ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[GTdan]

Originally Posted by PremierAtlanta

Is this for the Medical Building proposal? The one with the very unflattering base.

Yes, it's the same site. The permit states 'Vertical Demo only of one story brick building (slab to remain)', so not too sure when additional permits will be filed for the actual land development.

This rendering is pretty old, so hopefully design improvements have been made.

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by PremierAtlanta

Is this for the Medical Building proposal? The one with the very unflattering base.

I was kind of hoping the Medical building plans had fallen off. I'm all for more development, but I really did not like that proposal one bit. There's not even retail with it...

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by GTdan

Juniper & 5th filed for their land development permit..

Woohooo! Movement on one of my favorite proposals! Once this is developed, the east side of Juniper will be nearly seamlessly developed without surface parking between North Ave. and 14th, other than one lot on the corner of 4th! That is huge!

I'd love to see more developments similar to this, 905 Juniper, and The Dakota along the EST, albeit with a bit more retail. Brick developments mimicking the historical homes would also be lovely.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

I was kind of hoping the Medical building plans had fallen off. I'm all for more development, but I really did not like that proposal one bit. There's not even retail with it...

My related concern is that a few blocks will be a ginormous conglomeration of dead space thanks to huge parking decks that don't engage pedestrian activity. Whole Foods will be surrounded by a sea of parking decks.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

http://airport.blog.ajc.com/2016/02/29/hartsfield-jackson-reveals-new-renderings-of-terminal-hotel/

[jpk1292000]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

My related concern is that a few blocks will be a ginormous conglomeration of dead space thanks to huge parking decks that don't engage pedestrian activity. Whole Foods will be surrounded by a sea of parking decks.

Blah. Don't like this proposal at all. A critical location in Midtown to be filled with a bunch of parking decks.

[BunkyWay]

It's not feasible for every construction project to have street-level retail. People suggesting otherwise have no understanding of something called "market forces."

Would the building take up the reminder of the block that is not occupied by SkyHouse?

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

It's not feasible for every construction project to have street-level retail. People suggesting otherwise have no understanding of something called "market forces."

Would the building take up the reminder of the block that is not occupied by SkyHouse?

I'm of the opinion that all new buildings in the Midtown submarket should at least have one retail streetfront. At least, especially for the projected densities that Midtown will eventually have.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by BunkyWay

Would the building take up the reminder of the block that is not occupied by SkyHouse?

Looks to be the remainder of the block including abutting Spring Street. To me, that's way too much negative impact on space for a parking garage in this part of town and deserves more scrutiny. I don't like that other developments have set precedent, we need better consideration of arguably our hottest market and most valuable land in the city.

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

I'm of the opinion that all new buildings in the Midtown submarket should at least have one retail streetfront. At least, especially for the projected densities that Midtown will eventually have.

Midtown Alliance has worked to establish "storefront corridors" in Midtown that include 17th, 14th, 10th, 5th, North, Peachtree, Crescent, and a handful of others that fit the need for retail at the street.

But the requirements for all buildings to have one retail streetfront isn't feasible and warranted. Perhaps "active use" is what you meant in lieu of retail streetfront? - which is already codified by the SPI 16 and 17 Development Design Guidelines.

That being said it's unfortunate they didn't address the Medical Office Building prototypes in the zoning long before a project like this was coming along because it's probably overparked to some extent. The argument is that most of the sick/ill patients going to a medical office building probably shouldn't be riding transit regardless. The introduction of a valet service could help to curtail parking problems in a more dense area but evena recent MOB in an urban Seattle neighborhood have significantly large parking decks that were necessary just because of the building use.

It's unfortunate that for most projects in this city underground parking is too cost-prohibitive because of the shallow bedrock in most areas.

Slightly dated guidelines here:

http://www.midtownatl.com/_files/docs/development_guide1.pdf

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Land Development Permit filed today for this development in Buckhead by Related Group

Also a land development permit has been filed for 1034 Howell Mill Road for a mixed use development in the old Atlanta Builders Supply location.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

Midtown Alliance has worked to establish "storefront corridors" in Midtown that include 17th, 14th, 10th, 5th, North, Peachtree, Crescent, and a handful of others that fit the need for retail at the street.

This is good info that I was not aware of, so thank you for sharing! Although I believe a second parallel street to Peachtree is likely warranted instead of snippets of Cypress and Crescent. Why not Spring Street? Also, it's great to say they are storefront corridors, but here's a quick review:

• 17th Street is four blocks without much pedestrian activity or development movement.
• 14th Street has a decent amount of retail options and more coming.
• 10th Street offers some retail, but the government buildings, historical homes, and even the recently developed hotels do not/likely will not have retail.
• 5th St: For as much storefront use this street has, there will be plenty of void as well.
• North Ave is essentially void of retail for most of Midtown.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Also a land development permit has been filed for 1034 Howell Mill Road for a mixed use development in the old Atlanta Builders Supply location.

