Metro Vancouver Bike & Pedestrian Discussion - Page 190

officedweller · #**3781** Posted **Dec 30, 2015, 7:37 AM**

Poking around the Vancouver Archives - I wonder what the background for this 1960 pedestrianization plan might have been?

Could be that some of it was realized (underground) with Pacific Centre (?)

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/figure-15-circulation-pattern-for-pedestrians

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploa...c140-418e-8c6b-3719398f3e66-LEG37.19.jpg

Klazu · #**3782** Posted **Dec 30, 2015, 11:04 AM**

Wow, that's extensive. What's interesting is how the plan is for Downtown east area, which today is not the most busiest of areas.

officedweller · #**3783** Posted **Dec 30, 2015, 6:19 PM**

The eastside location shown as pedestrianized includes Hastings and Abbott in front of Woodwards Department Store. That stretch of Hastings also includes the Army & Navy Department Store and was, at the time, very much a "high street" for retail.

At the time, too, there was to be a "Civic Precinct" around Victory Square, but Vancouver Community College was built there instead.

tybuilding · #**3784** Posted **Jan 1, 2016, 7:22 AM**

Surrey's latest addition to the greenway network: Surrey Lake Greenway between 140 Street and 144 Street near Bear Creek

tybuilding · #**3785** Posted **Jan 1, 2016, 7:34 AM**

Surrey opened the latest addition to the greenway network: Surrey Lake Greenway between 140 Street and 144 Street near Bear Creek Park

Large Cat · #**3786** Posted **Jan 2, 2016, 2:13 AM**

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Surrey opened the latest addition to the greenway network: Surrey Lake Greenway between 140 Street and 144 Street near Bear Creek Park

Fantastic!! Where did you find this information though? I love reading the planning documents on Surrey's website, but they don't seem to offer any news updates on projects like this (same in Burnaby!). I've always found out about new trails, etc by happening across them. Let me know if you have a source.

tybuilding · #**3787** Posted **Jan 6, 2016, 10:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Large Cat

Fantastic!! Where did you find this information though? I love reading the planning documents on Surrey's website, but they don't seem to offer any news updates on projects like this (same in Burnaby!). I've always found out about new trails, etc by happening across them. Let me know if you have a source.

The project website is http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/10839.aspx I rode this trail on Christmas Day

whatnext · #**3788** Posted **Jan 8, 2016, 7:26 PM**

Wow, talk about a tragic freak accident. I wonder if the rider would have survived if he was wearing a helmet:

Vancouver police are searching for a man believed to be connected to a bizarre incident in which a 45-year-old cyclist died after being struck by a heavy object flung from a garbage bin.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/vancouver+cy...spital/11636287/story.html#ixzz3wgOF0Rfc

Klazu · #**3789** Posted **Jan 8, 2016, 8:40 PM**

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I wonder if the rider would have survived if he was wearing a helmet.

I would think so. I always amazes me how many people still risk their life by riding a bike without a helmet. One of the cheapest life insurances out there.

I hope they catch the person, although it sounds like a tragic accident.

Large Cat · #**3790** Posted **Jan 26, 2016, 7:33 AM**

Listen up, folks. There's news. I just discovered today that Translink has updated their regional cycling map for the first time in almost 4 years, to absolutely no fanfare. The PDFs were simply swapped out with new ones in December on the cycling maps page. Check it out! The changes might look subtle at first, but a lot of stuff has been added in almost every municipality. The only thing I noticed they missed is the multi use path on Rumble in Burnaby, but that was literally only finished in December.

aberdeen5698 · #**3791** Posted **Jan 26, 2016, 3:09 PM**

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I just discovered today that Translink has updated their regional cycling map...

Terrific, I've been wondering when they'd get around to updating it. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

Jebby · #**3792** Posted **Feb 2, 2016, 9:08 PM**

Why doesn't Vancouver have lane separators like this for bike lanes, especially on busier streets and downtown? I've only ever seen properly segregated bike lanes on Dunsmuir.

IMG-20160130-WA0107 by David Figueroa, on Flickr

btw, that's in Mexico City.

Klazu · #**3793** Posted **Feb 2, 2016, 9:27 PM**

What's the benefit of such small barriers? A runaway car will easily cross those, but it does prevent parking on bike lanes (which really isn't any problem in Vancouver).

Really safe separated bike lanes are like Dunmuir, Hornby and Burrard Bridge, to name a few.

WarrenC12 · #**3794** Posted **Feb 2, 2016, 9:31 PM**

I really like the design on Richards whereby parked cars separate cyclists from traffic. Even if the cars aren't there, you've still got a full lane width of space. There's nothing worse than feeling squeezed between parked cars (possible dooring) and moving traffic on a ~1.5m wide painted strip.

Klazu · #**3795** Posted **Feb 2, 2016, 9:50 PM**

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I really like the design on Richards whereby parked cars separate cyclists from traffic.

Yeah, that should be the new standard everywhere they paint new bike lanes. It is fantastic although one has to look out for car doors opening.

WarrenC12 · #**3796** Posted **Feb 2, 2016, 10:21 PM**

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Yeah, that should be the new standard everywhere they paint new bike lanes. It is fantastic although one has to look out for car doors opening.

Well you risk being doored on regular lanes too, but your option is to ride out into traffic instead of the sidewalk.

officedweller · #**3797** Posted **Feb 3, 2016, 11:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

What's the benefit of such small barriers? A runaway car will easily cross those, but it does prevent parking on bike lanes (which really isn't any problem in Vancouver).

It would still cause drivers to be more cautious and not cut curves and enter the bike lane (i.e. non-runaway vehicles)

Jebby · #**3798** Posted **Feb 4, 2016, 12:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

What's the benefit of such small barriers? A runaway car will easily cross those, but it does prevent parking on bike lanes (which really isn't any problem in Vancouver).

Really safe separated bike lanes are like Dunmuir, Hornby and Burrard Bridge, to name a few.

A run-away car could still smash through the barriers on Dunsmuir, especially a big pickup or full-sized SUV.

These barriers serve the function of keeping a driver's attention on the fact that there is a bike lane more than anything. The worst thing about cycling on a non-protected bike lane is that cars get really close to you. This gives you at least half a meter separation from even the closest driving cars. It makes cycling feel a lot safer for many people who would otherwise not want to bike on the street.

officedweller · #**3799** Posted **Feb 4, 2016, 12:30 AM**

Price Tags has pics of the Stanley Park Causeway renos:

https://pricetags.wordpress.com/2016/02/02/new-railing-and-bike-path-on-causeway/

Image: Graeme Jones
https://pricetags.wordpress.com/2016/02/02/new-railing-and-bike-path-on-causeway/

Image: Antje Wahl
https://pricetags.wordpress.com/2016/02/02/new-railing-and-bike-path-on-causeway/

Porfiry · #**3800** Posted **Feb 4, 2016, 12:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

Why doesn't Vancouver have lane separators like this for bike lanes, especially on busier streets and downtown? I've only ever seen properly segregated bike lanes on Dunsmuir.

If you clip one of those with your front wheel, you're likely crashing. A continuous barrier or none at all is probably safer.