Dickinson leased the jet in Miami (i believe thought Air Atlanta), flew it back to Cardiff Wales. Loaded it up with his mates and gear and the first stop it came back to Ft Lauderdale (just 20 min north where he originally picked the plane up)

There was a guy who took the photo of it landing in Ft Lauderdale was approached by Bruce Dickinson to purchase it off of him. When Ed Force One landed everyone had pulled off the interstate to take a picture. 747s are a rare sight in FLL.

Is EF1 coming to YVR?

CareerShow · #**8858** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 9:02 AM**

Looks like from the 15 of June YVR to Beijing will be up-gauged to the HD 450 seating 777 300 ER

Hot Rod · #**8859** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 11:01 AM**

Ac?

Klazu · #**8860** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 11:27 AM**

I would think so. I don't think anyone else flies one, yet.

It's not that bad of a plane. I just embarked from one here in Toronto after a red eye flight from YVR. Now waiting to board AC941 to MIA.

Connecting in Toronto for an US-bound flight is just so cumbersome through all the checks at F terminal. They had again added a new step to complete. Luckily I was quick to embark the plane as those pre-clearances can take time. I wonder how it's in Vancouver for US connections?