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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 4:01 AM
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 5:51 AM
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^ your vid made me think of what dtla was like when I was your age, which is a perfect segue to this person's observations about the difference from when he was a youth & visited dt & what things are like there today. however, the glimpses in the vid of the huge parking lots across from disney hall are a reminder that what was a major gap in the distant past remains a major gap today. The related cos really needs to get off the dime....if the devlprs from china....responsible for big projs like metropolis or oceanwide plaza....can do it, why can't related?


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I’ve had to spend most of the last week and a half in downtown Los Angeles, hanging around the Central Library. When I was young this would have been a terribly boring location -- not the Library itself, as I’ve always been a bookworm, but the neighborhood. Now, though, I could hardly wait for breaks so I could get outside and explore Flower Street, Seventh Street, the Maguire Gardens at the west end of the library (once a parking lot), the Bunker Hill Steps, and, well, just about everything.[/B]

I even walked one of the old “pedways,” elevated sidewalks that were supposed to channel pedestrians about and keep the streets safe for cars. That hasn’t happened, of course. Fortunately, much of the area has been re-redesigned with street life in mind and walkers abound everywhere.

Homeless folk mingle peacefully with office drones, pompous managers, school tours, tradespeople, and no small number of tourists. Many times, more people in the crosswalks than on the bridges.

The Pershing Square subway stop, of course, brings hordes of human beings who then get about on their own two feet; and around the corner on Seventh is another stop where the Red and Purple subway lines join with the Blue and Expo line light rail routes. This means there are generally happy hordes of people walking…and bicycling.

Fountains, sculptures, bikes and happy smiling faces all around…and the air clean after a rain. Not your daddy’s old Downtown LA, these days. Sometimes things do get better.


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Why does DTLA's huge new Hauser Wirth & Schimmel art complex underwhelm? It's a familiar story


Hauser Wirth & Schimmel occupies an entire city block on East 3rd Street in the downtown Arts District.
(Kirk McKoy / Los Angeles Times)


Sometimes the credits tell you everything you need to know. Take the slightly unusual way Annabelle Selldorf's name appears in the materials promoting Hauser Wirth & Schimmel, the massive and much-anticipated Arts District outpost of the international gallery Hauser & Wirth, which was founded in 1992. Selldorf — born in Germany and based for more than three decades in New York, where her firm is best known for crisply remaking historic buildings for museums and other art-world clients — is listed as the project's "consulting architect."

This is closer to Selldorf Lite. Or maybe Selldorf Once Removed.

Most of the architectural decisions that have shaped the gallery, which fills an old flour mill built in phases from 1896 to 1929, were made by Creative Space, a Los Angeles firm, in close collaboration with Paul Schimmel, the talented, voluble and well-connected former Museum of Contemporary Art curator who has been the driving force behind the project. The landscape architect is Mia Lehrer.

Selldorf, for her part, helped choreograph many of the big moves in this complicated urban and architectural rehabilitation effort. Together with Schimmel she decided to carve a big public walkway through the complex from 2nd to 3rd streets. It opens in the middle onto a large courtyard.

In the final product, Selldorf's organizing ideas seem mostly intact — the spine of the internal street, the openness of the circulation, the range of gallery spaces. It is in the details — the placement of duct work, the choice of handrails and hardware, the angle at which light fixtures are attached to walls or ceilings — that the project falters a bit.

That's not to say that HW&S — at 116,000 square feet big enough to feel more like a museum than a gallery — isn't an appealing or significant addition to one of the most rapidly changing neighborhoods in Los Angeles.

Occupying nearly a full city block at the corner of 3rd and South Garey streets, making it a close neighbor of both the Southern California Institute of Architecture and Michael Maltzan's One Santa Fe apartment block, the gallery complex is especially impressive for its public-mindedness.

In the densifying heart of a city less and less defined by the deep supply of private garden space that so dramatically marked its 20th century character, the gestures that HW&S makes to its neighborhood, the room it provides for residents looking for a cup of coffee or a place to sit down and read email rather than buy a piece of art, may prove particularly meaningful.

Unlike One Santa Fe, which is packed with architectural ideas but marked by cruise-ship-like bulk, HW&S brings new energy to the area by stringing together and remaking a collection of existing buildings. It has helped keep not just the scale but the urban character of this slice of downtown intact.



Kirk McKoy / Los Angeles Times



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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 8:27 AM
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Seems to be a reoccurring theme. Every art museum/ gallery seems to underwhelm every art critic. That's what they all said about the Broad. But every time I drive by there is a long line/ crowd standing out front. Daily. Seems like these critics, are just that. Going out of their way to criticize. Come on. Nit-picking the interior finishings like hand rails? This is a private space, and from what I hear rivals the depth of most museums. Yet another cultural gem in Dtwn that others are envious of…

Like the:
MOCA
BROAD
GRAMMY MUSEUM
GEFFEN/ MOCA
JAPANESE AMERICAN MUSEUM
HW&S
THE MUSEUM AT 4th and MAIN (name?)
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DISNEY HALL
AHMONSON
DOROTHY CHANDLER
MARK TAPER
NOKIA
STAPLES
BROADWAY THEATERS

Can't get much more culture within a mile or two radius. But I'm sure we will.

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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 3:58 PM
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How's it going, I'm a recent college grad working in Development/PE in NY. Born and raised in LA, passionate about smart growth/urban planning specifically w/in the context of LA, have been coming to this forum daily for years to keep up to date on downtown while I'm not home, brother lives downtown.

