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[Empire]

It would be nice to see an outdoor rink / oval built as part of the new fourplex in Dartmouth. The ice plant and Zamboni could be shared with the rinks.......

[Phalanx]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

The numbers say the oval was closed 20 days last year and 9 this year. You may not like the numbers but that does not mean they are wrong.

Then lets do the math here. The difference between last year's numbers and this year's numbers is 20350. By your reasoning, the entire difference in the figures is due to the extra 11 days it's been open this year. So... 20350/11 = 1850 people per day. Not too bad.

You may not like the numbers, but it doesn't mean they are wrong.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by Phalanx

Then lets do the math here. The difference between last year's numbers and this year's numbers is 20350. By your reasoning, the entire difference in the figures is due to the extra 11 days it's been open this year. So... 20350/11 = 1850 people per day. Not too bad.

Except that the weather overall this winter has been far more benign and hence one would think conducive to people so inclined to visit the thing. Yet they apparently have not. Add to that the fact that we spent $5 million to add a bunch of things that were supposed to add to the experience. It would appear that it had zero effect. The same people that went to the place before are still the same ones there now. A fine investment indeed.

The point of the CBC infographic, trying to delude people into believing the thing was a big success, seems to have worked on those who merely take things at face value.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Except that the weather overall this winter has been far more benign and hence one would think conducive to people so inclined to visit the thing. Yet they apparently have not. Add to that the fact that we spent $5 million to add a bunch of things that were supposed to add to the experience. It would appear that it had zero effect. The same people that went to the place before are still the same ones there now. A fine investment indeed.

You forget that these numbers are up to mid February, and last year the worst of our winter weather was from February through to the end of March, but whatever. I'm tiring of beating this poor dead horse...

The point of the CBC infographic, trying to delude people into believing the thing was a big success, seems to have worked on those who merely take things at face value.

Typical KP form, end post with an insult to get a reaction. You're becoming predictable.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Typical KP form, end post with an insult to get a reaction. You're becoming predictable.

No insult, just a commentary on the style of CBC journalism these days.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

No insult, just a commentary on the style of CBC journalism these days.

I was commenting on the "seems to have worked...", but regardless.

I agree but will expand your comment to be journalism in general. In fact, I often type it as "journalism" these days.

I've been listening to CBC radio less these days as I have found that they are tending to focus their broadcasts on 3 or 4 topics that they rotate regularly. There are a lot of significant things happening in the world yet they continue to beat their pet topics to death...

[Antigonish]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

No insult, just a commentary on the style of CBC journalism these days.

Aging is a funny thing. 6 years ago I'd disagree with Keith's views more often than not. Now it's the opposite. Don't ever change.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by Antigonish

Aging is a funny thing. 6 years ago I'd disagree with Keith's views more often than not. Now it's the opposite. Don't ever change.

"Sooner or later, they all come to me."

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

I was commenting on the "seems to have worked...", but regardless.

I agree but will expand your comment to be journalism in general. In fact, I often type it as "journalism" these days.

I've been listening to CBC radio less these days as I have found that they are tending to focus their broadcasts on 3 or 4 topics that they rotate regularly. There are a lot of significant things happening in the world yet they continue to beat their pet topics to death...

For years I was a loyal viewer of local CBC TV news at the dinner hour. I would never watch the Steve Murphy ATV/CTV production, finding it dumbed-down and sensationalist. CBC was the one place you could count on to have some sort of journalistic integrity, albeit with a left bias. But whatever.

That has all changed in the last few years. Now it is CBC that goes for the sensationalist story, beating the drum on certain issues when others rightly ignore it. We saw it last year when they created the Dal Dentistry story pretty much single-handed, and earlier with the Parsons and later the Kidd stories. This year they have been keeping up a steady drumbeat on the Syrian refugee story. Their agenda is not just on the left side of the spectrum, but has become that of the social justice crusaders. I now find myself swallowing hard and watching CTV more often than not. It is a real shame.

[Antigonish]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

For years I was a loyal viewer of local CBC TV news at the dinner hour. I would never watch the Steve Murphy ATV/CTV production, finding it dumbed-down and sensationalist. CBC was the one place you could count on to have some sort of journalistic integrity, albeit with a left bias. But whatever.

