CF Pacific Centre Developments - Page 123

Metro-One · #**2441** Posted **Jan 26, 2016, 6:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by csbvan

Except that it was Elizabeth Ball, an NPA councillor who proposed the light pollution bylaw. But I forget, this is SSP Vancouver where facts never get in the way of hyperbolic, shouty Vision bashing.

I don't care who did it, the point still remains that the city should be imbracing this important aspect of a strong urban realm more, focussing on a few key locations / towers.

csbvan · #**2442** Posted **Jan 26, 2016, 6:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

I don't care who did it, the point still remains that the city should be imbracing this important aspect of a strong urban realm more, focussing on a few key locations / towers.

I don't disagree.

LeftCoaster · #**2443** Posted **Jan 26, 2016, 8:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

I've always said Vision's urban philosophy is for the birds.

I am in Toronto right now where things couldn't be more different; the city is lit up like a Christmas tree. Sad to see the lights of civilization going out in Vancouver.

Toronto actually has a huge migratory bird issue and policies as well. You're just here in the dead of winter so it's not a problem.

http://www.flap.org/lights.php

Including lights out programs:
https://www1.toronto.ca/City%20Of%20Toronto/City%20Planning/migratory_birds_15aug09.pdf

Vancouver has more of a year round issue with birds due to its temperate climate and more full time resident birds.

officedweller · #**2444** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 12:24 AM**

Looks like they're having problems with the raised paving stones/tiles again:

https://twitter.com/GranvilleStreet

nickbeaulieu · #**2445** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 12:40 AM**

that's embarrassing.

jollyburger · #**2446** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 1:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by nickbeaulieu

that's embarrassing.

(Looking at old photos) What's the purpose of those metal things sitting under the pavers?

jlousa · #**2447** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 2:53 AM**

Most likely spacers/interlocks to hold the stones in and up allowing for drainage.

nickbeaulieu · #**2448** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 4:02 PM**

interesting, the granville street twitter account calls it "upgrades"

LeftCoaster · #**2449** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 6:16 PM**

Haha yep it's being upgraded to a system that doesn't buckle and leak anymore!

It has sure been a frustrating piece of this project, but hopefully this last round of fixes solves the problem.

mcminsen · #**2450** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 6:47 PM**

Here are a couple of pics I took last year.

April 4 '15, my pic

June 10 '15, my pic

officedweller · #**2451** Posted **Feb 16, 2016, 9:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by nickbeaulieu

interesting, the granville street twitter account calls it "upgrades"

Yeah, I read that as "fixes".

mcminsen · #**2452** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 2:12 AM**

Some pics from today.

Feb.16 '16, my pics

Jebby · #**2453** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 2:30 AM**

What is the point of having them elevated like that?

s211 · #**2454** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

What is the point of having them elevated like that?

I'm guessing they were chasing LEED points?

nickbeaulieu · #**2455** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 4:33 PM**

seems kind of ridiculous to me.

Jebby · #**2456** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

I'm guessing they were chasing LEED points?

Runoff water management?

Vin · #**2457** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 4:59 PM**

I wonder what causes those concrete slabs to crack like that? Aren't they designed to withstand normal human loads? Could it be skateboarders? Can't think of any other reasons.

Vin · #**2458** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 4:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

Runoff water management?

Yup, reducing direct storm water discharge into the mains I suppose. This kind of design also prevents pooling of water on the plaza.

Jebby · #**2459** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

I wonder what causes those concrete slabs to crack like that? Aren't they designed to withstand normal human loads? Could it be skateboarders? Can't think of any other reasons.

Manufacturing defect, most likely. I can't image the force of a skateboarder being significantly more than someone walking.

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Originally Posted by Vin

Yup, reducing direct storm water discharge into the mains I suppose. This kind of design also prevents pooling of water on the plaza.

I'm sure that easier ways to do that, such as drains along the edges and one in the middle...?

Vin · #**2460** Posted **Feb 17, 2016, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

I'm sure that easier ways to do that, such as drains along the edges and one in the middle...?

Sure, that would help drain water, but wouldn't help in water retention, unless those pipes are really huge, which is not practical since they wouldn't fit the tight space above the concrete slab below.

To chase after LEED points, designers must only let a smaller percentage of water to be discharged into the main storm system immediately after heavy precipitation. The space below those concrete paver slabs act as some sort of storage I think, and with the help of some outlet structure, regulates how much flow enters the storm system over time.