Anyways, I've been looking for more info on the Amidi Group's 1027 Wilshire
http://www.ccdg-la.com/1027-wilshire-the-icon-on-wilshire

I can't find anything current, and it wasn't mentioned in the DT News development update at all. Does anyone know anything about what's going on here? The parking lot is so jarring in the context of how great the Wilshire Grand is looking on the opposite corner. It has the potential to really impact the Wilshire connection b/w downtown and city west.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 4:06 PM
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I don't think that lot has been talked about at all in at least 4-5 years or so.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 5:23 PM
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Renderings for City West's Sapphire Development

Two seven-story buidlings with 369 apartments and 22,000 sq. ft. of retail space, designed by Steinberg Architects. Developer is Jade Enterprises.

     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 6:02 PM
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^That's how a seven story shitbox should look.
     
     
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Yes, this is indeed an improvement. Note the elevation drawings that the vast majority of white and grey space facing the street are metal panels, not stucco. That in and of itself is a HUGE improvement over what we're getting elsewhere. Kudos to Steinberg for raising the bar! Let's hope others follow suit.

On a less positive note, the glass parapets are starting to rise on Metropolis Tower 2 (the 38-story condo tower), and they are a good 30% shorter than the mechanical penthouses on the top of the towers, which means those "boxes" will be very highly visible from any view that's not looking up from the street. Really piss poor execution in my opinion. Kind of shitting the bed with this value engineering from a skyline point of view.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 6:55 PM
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Yes, this is indeed an improvement. Note the elevation drawings that the vast majority of white and grey space facing the street are metal panels, not stucco. That in and of itself is a HUGE improvement over what we're getting elsewhere. Kudos to Steinberg for raising the bar! Let's hope others follow suit.

On a less positive note, the glass parapets are starting to rise on Metropolis Tower 2 (the 38-story condo tower), and they are a good 30% shorter than the mechanical penthouses on the top of the towers, which means those "boxes" will be very highly visible from any view that's not looking up from the street. Really piss poor execution in my opinion. Kind of shitting the bed with this value engineering from a skyline point of view.
Well that's extremely disappointing. Why spend so much $$$ on this development only to half 🞵🞵🞵 the tops of what will be permanent fixtures in the skyline? It's like the Watermarke Tower and their fugly podium. "Eh, that's as far as we'll go." But at least the Watermarke can be improved later.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 7:27 PM
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The Watermaker podium is the worst thing in LA.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2016, 8:50 PM
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^^^

I kinda agree. The only other thing that I think tops Watermark is the Beverly Center. I wish someone would tear that thing down. But apparently I heard its design was a necessary evil because of the active oil well/pumps under it.
     
     
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On a less positive note, the glass parapets are starting to rise on Metropolis Tower 2 (the 38-story condo tower), and they are a good 30% shorter than the mechanical penthouses on the top of the towers, which means those "boxes" will be very highly visible from any view that's not looking up from the street. Really piss poor execution in my opinion. Kind of shitting the bed with this value engineering from a skyline point of view.
I'm going to reserve judgment until the project is completed. It's difficult to tell sometimes what the finished product will be when the work is only partially completed. I expect better from Gensler and would be disappointed if they dropped the ball like that.
     
     
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Well that's extremely disappointing. Why spend so much $$$ on this development only to half 🞵🞵🞵 the tops of what will be permanent fixtures in the skyline? It's like the Watermarke Tower and their fugly podium. "Eh, that's as far as we'll go." But at least the Watermarke can be improved later.
I think the rendering was actually a clever illusion by Greenland/Gensler.

If you take a good look at the close up, it looks like the concrete core for both the hotel tower and tower R1 actually sticks out beyond the glass coverings. kinda hard to tell. But we all know how inaccurate these renderings can be.

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Larger Metropolis renderings from Curbed LA:

I think tower R1 is my least liked out of the 4.
     
     
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Oceanwide Plaza concrete foundation pour #1 scheduled for 11 p.m. tonight. Hope they are ready and it doesn't get rained out.
     
     
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I think it's funny that the wing of the 54 story is 22 stories which is taller than the 18 story hotel, lol. Wing for tower 3 is 16 stories. Close!

I think we're overreacted about the cores. They're at least trying to hide them with the glass going above the roof itself. Why they bothered to go so high with the core is beyond me. I don't think it's big enough for a helipad, right?
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I kinda agree. The only other thing that I think tops Watermark is the Beverly Center. I wish someone would tear that thing down. But apparently I heard its design was a necessary evil because of the active oil well/pumps under it.
I would put 1100 Wislhire before Beverly Center, but it is a close one.
     
     
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I would put 1100 Wislhire before Beverly Center, but it is a close one.
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Seems to be a reoccurring theme. Every art museum/ gallery seems to underwhelm every art critic. That's what they all said about the Broad. But every time I drive by there is a long line/ crowd standing out front. Daily. Seems like these critics, are just that. Going out of their way to criticize. Come on. Nit-picking the interior finishings like hand rails? This is a private space, and from what I hear rivals the depth of most museums. Yet another cultural gem in Dtwn that others are envious of…

Like the:
MOCA
BROAD
GRAMMY MUSEUM
GEFFEN/ MOCA
JAPANESE AMERICAN MUSEUM
HW&S
THE MUSEUM AT 4th and MAIN (name?)
+
DISNEY HALL
AHMONSON
DOROTHY CHANDLER
MARK TAPER
NOKIA
STAPLES
BROADWAY THEATERS

Can't get much more culture within a mile or two radius. But I'm sure we will.
For what it's worth, the article quoted was the Times' architecture critic. And that's why it was focused on the architecture of the space and not the art. The art critic also had a review of the opening exhibition, however, and he had nothing but praise for it. I'm going to go check it out on Sunday.

Here's the link for that: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-hauser-wirth-knight-review-20160310-column.html
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