PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 533

boxbot · #**10641** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

I think the possible height of each tower is going to range and depend on tenants they get. The renderings show a tower much taller than 950 feet. It's easily 1200 feet tall. I think it could be a range for each tower:

Tower 1: 900-1200 feet
Tower 2: 650-750 feet
Tower 3: 450-550 feet
Tower 4: 350-450 feet
Tower 5: 350-450 feet
Tower 6: 300-400 feet
Tower 7: 300-400 feet
Tower 8: 300-400 feet

Love you, Summers, but I don't see how you get to that conclusion based on a statement that later work calls for a mixed use tower that could be up to 950'

summersm343 · #**10642** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 6:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by boxbot

Love you, Summers, but I don't see how you get to that conclusion based on a statement that later work calls for a mixed use tower that could be up to 950'

Just because the rendering shows a tower much taller than 950 feet. Would be disappointing if it was 950 feet which is definitely hilarious because any city would be stoked as hell to be potentially getting a 900 footer.

gjrip · #**10643** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 6:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

PS - what's going on with the Firestone lot? Any idea? I know Drexel owns the lot now and planned to put a highrise here. Is this being treated as a separate project from the "Schuylkill Yard?" Would love to see something built here.

In this view, it is covered with some large structure, but I don't see such a structure in the master plan.

summersm343 · #**10644** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 6:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjrip

In this view, it is covered with some large structure, but I don't see such a structure in the master plan.

Yep, I noticed that too. Maybe Drexel is planning a tower here separate from the "Schuylkill Yards," which would be cool.

iheartphilly · #**10645** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:01 PM**

Does anyone know if the public announcements from Drexel and Brandywine were made yet? Where and what time?

gjrip · #**10646** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Yep, I noticed that too. Maybe Drexel is planning a tower here separate from the "Schuylkill Yards," which would be cool.

They're tight for undergraduate living since they're trying to boost attendance so much. Perhaps this is a residential response to the first tower (starting early 2018) at 31st and JFK said to contain academic facilities.

Knight Hospitaller · #**10647** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:02 PM**

I notice something that I think separates the actual plan from surrounding rendering "fluff." On the site plan, there is a clear dotted-line delineating the Schuylkill Yards development area. It does NOT include the Cira II site, the Firestone site, and the like. There are basically four major patches in the SY plan: (1) The block b/w the IRS building and the highline (b/w Market and Chestnut), (2) the Bulletin site and parking lot, (3) the rest of that long block between the Bulletin/highline and the Food Fair building (large building where the vestigial tail of JFK Blvd curves, and (4) the long lot between the Cira II site and 32nd street, curving along the SEPTA rail yard.

gjrip · #**10648** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly

Does anyone know if the public announcements from Drexel and Brandywine were made yet? Where and what time?

http://drexel.edu/now/archive/2016/March/Drexel-Announces-Master-Developer/

also, check Facebook. Drexel posted the article there. I'm sure that has a time stamp.

christof · #**10649** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

PS - what's going on with the Firestone lot? Any idea? I know Drexel owns the lot now and planned to put a highrise here. Is this being treated as a separate project from the "Schuylkill Yard?" Would love to see something built here.

I heard that Firestone is about to leave that spot (later this year). My understanding that the site is set to be used for a new academic building (for business school?)

donoteat · #**10650** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by christof

I heard that Firestone is about to leave that spot (later this year). My understanding that the site is set to be used for a new academic building (for business school?)

A student union building, I believe.

DrachenFire · #**10651** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjrip

Not sure I understand your idea. Drexel always uses that space for University concerts/raves/parties and intramural and club sports.

There was a long running plan to turn the Armory into an Arena/Convocation center to replace the DAC as the home of the basketball teams. War and the financial downturn put the kibosh on that. I think renewing that plan to renovate it into a smaller, intimate venue for sports, concerts, campus events and perhaps trade shows centered around an expanding on-campus student and general residential populations as well as new businesses this is supposed to bring in would be successful. Intramural and club sporting events that take place in the Armory could be shifted to the DAC.

