PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 530

RonnieStevens · #**10581** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 3:48 PM**

On a serious note this looks amazing. I hope they start with the supertall as that will anchor this zone for all development. Also I hope this pushes CC to get their act together and fill in all the lots from 19th to the river.

summersm343 · #**10582** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 3:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjrip

Hey guys and gals. New member, but lurker for years. Currently a student at Drexel and this new rendering of the innovation neighborhood has prompted me to finally make an account.

Looking at that rendering, I think we now know why Brandywine has been unloading so much property. This appears to be one for the long haul. That one tower is certainly a supertall. Compared to the 736' FMC (though that doesn't appear to be an up-to-date FMC rendering, what with the top section seeming much shorter than usual), I'd guess it's a bit over 1K. If that becomes reality, I just may shed a tear or two.

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First time poster here (long time lurker) and this would be HUGE. I've been trolling Brandywine's Instagram account for months hinting at what's next. Glad to see them really investing so much in Philly

Welcome, both of you

Flyers2001 · #**10583** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 3:54 PM**

I know I am living in a fantasy world, but can you imagine how awesome the skyline would be with a supertall at 8th, 19th and 35th Street.

Plokoon11 · #**10584** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 3:58 PM**

Are you guys sure you didn't mistake the news as a miami development? ��

cafeguy · #**10585** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:02 PM**

Lets not forget that Drexel proposed a skyscraper in 2007 as well. My guess is that the area between 30th st station and drexel will be transformed for sure...but I don't believe they will build any supertalls or skyscrapers anytime soon. We will most likely see buildings as massive as Lebow or Macalister with the Shake Shack...which will be great, but not as magnificent as all these lovely tall buildings. http://planphilly.com/articles/2009/04/08/8594

Knight Hospitaller · #**10586** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cro Burnham

I will only support it if Brandywine guarantees that there will be a Wendy's and a wig shop.

Where am I going to cash my checks?

summersm343 · #**10587** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:08 PM**

Damn, what's up with all of the Debby-downers.

1. The original master-plan didn't have John Fry who gets shit done.
2. The original master-plan didn't have Brandywine who gets shit done.

New2Fishtown · #**10588** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:21 PM**

No doubt that shit's going to get done, but I don't think anyone should interpret this rendering as an accurate representation of what's being built. Drexel and Brandywine know that they want to maximize the zoning on the parcels and then maximize the value of the sites, but how that gets distributed across 14 acres and in what mix of uses and building types is going to be dictated by market swings over the next 10-30 years, and has not been thought about in any specific way at this point. The reason the supertall seems to almost beam up and blend into the sky is that it's intended to inspire and help to sell the location to would-be tenants. The number of buildings, their heights, what gets built in what order, and who takes space are all very much in play.

summersm343 · #**10589** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:24 PM**

Another image. Can see here that it is indeed 8 buildings. Can also see from the rendering that the Cira II plot has no building on it

summersm343 · #**10590** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by New2Fishtown

No doubt that shit's going to get done, but I don't think anyone should interpret this rendering as an accurate representation of what's being built. Drexel and Brandywine know that they want to maximize the zoning on the parcels and then maximize the value of the sites, but how that gets distributed across 14 acres and in what mix of uses and building types is going to be dictated by market swings over the next 10-30 years, and has not been thought about in any specific way at this point. The reason the supertall seems to almost beam up and blend into the sky is that it's intended to inspire and help to sell the location to would-be tenants. The number of buildings, their heights, what gets built in what order, and who takes space are all very much in play.

Well yeah of course, that's pretty much a given that this is more of a master plan, but it's still very cool that this is what the general idea for the area is

Schmidt519 · #**10591** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Boku

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but it clearly states, and even if it didn't it should be obvious, that this is to be built over several decades...and seeing how fragile a plan to build just one building can be (I see you SLS and 1911 Walnut), what are the odds that all of this comes to fruition?

Sure the final result may not look exactly as in the renderings. Although the progress that has been made on University City over the last 5-10 years is substantial. The area has completely changed in only the last 10 years. It has consistently/steadily changed over that time.