That has all changed in the last few years. Now it is CBC that goes for the sensationalist story, beating the drum on certain issues when others rightly ignore it. We saw it last year when they created the Dal Dentistry story pretty much single-handed, and earlier with the Parsons and later the Kidd stories. This year they have been keeping up a steady drumbeat on the Syrian refugee story. Their agenda is not just on the left side of the spectrum, but has become that of the social justice crusaders. I now find myself swallowing hard and watching CTV more often than not. It is a real shame.

The popular term now is "regressive left". There is hardly anywhere for a moderate to turn.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

For years I was a loyal viewer of local CBC TV news at the dinner hour. I would never watch the Steve Murphy ATV/CTV production, finding it dumbed-down and sensationalist. CBC was the one place you could count on to have some sort of journalistic integrity, albeit with a left bias. But whatever.

That has all changed in the last few years. Now it is CBC that goes for the sensationalist story, beating the drum on certain issues when others rightly ignore it. We saw it last year when they created the Dal Dentistry story pretty much single-handed, and earlier with the Parsons and later the Kidd stories. This year they have been keeping up a steady drumbeat on the Syrian refugee story. Their agenda is not just on the left side of the spectrum, but has become that of the social justice crusaders. I now find myself swallowing hard and watching CTV more often than not. It is a real shame.

I has become a sad story. I don't tend to watch the TV news as it doesn't coincide with my schedule, but with print media all but gone and radio news deteriorating, all that's left is the internet. God help us all...

[Jonovision]

The Midtown North website now has a bit more information for their upcoming session tomorrow night.

We now can see the extent of the site and it is pretty big. Almost the entire stretch along Almond with the exception of the two apartment buildings at the end and four frontages on Robie, from the corner to Mary's I believe.

[Duff]

Taken this past weekend.

[Keith P.]

The White Elephant a.k.a. The Oval has thrown in the towel for the season as of March 2nd. All the chillers and zambonis and armies of staff are unable to keep ice on the thing. What a debacle this has turned into.

[IanWatson]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

The White Elephant a.k.a. The Oval has thrown in the towel for the season as of March 2nd. All the chillers and zambonis and armies of staff are unable to keep ice on the thing. What a debacle this has turned into.

That's okay. The poor skating weather means good bike lane weather.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by IanWatson

That's okay. The poor skating weather means good bike lane weather.

I'm sure the dozen or so cycling zealots will be thrilled.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

The White Elephant a.k.a. The Oval has thrown in the towel for the season as of March 2nd. All the chillers and zambonis and armies of staff are unable to keep ice on the thing. What a debacle this has turned into.

I guess this means that it should have been built as an indoor skating oval

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

The White Elephant a.k.a. The Oval has thrown in the towel for the season as of March 2nd. All the chillers and zambonis and armies of staff are unable to keep ice on the thing. What a debacle this has turned into.

Are we still talking about this?

FWIW, don't think debacle is the proper term, as the oval has been well used and will continue to be used into the future, and has not 'ended' as such. It has simply closed for the season as it will in every spring season for years to come.

debacle ‎(plural debacles)

An event or enterprise that ends suddenly and disastrously, often with humiliating consequences.  [quotations ▼]
(ecology) A breaking up of a natural dam, usually made of ice, by a river and the ensuing rush of water.  [quotations ▼]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/debacle

That was my last swipe at the deceased horse. Enough already.

[teddifax]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Are we still talking about this?

FWIW, don't think debacle is the proper term, as the oval has been well used and will continue to be used into the future, and has not 'ended' as such. It has simply closed for the season as it will in every spring season for years to come.



https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/debacle

That was my last swipe at the deceased horse. Enough already.

I totally agree, accept that it is well used for the time it is able to be open and leave it at that!

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

FWIW, don't think debacle is the proper term, as the oval has been well used and will continue to be used into the future, and has not 'ended' as such. It has simply closed for the season as it will in every spring season for years to come.

debacle ‎(plural debacles)

An event or enterprise that ends suddenly and disastrously, often with humiliating consequences.  [quotations ▼]
(ecology) A breaking up of a natural dam, usually made of ice, by a river and the ensuing rush of water.  [quotations ▼]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/debacle

That was my last swipe at the deceased horse. Enough already.

That definition seems remarkably appropriate in this case.