I guess I'm letting my Blue and Gold tinted glasses cloud my reasoning. The school has made it known that they don't see any benefits.

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Originally Posted by summersm343

PS - what's going on with the Firestone lot? Any idea? I know Drexel owns the lot now and planned to put a highrise here. Is this being treated as a separate project from the "Schuylkill Yard?" Would love to see something built here.

I've heard some rumblings that the Firestone property is to become a new Student Union building at some point.

gjrip · #**10652** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by boxbot

Love you, Summers, but I don't see how you get to that conclusion based on a statement that later work calls for a mixed use tower that could be up to 950'

Keep the renderings at what's possible/hopeful, keep the official talk to "worst case scenario" because we have no idea the state of the economy in 2025. I think by saying 950 they are covering their butts if by any chance the plan downgrades significantly; expectations will be less crushed.

This rendering shows a tower that isn't 950 feet. It just isn't that short.

Using the known height of Evo, neglecting east-->west perspective changing heights in pics, the tallest tower is roughly 3 Evos. At roughly 400', we can conclusively say that the rendering below shows a ~1200' tower.

summersm343 · #**10653** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by donoteat

A student union building, I believe.

Will it be a highrise?

summersm343 · #**10654** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

I notice something that I think separates the actual plan from surrounding rendering "fluff." On the site plan, there is a clear dotted-line delineating the Schuylkill Yards development area. It does NOT include the Cira II site, the Firestone site, and the like. There are basically four major patches in the SY plan" (1) The block b/w the IRS building and the highline (b/w Market and Chestnut), (2) the Bulletin site and parking lot, (3) the rest of that long block behind the Bulletin and highline and the Food Fair building, and (4) the long lot between the Cira II site and 32nd street, curving along the SEPTA rail yard.

You're totally right.. the outline doesn't include Cira II or Firestone lot which is huge and shows that Cira II and another tower on the Firestone lot are eventually in play.

summersm343 · #**10655** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:17 PM**

New thread for Schuylkill Yards

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=221324

donoteat · #**10656** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Will it be a highrise?

No idea. Might get a chance to ask next Friday...

summersm343 · #**10657** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by donoteat

No idea. Might get a chance to ask next Friday...

Yes!!! Figure out for us Donoteat!!

summersm343 · #**10658** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjrip

Keep the renderings at what's possible/hopeful, keep the official talk to "worst case scenario" because we have no idea the state of the economy in 2025. I think by saying 950 they are covering their butts if by any chance the plan downgrades significantly; expectations will be less crushed.

This rendering shows a tower that isn't 950 feet. It just isn't that short.

Using the known height of Evo, neglecting east-->west perspective changing heights in pics, the tallest tower is roughly 3 Evos. At roughly 400', we can conclusively say that the rendering below shows a ~1200' tower.

Yep, I agree. That was my thinking exactly.

Knight Hospitaller · #**10659** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 7:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

New thread for Schuylkill Yards

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=221324

Please add to the forum list of threads when you have the time.

br323206 · #**10660** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 8:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjrip

Keep the renderings at what's possible/hopeful, keep the official talk to "worst case scenario" because we have no idea the state of the economy in 2025. I think by saying 950 they are covering their butts if by any chance the plan downgrades significantly; expectations will be less crushed.

This rendering shows a tower that isn't 950 feet. It just isn't that short.

Using the known height of Evo, neglecting east-->west perspective changing heights in pics, the tallest tower is roughly 3 Evos. At roughly 400', we can conclusively say that the rendering below shows a ~1200' tower.

adjective
1. serving to settle or decide a question; decisive; convincing:
conclusive evidence.

A reasonable extrapolation based on the rendering, but nothing conclusive about it. The burden of proof is a little higher for conclusive.