They have spent considerable amount of time and $$ developing and researching the feasibility of this plan(over 2 years in the making on this feasibility study). The players involved are serious about turning this area into a nationally recognized tech hub area. I'm really optimistic that we will see some impressive new building rise in the next 10 years. Will it take time? yes, but there is a vision and great minds thinking about how to position Philadelphia on the national stage which is a great thing for the area. Something we do not see often is the vision and masterplan.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53...2015_OpenHouse_InformationBoards_web.pdf

gjrip · #**10592** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Another image. Can see here that it is indeed 8 buildings. Can also see from the rendering that the Cira II plot has no building on it

That looks simply magnificent.

Goodbye Caneris and UCross? Can't say we'd miss ya.

Also, with the new rendering I'm not 100% sure if that's a supertall. Maybe 900-1000ft -ish, but still absolutely marvelous.

summersm343 · #**10593** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjrip

That looks simply magnificent.

Goodbye Caneris and UCross? Can't say we'd miss ya.

Also, with the new rendering I'm not 100% sure if that's a supertall. Maybe 900-1000ft -ish, but still absolutely marvelous.

No UCross and Caneris will stay I believe. The tallest is definitely over 1,000 ft.

boxbot · #**10594** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:33 PM**

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The new and improved Drexel Shaft!

They're not really calling it that, right? Because they shouldn't call it that.

donoteat · #**10595** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjrip

That looks simply magnificent.

Goodbye Caneris and UCross? Can't say we'd miss ya.

Also, with the new rendering I'm not 100% sure if that's a supertall. Maybe 900-1000ft -ish, but still absolutely marvelous.

Looks to be just some new glass building in front - Caneris (and it's parking lot

) is still there, and so is University Crossings (a nice building with cool history and on the NRHS, so I doubt they'd demo it)

gjrip · #**10596** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:35 PM**

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No UCross and Caneris will stay I believe. The tallest is definitely over 1,000 ft.

The new building to the right (and west a bit) of the supertall is definitely exactly where UCross is, no?. Hilariously, it appears that damn Firestone tire could still fit LOL.

edit: nevermind, I see Caneris and where UCross would be now.

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Originally Posted by donoteat

Looks to be just some new glass building in front - Caneris (and it's parking lot

) is still there, and so is University Crossings (a nice building with cool history and on the NRHS, so I doubt they'd demo it)

The parking lot would probably better serve as a parking garage and NEW TRAIN STATION serving a couple of the train lines called "John Fry Station" lol (for the record, I am aware this would further complicate the RR schedule and wouldn't be smart. Let me dream). 30th is father from campus than you can tell! But I'm lazy so...

As far as UCross is concerned, I really do love the building except for the southern facade.

boxbot · #**10597** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:37 PM**

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Where am I going to cash my checks?

Next to the Dollar Store flagship.

Knight Hospitaller · #**10598** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Damn, what's up with all of the Debby-downers.

1. The original master-plan didn't have John Fry who gets shit done.
2. The original master-plan didn't have Brandywine who gets shit done.

Yeah. It's not a joint venture of Blatstein-PMC.

boxbot · #**10599** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 4:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Well yeah of course, that's pretty much a given that this is more of a master plan, but it's still very cool that this is what the general idea for the area is

And who knows...in 20 or 30 years, the state might have even passed a budget.

cafeguy · #**10600** Posted **Mar 2, 2016, 5:02 PM**

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Damn, what's up with all of the Debby-downers.

1. The original master-plan didn't have John Fry who gets shit done.
2. The original master-plan didn't have Brandywine who gets shit done.

Master plans are awesome and fun, but this isnt a master plan along with a proposal. Its just a master plan.

Chop was an awesome announcement because it was a master plan released with a phase 1 project.

This is a glorious master plan released with "We'll replace a parking lot with a nice park and renovate the current 3-4 story tall building". Unless they announce at the press conference today that they have legit plans for the first of many buildings, all it is is a more hopeful version of River City. I'm happy to see it and its fun, but its I'm not seeing an announced project here...just an announcement that there will eventually be an announced project...which I have absolutely no idea when it will come. BUT, you are much more experienced with these things, so I defer to you on when we might see the first building start that would be on par with even the cira center or Evo (which are apparently the smaller of all these buildings).