This peaks my interest. Any details regarding the permit other than mixed use?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

This peaks my interest. Any details regarding the permit other than mixed use?

NEW MIXED USE SITEWORK
LAND DISTURBANCE AND SITE WORK TO CONSTRUCT A MIXED-USE BUILDING. NEW STORM SYSTEM, GRADE FOR PARKING AND UTILITIES TO SERVE THE PROPOSED FACILITIES

And also it will be a 374,610 sq. ft. building.
And the permit was filed by a representative of this organization:
http://www.eberly.net/portfolio/ (they have lots of recent buildings in their portfolio)

edit: They also filed a SAP/SPI [in October last year] which gives better details

New construction of 406 residential apartment units in a 8-story structure within 16,000 square feet

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

And also it will be a 374,610 sq. ft. building.
And the permit was filed by a representative of this organization:
http://www.eberly.net/portfolio/ (they have lots of recent buildings in their portfolio)

Also based off Property shark: http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/34125064/1034-Howell-Mill-Rd-NW-Atlanta-GA-30318/
The property is only 0.683 acres. If that is still accurate this could be a 12-13 story building.

Thank yoU! Atlanta development map has the following info, which I seemed to forget:

The Allen Morris Co. is planning a mixed-use project with about 380 high-end apartments and roughly 15,000 square feet of retail space.
The project would be built on nearly three acres bounded by Howell Mill Road, Brady Avenue and 11th Street. The site today is a mix of industrial shops such as Bavarian Body Works, Atlanta Safety Brake Service Inc. and Atlanta Salvage Outlet.
One relic of the Westside’s blue-collar past will remain - Northside Tavern.

Would be great if this wasn't a megablock project... but considering there isn't a N/S road north of south of the parcel, I doubt they put one in

[scania]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Land Development Permit filed today for this development in Buckhead by Related Group

Also a land development permit has been filed for 1034 Howell Mill Road for a mixed use development in the old Atlanta Builders Supply location.

Nice looking tower.

[Ant131531]

I wonder how many apartment units have been filed for permits so far this year? Seems like it's been a ton. At least 2500-3000 units so far? More exciting times are coming.

Still wondering when we'll get news on the Philips Plaza redevelopment AND the Underground project. I want to see Downtown go bonkers over these next 3-4 years.

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

This is good info that I was not aware of, so thank you for sharing! Although I believe a second parallel street to Peachtree is likely warranted instead of snippets of Cypress and Crescent. Why not Spring Street? Also, it's great to say they are storefront corridors, but here's a quick review:

• 17th Street is four blocks without much pedestrian activity or development movement.
• 14th Street has a decent amount of retail options and more coming.
• 10th Street offers some retail, but the government buildings, historical homes, and even the recently developed hotels do not/likely will not have retail.
• 5th St: For as much storefront use this street has, there will be plenty of void as well.
• North Ave is essentially void of retail for most of Midtown.

That was the plan in 2008 but that plan is constantly being updated as realities change. In my opinion it is more important to demonstrate to developers/architects how to do the street level whether it has retail or not. Much of the new stuff in Midtown that does have retail is cold, bland and out of scale. You mentioned earlier that Atlantic Station was too cheesy, yet it is one of the few places in the city that is human-scaled and inviting at the street level.

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by Martinman

That was the plan in 2008 but that plan is constantly being updated as realities change. In my opinion it is more important to demonstrate to developers/architects how to do the street level whether it has retail or not. Much of the new stuff in Midtown that does have retail is cold, bland and out of scale. You mentioned earlier that Atlantic Station was too cheesy, yet it is one of the few places in the city that is human-scaled and inviting at the street level.

I still think Inman Quarter has some of the best street facing retail in the new developments yet, especially along Highland.

782 Peachtree I think is going to have better streetfront retail than most think(It's an underrated project).

The jury is still out on Alta Midtown and whether or not the retail design is great or not.

If Eviva gets built, it will have great streetfront retail along with Hanover at 7th so in all honesty, the projects are generally getting better at streetfront retail.

[atlwarrior]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Land Development Permit filed today for this development in Buckhead by Related Group

Also a land development permit has been filed for 1034 Howell Mill Road for a mixed use development in the old Atlanta Builders Supply location.

Thats a beauty, but traffic is atrocious on Howell Mill.