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Old Posted Feb 13, 2016, 6:49 PM
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Hey, look, NIMBYs being morons somewhere other than Denver:
http://gizmodo.com/hoboken-residents-are-fighting-a-seawall-that-would-pro-1758618928

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“You’re going to ruin the character of the neighborhood,” one woman said.
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Do they not understand that the seawall will not only preserve the character of a neighborhood, it will preserve the entire neighborhood itself?
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Old Posted Feb 13, 2016, 7:28 PM
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Meanwhile, we all subsidize their flood insurance and emergency response costs. Really, some people deserve to be left to die.
     
     
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Denver Urban Review has a 7 story apt project for a surface lot at 14th and Speer (322 apts on 5 floors atop 2 stories of parking). I would have posted the link but dog chewed up the mouse...
     
     
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Denver Urban Review has a 7 story apt project for a surface lot at 14th and Speer (322 apts on 5 floors atop 2 stories of parking). I would have posted the link but dog chewed up the mouse...
Here you go:

http://denverurbanreview.com/2016/02/3996/
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2016, 1:43 AM
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Very nice project. No Brown!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2016, 2:48 AM
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No non-fossil-fuel based materials either. Yay for Denver, the plastic city!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2016, 4:41 AM
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No non-fossil-fuel based materials either. Yay for Denver, the plastic city!
Look again. The bottom two floors and the entire right side appear to be brick.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2016, 9:08 AM
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Look again. The bottom two floors and the entire right side appear to be brick.
I think that black brick anchors the mass well and does not hark to the skid mark colouring that distinguishes most of our buildings. I think that this is a great looking development and will stretch downtown further in this direction.

Have you seen how the electronics industry are now making a virtue out of plastic after rebranding it polycarbonate.

Anyway, must get back to the telethon raising money for Bunt's drown-a-NIMBY charity. Please note; some of us living downtown love urban density, are willing every new development on, detest surface parking even though I will have new developments either side of me this year. Bring it on. Urban centres need people, need buzz and excitement. Highlands was a shocking example to me how weak the statutory building rights are.

And finally, after reading the comments about parking ratios this week I am reminded of the plans for the 63 floor Helter Skelter building in the City of London, its design called for 4 parking spaces, and they were all disabled

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Old Posted Feb 14, 2016, 5:34 PM
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Anybody who spells urban center "urban centre" isn't likely your run of mill Denverite.

I saw it was brick. It's still atrocious and looks like every other sloppily done 5-8 story apartment nightmare built around here in the last five years. I support the density - I still also public executions of all architects until they figure out how to design human habitation that isn't just plain ugly.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2016, 6:40 PM
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Seems short. I'd rather see 13-18 stories along Speer.

Never mind it is in the view plane of the Capitol. Stupid rule.
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Population wise, Denver is the largest state Capitol isn't it?
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Anybody who spells urban center "urban centre" isn't likely your run of mill Denverite.

I saw it was brick. It's still atrocious and looks like every other sloppily done 5-8 story apartment nightmare built around here in the last five years. I support the density - I still also public executions of all architects until they figure out how to design human habitation that isn't just plain ugly.
Guilty as charged, but remember our general elections last only six weeks and the total spend for all parties is less then Jeb! spent on media buying in one primary.

There are a couple of separate issues, one being sloppy construction and the other is designing like you give a damn. Even in my house I am horrified by the poor quality of construction that someone signed off, and by appliances with a five year life expectancy and 2 out of 3 a/c units have failed within ten years and the engineer being surprised how long they lasted. Clearly this is just a cost of construction issue bumping up against the low expectations of US homeowners.

I have been very critical of so much of the low rise construction around Union Station with its timid and confusing design language. The building at 14th and Speer has much better flow, not relying on a blue metal panel to distract a clumsy design. It flows well around its space and is light and airy in what is a gloomy corner on a busy road.

As you point out my frame of reference is different not having grown up in the US, but I do not know of anywhere outside of China where there is so much building, repairing and reclaiming a city. I just don't think that we can wish wonderful inspiring buildings into existence; success will breed success and perhaps with it better construction values and more dramatic designs. And this is not one rogue architect responsible for a homogeneity of pap; thus one must conclude that they are providing the product that they are being paid for. I have given up hoping be overwhelmed by residential design downtown, but it often seems that even whelmed is too much to hope for. The clean lines of 14th and Speer moved the needle beyond whelmed for me.

Finally, let's not put artificial height limits on buildings without very good reason. Why stop a really tall building next to six lanes of traffic, what view plane are you respecting.
     
     
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Population wise, Denver is the largest state Capitol isn't it?
Off the top of my head I believe Austin and Boston are larger.
     
     
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Phoenix, Indy, Austin, and Columbus are all more populated. Denver passed Boston in pop over the last couple years.
     
     
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As far as incorporated cities go, Denver is 5th following Phoenix (1st), Indianapolis, Austin, and Columbus.

But incorporated cities are meaningless, so let's measure something actually based on built environment rather than arbitrary political boundaries, and see how it ranks according to urbanized areas. On that much more valid and meaningful list, Denver is also 5th, but the 4 above it are totally different: Atlanta (1st), Boston, Phoenix, and Minneapolis-Saint Paul.
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No non-fossil-fuel based materials either. Yay for Denver, the plastic city!
Not too sure what you're referring to. The building is mostly brick with most likely metal panels on the white section. What is a fossil-fuel based building material anyway - vinyl siding?
     
     
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Anybody who spells urban center "urban centre" isn't likely your run of mill Denverite.

I saw it was brick. It's still atrocious and looks like every other sloppily done 5-8 story apartment nightmare built around here in the last five years. I support the density - I still also public executions of all architects until they figure out how to design human habitation that isn't just plain ugly.
Very nice project. No Brown!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2016, 3:21 PM
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Very nice project. No Brown!
Looks very similar to the project further up Speer (Speer/Downing?), which is a good thing.
     
     
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Does anyone have an update on the Alexan Uptown? That has to be almost done right?
Here are some pictures...

Uptown: Alexan Uptown Update #3





Also... Once again, infill gets a bad name on Streetsblog:

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Old Posted Feb 15, 2016, 5:40 PM
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Here are some pictures...

Also... Once again, infill gets a bad name on Streetsblog:
Can you request that this hack to stop editorializing your hyperlink headlines? It's like the National Review being hyperlinked by Stormfront. Surely Denver Streetsblog isn't a huge web traffic generator for DenverInfill.

Oh, and it's nice to see Prescient's steel framing system popping up more and more. It's well-suited for these box projects and psychologically there's something about 7-story steel frame versus a 7-story wood-frame that makes people think "better quality".
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